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Originally Posted by happyhippiemama
ITA. But I don't declare myself to be lesbian. I am actually in agreement with Kincaid in regards to some of the siggies. My novel of a post was based on the evolution of the thread, not the OP per se.
What I take issue with is the idea that if I end up with a woman, I automatically "turn into" a lesbian, or if I'm with a man, I'm not allowed to consider myself queer, or to live my life with my family as a queer family.
Hope that clears some things up.
Originally Posted by happyhippiemama
Okay, I'm going to alter something I just said. Maybe I am bi because of who I have sex with. But I am QUEER because of the lifestyle I lead, and I will lead that lifestyle regardless of who I am committed to. I am an activist, I am involved, queer rights are important to me and thus to my loved ones. I do not buy into much of what is considered traditional in regards to relationships.
Originally Posted by lasiuslightning
I dont know if this was mentioned at all...
From what I've read people here seem to think it's cut and dry.
If you are a woman and are WITH a woman, you are lesbian.
If you are a man and are WITH a man, you are gay.
If you are a man (or woman) with a person of the opposite sex as you, you are heterosexual.
It is NOT that cut and dry!!
What about the women out there who feel more than anything that they ARE men? That firmly believe they should have been born a man and they like women but are grossly OFFENDED when they are called lesbian? They prefer to be called GAY. (I use this as an example because my daughter's godFATHER is a born female but is a man in soul, nature, and mind and HATES it when he is reffered to as a lesbian, female, or anything else in that way)
What if... that signature "I'm a lesbian and my husband is too!!" IS TRUE? I know that my DD's Godfather has always reffered to herself as a HUSBAND and a FATHER.
What about those who've had sex changes? Was a woman, is now a man... and is married to a woman and calls themselves a husband?
And the bisexuals? Male or female, all the bisexuals have half their rights taken from them if they chose to be with someone the same sex as them. Dont say it's any easier for them. If anything, it's as heartwrenching as it is for a gay couple.
Example: Jane is bisexual. She loves both Jim and Jill. She legally marries Jim, while still loving Jill. All the heartache of being unable to legally be recognized with Jill. All the pain and sorrow of knowing that they can never "be together" in the eyes of the law.... while society looks at Jane as a straight well put together housewife and mother. No one will ever fully understand the pain and heartache that could be within her soul.
It isnt easier for ANYONE. Not even the heterosexuals. Their problems might be DIFFERENT, but by no means is it easier.
I didn't read the whole thread so if this was covered, I'm sorry.
I've been out of commision for awhile...
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