When I was researching homebirths and reading a lot of birth stories I remember being struck by all the BIG babies born at home. Really... most of them were well over 8lbs... and many were 10, 11 or even 12 lbs!
Happens all of the time.
Frank Sinatra was born at home in 1917 and he was fifteen pounds; he was delivered by a midwife who put him under cold water to get him breathing. He and his mother lived a very long time after his birth as you may already know.
Later in life, his mother developed diabetes which was a contributing factor to her death (in a plane crash?!) He was also an only child, an anomaly in Catholic Italian families at the time.
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DS#2 was 9#10 oz. and born at home. No complications and no significant tearing (skid marks, but no stitches needed). And I was up and around in half the time at home.
"Big" baby is one of the more idiotic reasons given for c/s.
He had true shoulder dystocia, and then his chest got stuck, so I am grateful that I had a skilled midwife! She used some of Ina May Gaskin's methods and ds and I were both fine.
My other two sons were 10.5 pounds each, born very easily with not even a tear.
Thats funny........I just delivered a 9lb 4oz baby at home last week!!!!!
So.......uhm........yeah, it's possible. :-)
Both my kids were over 9lbs and I'll tell ya, I don't have anything smaller to compare it to, but I had no issues and pushing em out wasn't hard for me. I assume I could handle an even bigger baby. My midwives also felt like maybe my son that I just had might be over 10lbs and they weren't really concerned with that, either.
It is VERY VERY rare to have a baby not fit through the pelvis. You're more likely to have a car accident on the way to the hospital. Seriously.
That said, last year in my practice there was a 13lb 6oz baby, a 13lb baby and an 11lb 9oz baby - all born at home.
First off, let me say that SHE was delivered by c/s because after x-rays the dr decided that mother in law had cpd and would not be able to deliver vaginally (ended up having 4 c/s). Sister in law is built JUST like her mom, and has a dh with a much bigger head than my father in law! Both sil and mil are about 5' 3" and 115 pounds. They don't have spreading hips (unlike me! I look like I was born to have babies, hmm, that's what dh thought too )
So, her first was a nine pound boy born in a military hospital and they cut her CERVIX to get him out! Idiots! Sixteen years later and she still has unresolved issues from that one.
Four years later, next babe was a 8+ pound girl born at her midwife's house.
Two years later, next babe was a 10 pound 8 ounce boy delivered at home in under 5 hours. I have to say she was a little sore after that one.
Seven years later, next babe was a 9 pound 12 ounce boy delivered at our house in less than 3 hours.
Now she's done. But I say that there is NO WAY that my mother in law had cpd, and that big babies can definitely be delivered at home, to almost any woman.
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My third was 9'8" and born at home with only a tiny tear (even with previous scar tissue. (thankfully he was 10 days early)
However, presentation and the way the mother is coping as well as the baby's stress levels make a difference too. maybe the c-section saved a life (although there certainly are WAY too MANY bad rumors about big babies out there!)
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Congratulations on your new baby boy Anothermama! That is so wonderful!
ds1: 8lbs. 15oz. C-Section
ds2: 8lbs. 4oz. medicated VBAC with episiotomy to "help him out"
ds3: 9lbs. 14oz. homebirth--NO TEARS
So, my biggest baby was born at home Yep, it can be done
So, yes, it's definitely possible.
#2 - 39 wk induction(cervadil) for risk of pre-e, only a 5 hour intense labor, pushed my shorter, fatter 8# 8oz son out in a bout five minutes, side laying. 2dg. tear with stitches. I wanted to jump up and run a marathon!
#3 - about 39 wks, 12 hour "hard" labor (after laboring all day) pushed my ten lb boy out at home all by myself (as planned) in about five minutes. Just a skid mark that healed itself in a few days.
Yeah, I agree they tend to feel pretty much the same, it's those heads you gotta deal with, the rest is just squishy fat
I'm sure there's more that happened to your friend but all the Dr's are saying is that the baby was "too big". I'm sorry your friend wanted a hb and wound up with a c/s.
She 9.6 ounces,20.25 inches,and head was 13.5 around.
So glad I had her at home UC.
My son was also born at home and was 9.8 ounces,21 inches,and head 14 in. around
Both of mine were born weighing over 8 1/2 pounds.
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Another friend of mine had a c-section last Friday on her due date. A repeat c-section. This baby was 10lb 14oz and 23 inches long. Big guy all over I guess! It was a planned cesarean as the OB (my former OB BTW) kept reminding her of the 1% chance that her uterus could rupture during labor if she went for a VBAC.
Both my babies were "small"- first induced at 6lb 2oz at 38 weeks and second born the day before his due date at 7lb 7oz. The bigger one was easier to get out, but I was pushing in a totally different position and had given birth before. I was comfier at home, that's for sure!
My 9 pounder flew out like a rocket. Took my poor hips a while to get back to their appropriate position! No tears with either.....
On the bright side of those big shoulders.....his little brother came zooming out, 7cm to birth in 10 minutes! compared to his bigger older brother, he felt like a placenta!
I think that part of the problem with "That baby is huge..you are going to need a c-section" is that it sets up the mom, her partner, the nurses and the doctor for the possibility as if it were inevitable.
For example: My nephew was born in our local hospital (8lbs 10 oz) by c-section. I was standing in the birth-center lobby waiting for my sister-in-law to get her epidural prior to her c-section. I was standing next to my father-in-law (I was 7 months pregnant at the time and planning a homebirth) and my SIL's Dr. was filling out paper-work behind the counter.
My FIL looked at me and said "Well, you are going to have to break that c-section curse when you have your baby". (His prior other grandchildren had also been born via c-section). My SIL's Dr. looked up, looked at my pregnant belly and said "Don't count on it...all those boys in that family (meaning my DH's) have huge heads." and went back to filling out paperwork.
I was both furious and scared. This was my first baby and this man who was not my Dr. had just said that he predicted a c-section for me. Well, after much reassurance by my MW I had my great big baby with his great big head at home and I sent the Dr. a birth announcement with all the stats of DS's size on it in bold letters . Sheesh...
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