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#31 of 42 Old 02-28-2004, 01:45 PM
 
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"I think he was just reading off a list of questions and not thinking...."

Gotta love that in a doctor...
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Well, nobody's perfect.
I really don't think the eyeroll was necessary. I doubt anyone would make the argument that smoking is good for one's health, and I *do* find it quite perplexing that someone who seems so concerned with eating well would destroy her lungs, skin, teeth, etc. by smoking. She'd be much better off eating junk food and not smoking.

Of course no one is perfect -- that wasn't my point. My point was that smoking (IMO) is disgusting, and I think any positive image Gwyneth projects based on her eating habits is damaged by the fact that she smoked.
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QUOTE/ It is beyond me why someone who goes to such great lengths to eat healthfully would destroy her body by smoking. /QUOTE/

um... maybe because it's addictive?

i also only quit smoking when i got pregnant and i still fantasize about it several times everyday. IT'S HARD.
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I used to smoke also. Yes, it is addictive, and yes, it is hard to stop, but that doesn't change the fact that it is disgusting and deadly.

The hypocrisy on these boards is almost worse than that in the political parties. It's OK to say horrible things about formula feeding moms or those who choose medicated births or even -- gasp -- c-sections, but God forbid I say smoking is harmful to one's health, or express disbelief that a person apparently very concerned with eating healthfully would choose to ruin her body by smoking.

Whatever. :
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Not to totally hijack this thread with the smoking debate (apologies to the OP), but my point wasn't to say it was OK. Of course it's unhealthy, and I too think it's disgusting. I just don't think that her otherwise healthful ways are "damaged" by the fact that she has been a smoker. that was my point.

(and for the record, I personally don't say horrible things about formula feeding, medicated births, etc.)

OK, back to your regularly scheduled thread!

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"i also only quit smoking when i got pregnant and i still fantasize about it several times everyday. IT'S HARD."

It is VERY hard, and who knows, maybe she has been trying to quit for a long time, and the pregnancy hormones and her concern for her baby were what finally helped her succeed. And it's fantastic when any mother is able to overcome her harmful desires in order to protect her children. Good for her.

In any case, I don't really get why her smoking makes her eating healthy somehow not a great thing. Eating healthy is far better than not, whether or not you smoke. In fact, if you are addicted to nicotine, it makes total sense to counteract its harmful effects on your body by otherwise keeping your body as healthy as possible. Eating badly is not going to help matters, and is certainly not going to help you quit.
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of course it's disgusting and deadly. never said it wasn't. you said you couldn't understand why she was smoking. i don;t find it hard to understand at all, so i offered an explanation. see, nicotine is seriously chemically addictive, and cool ranch doritos are not. altho they are yummy.

btw, i don;t think it's helpful to make judgmental comments about ff'ing or med-birth or c-sec moms either.
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"It's OK to say horrible things about formula feeding moms or those who choose medicated births or even -- gasp -- c-sections, but God forbid I say smoking is harmful to one's health,"

Uh, did anybody say it isn't? Of course it is.

(And why a sarcastic gasp for those who would criticize elective cesarean?)
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I believe I read an article that said she quit years ago when she first started yoga practice and macrobiotics. Then she started in the past couple years when her father got sick and died.

Smoking is so addicting.
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I'm not a huge Gwyneth fan but man oh man do I dream of the day when homebirth actually does become trendy. I'll take normalizing it any way I can get it.

Amy: Certified Professional Midwife and mom to Max (11) and Stella (6).
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speaking of celeb homebirths, here's normalizing for the underground hiphop heads:

-- from "joy" by talib kweli --

(from first verse: )
We got home at three in the morning, I was beat
them contractions started coming as soon as I fell asleep
3:05, like every five minutes, then the water broke
we on the go, yelling at the cabbie, cause he's sort of slow
You know them hospitals all trying to get paid, no questions
here come the doctors with they drugs, trying to do c-sections
But my baby stays strong, in labor for way long
eight-pound baby boy, to carry my name on, joy!

(from second verse: )
June 10th, 1999, I been on the grind
since the birth of my son, it's been about way more then rhymes
Baby on the way, my lady glowing today, at least
that's what the midwife say, on the phone
Anyway, the music got me going away
Like everyday, but it's a blessing, so I gotta have patience
and she got pregnant on a Jamaican vacation
So it's all good, this time we'll have the baby in the house
I went the hospital route, I know what they all about (Never again)
So I'm out on tour, in Baltimore
get the call around four, when the water hit the floor (Damn!)
I gotta rock my show, but I gotta go
got second thoughts about her not going to the hospital
I left the show early, Mos held me down, good looking (No doubt)
call the car service, like, take me straight to Brooklyn (Uh huh)
Got the news in the car, stayed sorta calm
but I cried tears of joy, when they put my daughter in my arms, how precious!
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brooklynmom - I ADORE Talib Kweli, and this song is one of my favorites... it's great exposure for alternative births, as well as a touching account of a father's birth experience.

Now if only this type of hiphop would become more "normal". It's a shame that such positive music is often shuffled aside in favor of more "profitable" nonsense-spewing music. Actually, it's no wonder he see's the profit-centric nature of hospitals so clearly... the music industry is very much the same.

-Megan
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