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With #4 we had a UC and tried to drain the pool with the Python system...it did not work in the slightest. Dh had to bail it out bucket by bucket. I would like a pump of some sort that actually works this time. Anyone know a semi-affordable system that works?

We could drain it downhill out the back door, but it would all drain into where the kids toys are and we have no fence and very nosy neighbors who would have a heart attack seeing all of that bloody water run into their yard, as well.

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If you can somehow get the tube ending to be below the water level, you can just suck on it to start it (potentially a little gross - DH cheerfully did it here!). We drained it into the bathtub, on the same floor as the birth tub - so it was pretty much level with the very bottom of the birth tub, which meant he had to do some bailing, but only at the very end.

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Well, our house is sort of...lopsided (old house with settling) so it'd have to go uphill a bit to actually get to the bathtubs. And I just realized that draining it outside...it will be November and possibly very frozen and cold. We'd be lucky not to have a blood ice rink out there.

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Welll... with all the water, the ice rink would probably end up pink. So you could pretend you purposefully dyed it to create a Pink Rink.

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I picked up a submersible sump pump just a few months ago on ebay for about $20 including the shipping. Since you have some time until the birth, you could just try to find a bargain that way. You could either sell it after the birth or you could keep it around incase of basement flooding.

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Erika, do you have any links to the pump you got or a similar one?

We looked for a pump for our last birth (after siphoning with the one before that), and never found one that we were sure would work that wasn't $50 or more. So, we siphoned again (my MWs have been good about getting that started for us), and then my DH took the liner with the remaining water out and dumped it in the yard (which was a little, um, gory for a while, but I'm pretty sure the grass is still growing well! ). I imagine we'll do the same if we don't find a reasonably priced pump that we're sure will work!

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I wish we had thought of how we were going to drain the birth tub. I ended up having some complications after the birth. Everything turned out fine but when I need dh with me, he was bucketing out bloody water so ds wouldn't see it. Smart for thinking of this before hand!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Craftsman-1-4hp-...item41519dad65

It was just something like this one. I have a bigger one that I love more, but I have 2 complete birth pool sets that I lend out to clients, so I had to pick up a 2nd pump. If you just search for "submersible utility pump" you will find many to choose from for pretty low prices. All you have to do is hook it up to your hose, drop it in the water, and then plug it in and walk away for awhile. THen drop it in a bucket of bleach water to clean it out before packing it away or selling it off.

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With #4 we had a UC and tried to drain the pool with the Python system...it did not work in the slightest. Dh had to bail it out bucket by bucket. I would like a pump of some sort that actually works this time. Anyone know a semi-affordable system that works?
Do you know what the problem was w/ the Python? I've used the same system for 3 births now, and never really had a problem, other then it couldn't get the last little bit, but that was easy to take care of.

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Welll... with all the water, the ice rink would probably end up pink. So you could pretend you purposefully dyed it to create a Pink Rink.



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I picked up a submersible sump pump just a few months ago on ebay for about $20 including the shipping. Since you have some time until the birth, you could just try to find a bargain that way. You could either sell it after the birth or you could keep it around incase of basement flooding.
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Do you know what the problem was w/ the Python? I've used the same system for 3 births now, and never really had a problem, other then it couldn't get the last little bit, but that was easy to take care of.
It just didn't work. I don't know if it was water pressure or what, but it just was not working for us. I had just had a pph so I left dh up to it, but even when I had tried pre-birth it wasn't working.

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To drain w/ the Python:

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Turn on the faucet. The water flowing through the pump will generate a suction that you will be able to feel at the end of the gravel tube. If you do not feel a vacuum at the end of the gravel tube, verify that the on/off valve is switched to the on position. The valve will be labeled to indicate which position is on and which is off.

Read more: How to Use a Python Siphon | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6396193_use-...#ixzz0vV0v294c
On my practice run. I didn't realize I needed the faucet running really hard to create the suction.

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We followed the instructions and tried a bunch of times. Our water pressure there (and here) is just really not very strong, so I'm assuming that is why it was barely negligibly working. My sdad had a huge turtle tank and he used a similar apparatus for years to drain it, so I had a good idea of what to do. I've heard similar complaints from other people, too. It either works with your system or doesn't. I definitely am not going to waste money on it again knowing my water pressure isn't that good.

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I'm sorry it doesn't work for your house. If I were on your shoes I wouldn't buy it to have it fail again, too. I think your best bet would be the submersible sump pump.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Craftsman-1-4hp-...item41519dad65

It was just something like this one. I have a bigger one that I love more, but I have 2 complete birth pool sets that I lend out to clients, so I had to pick up a 2nd pump. If you just search for "submersible utility pump" you will find many to choose from for pretty low prices. All you have to do is hook it up to your hose, drop it in the water, and then plug it in and walk away for awhile. THen drop it in a bucket of bleach water to clean it out before packing it away or selling it off.
Thanks, Erika!

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With the price of pumps, it's tempting to try the Python again! But I know it won't work here with our water pressure.

Has anyone tried this pump? I'm trying to find an affordable one. What else would I need with this?

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I just posted a new post about this one:
http://www.yourwaterbirth.com/water-...ump-p-867.html

It is only $12.50!?
Wondering if anyone has used it? It attaches to an electric drill for power, and drains 360 gallons per hour. I figure it would only take about 20 min to drain the fishy pool of about 100 gallons, which isn't too bad. but I'm new to this too...and stalking this thread for answers.

Seriously- researching birthing pools has made me not even want to bother with setting one up....but I'm sure I'll want it when labor kicks in!

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Well, hopefully you are going the month before me and I can see if it works for you! That looks too good to be true! I wonder how the drill connects?

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Trying to find reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/Drill-Powered-.../dp/B000H5VJAS

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K, we did a trial run of the fishy pool tonight. Python worked great for filling. However, do you really have to leave the water just running down the drain the entire time it's draining? It's been 15 minutes already, and that makes it look like it's going to take about an hour. An hour of water is going to be astronomical! We tried turning off the water, but the flow stops... I think we'll HAVE to get a pump if that's the case.

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Yeah- doesn't look like that one would be the greatest for draining an entire pool of water. Not enough power maybe...

Good news on my end- checked in with my midwife before purchasing and she said she'd just let us use her pump that she rents out with the aquadoula when her clients rent it. So...ask your midwife before getting a pump that you're going to use a few times and then be done with!

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gabbyraja-Yes, it has to stay running the whole time. Our water prices are fairly high here, IMO, so to me that is another major detractor for the Python.

laurabfig-my mw rents pools but NOT the pumps and does not do any of that, so I have to find my own.

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I really like having a submersible utility pump... just hook the hose to it, put the other end of the hose in a bathtub, toilet or out a window, stick the pump into the water and plug 'er in.

My poor hubby had to dump with a bucket for my homebirths...
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Ok, I think I've narrowed it down. Has anyone used any of these?

Simer 2305 Geyser II 1/4 HP Submersible Utility Pump

Wayne RUP160 1/6-Horsepower 3,000 GPH Oilless Submersible Utility Water Pump

Beckett 7062410 DP400 Pump for Ponds and Fountains

Now to pick one and figure out just how in the world to run one of these crazy contraptions. They look complicated.

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Ok, I think I've narrowed it down. Has anyone used any of these?

Simer 2305 Geyser II 1/4 HP Submersible Utility Pump

Wayne RUP160 1/6-Horsepower 3,000 GPH Oilless Submersible Utility Water Pump

Beckett 7062410 DP400 Pump for Ponds and Fountains

Now to pick one and figure out just how in the world to run one of these crazy contraptions. They look complicated.
The first two look a lot like the one I bought from Menard's which is going strong after being used several times.
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I am going to order my birth pool liner from Cascade and found this pump there:
http://www.1cascade.com/ProductInfo....roductID=04568

Anyone used it? I think we'll try it but I'd love to hear if anyone has experience with it.

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Welll... with all the water, the ice rink would probably end up pink. So you could pretend you purposefully dyed it to create a Pink Rink.
Love that!

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I am glad to find this thread. I am considering a waterbirth, but had no idea how to deal with emptying the pool (besides a bucket, or siphoning).

I'm going to ask my midwife if she rents out a submersible pump.

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I bought the Wayne one I linked to above. I have not used it yet and can't find a 3/4" hose. Go figure!

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I bought the Wayne one I linked to above. I have not used it yet and can't find a 3/4" hose. Go figure!
I found tons of drinking-water-safe hoses on Amazon (I was shocked!) and just did a search for 3/4". Here are the results:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...-free+&x=0&y=0

Hope that helps! They are more expensive than what I got (about $30 for 50ft) but if you can do everything with one, hopefully it's worth it!

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I really like having a submersible utility pump... just hook the hose to it, put the other end of the hose in a bathtub, toilet or out a window, stick the pump into the water and plug 'er in.
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That's what we did. We had basement flooding last spring and happened to have several submersible pumps laying around so we used one, it drained in minutes.

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