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#31 of 39 Old 09-04-2008, 07:22 PM
 
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Hugs to you mama! Congrats on the new babe-to-be.

Find a supportive care provider, ask as many questions as you can irl and here, and trust yourself... from your story it sounds like there is no reason for you to have a surgical birth.

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Thanks again all!
I had an appt with my mid wife tonight and I think I will look into other options/seek a second opinion.
She told me that I have to talk more and negotiate with the OBs about what they are comforatable allowing me to do.
She also said that her gut told her that there was some reason that my son didn't fit...so it is her gut instinct telling her that I am not a good candidate for VBAC.
She also mentioned that she has seen 4 uterine ruptures and I have to bring up the risks associated with a c/s.
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Sounds like your HCP had a case of failure to wait....

I too had an induction that led to a section...and was told I was not a good candidate for a vbac...of course that was by the doc who performed the section...


I found a supportive loving wonderful hcp, I read, I went to a therapist, I meditated, I labored and I pushed my baby girl out of my vagina...It was the very best day of my life

I encourage you to listen to your intuition and to get clear about what you want and then find the right birth team to make it happen

sending light and congrats on your new wee one
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She also mentioned that she has seen 4 uterine ruptures and I have to bring up the risks associated with a c/s.
No way. Isn't the risk of uterine rupture (even with a previous c/s) less than 1%? How long has she been practicing, or how many babies has she delivered, that she has seen 4 ruptures?!

Also, why do you have to debate it with the OB's? Isn't the midwife your care provider? : I would definitely see if you can find someone else.

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Four uterine rupture rings warning bells for me too! Though she may be refering to a decade or so ago when inducing vbac mamas was more common... the UR rates were through the roof (relatively speaking) when mamas had classic incisions and induced vbacs.

If she has had that sort of experience I don't blame her for being very hesitant... but it's also not a health attitude in today's birth climate, and not an attitude she needs to be putting onto vbac mamas. She may do better (for herself as well as for the women she attends) if she only attends very low risk mamas until she regains her own confidence in birth.

Hugs to you, and happy birthing!

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I just wrote this is another thread, but there are only 4 reasons for a c/s on the papers they use here. I was marked at FTP despite getting to 10 and pushing for 1.5 hrs. Like someone else mentioned, my baby was asynclitic and was not moving, even w/ some forcep help. I went on to have 2 VBACs, the first one was 18 mos after my c/s. I've planning on VBAC #3 in Jan/Feb w/ the same OB who did my c/s. I was even induced w/ my last VBAC, but my body was much more ready to go. I had a forced induction w/ my oldest, as in I was only like 1cm and he was still -3 station, nowhere ready to come out. W/ Ilana I was 4cm, 0 station I think, and was contracting on my own, it was an entirely different process!

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I have 3 quotes for you

"Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done and why. Then do it."
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"Of course the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you - if you don't play, you can't win."
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Side note I love these 2 quotes!!! I'm going to keep them in mind now with my VBAC pursuit!!

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Thanks again all!
I had an appt with my mid wife tonight and I think I will look into other options/seek a second opinion.
She told me that I have to talk more and negotiate with the OBs about what they are comforatable allowing me to do.
She also said that her gut told her that there was some reason that my son didn't fit...so it is her gut instinct telling her that I am not a good candidate for VBAC.
She also mentioned that she has seen 4 uterine ruptures and I have to bring up the risks associated with a c/s.
*sad sigh* I hate hearing this from a midwife. My midwife fed me the same lines. The fact is that she really doesn't know whether your baby would have fit b/c you didn't push.

My midwife said the ob "checked" my pelvis during surgery and said I had an oval shaped pelvis and a thick sacrum which would never allow the passage of a baby. The 2 other midwives said I could have a trial of labor but I couldn't labor as long, I needed to wait a year to get pg again and I had to go into spontaneous labor by 41 weeks.

My one midwife has seen 2 UR. One was in a mom who NEVER had a c-section or uterine surgery. The other was in a vbac attempt when mom got pg withing a year of her c-s.

Ask your midwife if the URs were all in VBAC attempts and whether pitocin or labor induction agents were used. That will increase your risk of UR.

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Thanks again all!
I had an appt with my mid wife tonight and I think I will look into other options/seek a second opinion.
She told me that I have to talk more and negotiate with the OBs about what they are comforatable allowing me to do.
She also said that her gut told her that there was some reason that my son didn't fit...so it is her gut instinct telling her that I am not a good candidate for VBAC.
She also mentioned that she has seen 4 uterine ruptures and I have to bring up the risks associated with a c/s.
She said that your son "didn't fit"? Didn't fit where? You weren't fully dilated! There was no fitting or not fitting, you weren't ready to push. Even if you ignore the fact that the labor wasn't something you and baby created, she's missing something big in there, to say something like that.

I'd run screaming from someone who had seen 4 ruptures....I don't want that person touching me!
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