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Did anyone see him on Leno last night? He talked a long time about how his partner had just had a baby and how she had her at home. It was so cool because he went into detail about how she was sitting up using gravity and such so her sacrum could open which just can't happen in a hospital flat on your back. You could tell he was totally into it and well read. It was neat.

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I think that may do more to harm the cause than good! That dude is totally nuts!

Mom of a 7 yr old, 4 yr old, and 1 yr old. Wow. How did that happen?
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That's what I was thinking. Alas...
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I think that may do more to harm the cause than good! That dude is totally nuts!

Sorry - gotta comment here. Jsut because the man is an alcoholic and may have soem mental health issues doe not mean that he isnt' well read and informed on some issues.

I'm a mental health patient, and I've had issues - many many peopel think I'm a basket case and have judged me negatively for it. Doesnt' mean I'm incapable of making an informed choice about how and where I want to birth.
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Darn. I was watching Leno last night but turned it off just before he came on. I'm thrilled to hear he was talking about homebirth! The man just went up a notch in my eyes! Lots of people have substance abuse problems. Perhaps witnessing this wonderful birth will help him to heal.
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I dunno, the guy seemed totally sane last night. Especially compared to Carrot Top who came on next lol. Plus it was very obvious he knew his stuff regarding birth. It was neat. He was also talking about what a miracle his little baby is and how powerful and energizing the room is during a birth. He just sounded like a really excited dad to me.

The only weird thing is he said he got into the birth tub totally naked lol. Not an image I wanted in my head haha.

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My husband was naked in the tub for my homebirth.

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My husband was naked in the tub for my homebirth.

For your UC or your mw attended birth? I think it is totally normal or acceptable or whatever to be in the tub naked but I do think it's a little odd for the partner to strip down naked in front of the midwives. Nick Nolte said there were 3 midwives in attendance of the birth.

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Sorry - gotta comment here. Jsut because the man is an alcoholic and may have soem mental health issues doe not mean that he isnt' well read and informed on some issues.
true but public perception is that he is crazy (have you seen some of his recent interviews?) and it does the HB movement no good to have that sort of advocate. people already assume we are nuts and/or irresponsible for HBing, having Nick Nolte promote it perpetuates that myth


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ah well...

because homebirth is an option that everyone should have, we can't get picky and criticize those who do it when we decide they don't have the right image.
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Darn. I was watching Leno last night but turned it off just before he came on. I'm thrilled to hear he was talking about homebirth! The man just went up a notch in my eyes! Lots of people have substance abuse problems. Perhaps witnessing this wonderful birth will help him to heal.
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I just watched the clip on NBC.com, you can select a chapter of the show, instead of watching all of it. He was so stoked! That was really neat to see. I remember the high my husband was on in the days and weeks after our son was born, it was so sweet!
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I was *so* upset I missed this. I heard "Carrot Top and Nick Nolte were up next and I and bolted for bed for the night LOL!

The next morning when I got up, I found an email left by my husband detailing how lucid and in depth Mr Nolte seemed when he discussed the awesome experience he and his partner had with their homebirth.

I had the same knee jerk reaction that maybe this isn't the best person to be a homebirth spokesperson but really that is just judgmental on my part and not such a good thing for me to decide. He and his partner gave this baby a wonderful and peaceful beginning start to life and he was just as excited as any homebirth dad.

Way to go, Nick Nolte!

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on w/Jay Leno. It's an online tape of the whole show. I don't know how to get only Mr Nolte.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_...episodes.shtml
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Okay, I read this thread and I was thinking this was GARY BUSEY. I always get him and Nick Nolte confused. Not until I watched it did I realize who he was. I am so happy it's him and NOT Gary Busey because man that guy IS out of it. So i looked it up on NBC.com like Hippiwannabe suggested and it was great! Jay Leno didn't even ask him any stupid questions like "isn't that dangerous" or anything.

I will say, however that my husband watched it too and asked "Is he drunk?" about halfway though. I really couldn't tell.

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ah well...

because homebirth is an option that everyone should have, we can't get picky and criticize those who do it when we decide they don't have the right image.
I agree.

I think we put too much emphasis on celebrities and what they do. They are perfect strangers after all. We have no idea who they really are, just what the press lead us to believe. And if all our lives were put under such intense scrutiny, we probably all would not make such great home birth role models! We have all messed up or done something ridiculous at some or other point. We all journeyed to home birth a different route.

"Okay, I read this thread and I was thinking this was GARY BUSEY. I always get him and Nick Nolte confused."

Me too!!

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"some of the midwives were very knowledgeable, one was kind of spacey"... um, no, not a rousing endorsement.
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Nashvillemidwife, he went on to say some very kind things. Did you not think so? To me, I thought maybe his definition of spacey was more that she was very in tune with the birth process and able to allow mother to work in the way she was most comfortable. He said that she didn't keep watching her clock, she gave lots of time for the miracle of birth rather than "gotta get this done, gotta get to the golf course" LOL! I think that whole statement was more a slam on OBs

I can see your point though.. Spacey was not the best word to use but I guess he was speaking from his heart more than an educated birth advocate might speak from his/her heart *and* head knowing how important it all really is.

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Nolte's mental status aside, I thought it was a nice interview. And at the very least perhaps it will get at least one person to realize there are options in childbirth.

I thought it was cute how tickled Leno was at the mention of the tub being in the bedroom and filled up with water from a hose. lol
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whether or not we should care about celebrity lives and choices we live in a culture in the united states anyways, that cares a lot about celebrities. and hopefully the more puiblicity homebirth gets the more folks will consider it for themselves or at least not judge it as crazy for other people to do.
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But it's hard to not judge it as crazy when the people who are endorsing it seem to be crazy. That just feed the myths and stereotypes. We live in a culture that not only cares a lot about what the celebrities are doing, but relishes judging them for it.
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With all my real life friends and family though no one really follows any of this celeb stuff and I'm the "black sheep" of the family. All my friends and family are mainstream and they all pay about as much attention to celeb things as me: I read the headlines in the line at the grocery store, I don't even pick up the mag so many times I can only read half the headline. I had no idea Nick Nolte was considered "crazy." I remember that funny mug shot of his from years and years ago but it seems every celeb has a mug shot. To me, he's just this actor who's been in a bunch of movies I liked long ago. :

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Not only is he considered "crazy", but he did indeed seem to be impaired during his Leno appearance.

I want to make it very clear that I am not judging the man, but acknowledging that we live in a culture where celebrities (and regular folk) are indeed judged eagerly and harshly by the general public. If you don't believe me, check out the archives on this very board for speculation, discussion, and judgment about Angelina Jolie's decision not to VBAC her twins (and contrast it with the general public's disapproval of her choice to eschew "the best" in American health care and have her first baby in a third world country).
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I thought is was a really good interview. He explained things in a way that most people could understand. And with such enthusiasm.
We as HB advocates pick apart and critique these interviews. We want them to say all the "right" things. But what he was saying was coming from his heart. He said he didn't even want to leave the room for like a month! That's one, in love daddy!

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ah well...

because homebirth is an option that everyone should have, we can't get picky and criticize those who do it when we decide they don't have the right image.
ITA.
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I remember that funny mug shot of his from years and years ago but it seems every celeb has a mug shot. To me, he's just this actor who's been in a bunch of movies I liked long ago. :
I went and did quick search - and it does seem like almost every familiar name has a mug shot. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html
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No one here is criticizing the man because his partner had a home birth! Quite the contrary. We're simply lamenting that it's unfortunate he's not the most respectable of spokesmen for the cause.
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Who, in your eyes, would be respectable?

Cindy Crawford, Kenny Loggins' wife, Graham Nash's wife, Pamela Anderson, Kelly *******, Carole King, Joyce Maynard all had home births. One of Pat Boone's daughters was delivered by my midwife (no, not Debbie). The list can go on (there is an old thread about this). Are they respectable? I am just happy for them.

What matters to me is that I had 4 home births and they were successful. I am glad I made the choice and it worked out well for me. I did not need a spokesman. I would wish the same for any other woman so motivated.

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Who, in your eyes, would be respectable?

Cindy Crawford, Kenny Loggins' wife, Graham Nash's wife, Pamela Anderson, Kelly *******, Carole King, Joyce Maynard all had home births. One of Pat Boone's daughters was delivered by my midwife (no, not Debbie). The list can go on (there is an old thread about this). Are they respectable? I am just happy for them.

What matters to me is that I had 4 home births and they were successful. I am glad I made the choice and it worked out well for me. I did not need a spokesman. I would wish the same for any other woman so motivated.

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