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A couple I know are expecting their first son at the beginning of May. Today the father commented that the OB told them the baby would be about 4 weeks early.
Here's me: uhhhhhhhhhh what?
He says that the doctor told them that the baby is very low and that means it will be early. And that he thought it would be great to have the baby early because they are ready to meet him.
I just said that there is no way to know when a baby will arrive, and that it's best to keep them in longer than 36 weeks, even though you're excited to meet them. And I also told him that I have friends who walked around at 3-4 cm for several weeks before their births. Just to give him something to chew on. :LOL

But what kind of doctor thinks that?????
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A former homebirth mw now CNM in my community actually moved BACK a due date for a first time mom because the baby was low. This was a mom who charted her cycles and knew when she conceived.

So, the due date was forced back two weeks and guess what? Mom went nearly two weeks over with a threat of induction the next day. Geez.


Edited to add that I've been GUILTY of saying "probably soon" with clients. Boy, do I live to regret that EVERY TIME. I think I'm learning.
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The same kind of doctor who look at the ultrasound and says "we need to induce/do a c-section because this baby is too big", only to birth a 7 or 8 pounder.

Unfortunately, I've seen this scenario more times than I would hope for on that stupid Birth Day program.

My SIL's doctor told her that she had a rough delivery ahead of her because her baby was going to be so big. SIL walked around for weeks freaked out. Her dd (after a short labor, btw), was about 7lbs, 5oz.
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A lot of times I get the impression that particular doctors like to do inductions, so they start grooming women as early as they can.

They'll tell them at 34 weeks "well, if your labor starts 3 weeks from now, we won't do anything to stop it." And then at 36 wks "You're starting to efface, any day now" And at 37 wks "You're 1cm! this weekend, for sure!" By the time 38 wks rolls around they've got the mom all hyped up about how her baby is so big and her body is so dysfunctional...maybe the best thing to do would be to just cut the baby out now. I mean, they are anxious to meet her, right?

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mine was freaking me out over how he wouldn't do anything but two attempts at ECV and then an immediate induction if he had to do a second one. My good little boy decided to play games with the sOB and even the day after his ultrasound, sOB couldn't tell if he was breech or not.

sOB "wasn't comfortable" with a breech vaginal delivery - and I wasn't and still am not a primapara! He used quotes from "that breech study" (I asked if it was the hannah one and he denied it) and said he'd section me if my son was breech...

I almost wish he had been - his birth was so fast when I finally had my water break..

And he moved my due date from August to September for IUGR and refused to look at my charts, refused to believe I had taken clomid, refused to believe anything but the ultrasound that I hadn't wanted.

ARGH!

I won't even go into the mind games about being 32 weeks and having braxton hicks so strong it felt like early labour. There was nothing false about it. And no, they weren't going to stop it because they were a tertiary care hospital and their nicu handles 26 weekers and my 32 weeker would be fine (this was my LMP date that he was using at the time). Then the sOB changed my date, so I looked at him like he was an idiot - 32 weeks huh? that would have been 30 weeks by your dates!

Gawds. what an idiot with delusions of godhood.

If I never see him again it'll be too soon.
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The doctors did the same thing to my cousin!! She's about 100 pounds, very petite. They told her she'd probably need a caesarian. Her mom, who is every bit as petite, had vaginal births for both of her nearly 10 pound children, with no complications. She spoke up for herself, and ended up having a 3 hour labour, vaginal delivery, 2 days after she was 'due'.

When I was pregnant with DS, I wouldn't let myself even consider that he might be earlier than his due date. I convinced myself it would be February before the baby came. He was due January 22nd, and he came on the 9th! I was SHOCKED when my water broke. The up side: I was still enjoying being pregnant. The down side: I hadn't done ANY of the baby laundry yet!! Good thing newborn clothes are so little, I only had to do two loads. :LOL

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When I was pregnant with DS, I wouldn't let myself even consider that he might be earlier than his due date. I convinced myself it would be February before the baby came. He was due January 22nd, and he came on the 9th! I was SHOCKED when my water broke. The up side: I was still enjoying being pregnant. The down side: I hadn't done ANY of the baby laundry yet!! Good thing newborn clothes are so little, I only had to do two loads.
I haven't heard anyone else who had the same thing to say. In my head, DD was coming 10 days "late" just as everyone else in my family. Since DD was born 10 days before her due date, in my head, she came 20 days early. My mom had to wash all the clothes and "nest" for me. We just weren't ready!
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I've noiced that lately almost everyone I know is being handed the same kind of lines. I've even seen members of this community schedule cesarean surgery due to exposure to this bull. Sick that women are manipulated this way.

HomebirthHarriet, that's funny, mine was due on the 9th, born on the 22nd! Good thing I gave a LMP date to reflect a "due date" of the 14th! :LOL
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Yup, I'm doing paralell care with a homebirth midwife and a nurse practitioner. The 28 or 29 week ultrasound came back with a due date of April 22 and my NP has mentioned that several times. My mantra: "I co-sleep; I can count how many times I got lucky last summer on one hand, and I KNOW this baby was conceived August 15. Just because it is big doesn't mean it's ready to hatch!" It's due May 6 or 9 depending on who does the calculations from LMP and people are already asking in supermarket lines if I'm due any day or having twins. I'm trying hard not to use my cousin Anne Marie's stock response, "Uh, no, I'm just fat." LOL because I know better, but I feel for all the women who don't. I am fat, but I've only gained 24 pounds this pregnancy. All 24 pounds plus some from my hips is sticking right out in front like a baseball on steriods!

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I tell ya Drs dont know half the time what they are talking about.
Case in point, A girl we know of has a mother who is a nurse in our local small hospital. So according to the medical community she had cream of the crop in medical care including plenty of ultra sounds.

After this baby was born they then found out that only a small portion of the babys heart worked.



Awhile ago on another bulliten board there was a lady who had a fancy ultra sound done and they pronounced the baby perfect. The baby once born had many problems some which really should have been noticed on an U/S.

I definately dont trust blindly what the medical community says anymore.

Dont think I am a dr hater because Im not really. I do belevie they have their place but they arent gods.


Dr told me once that I was so small to have a baby 'naturally', funny thing is both of my children have been homebirths, no problems.
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what I really hate about the medical community is how they use ultrasounds as verbatum - especially sexing the child before 30 weeks! Until 20 weeks, penii and clitorii look identical, yet here are techies that are saying "boy" or "girl" to 12weekers! And worse? women are believing them as verbatum and are suddenly "surprised" at the 30 week one to discover their girl has grown boy bits or vice versa. And none of them want to even believe that the U/S techie could be wrong.

And that the ultrasounds are _incorrect_ in due date. My son was diagnosed with iugr. Same as his sister. And his date was moved back to September 5 from August 20(lmp) even tho ovulation date put it at August 27. Not only was I charting, I had taken clomid and so I knew _exactly_ which day I ovulated. Nope. OB didn't believe my charts even when I handed them to him! He went by the IUGR diagnosis and said I was two weeks earlier than I was - uh gee.. so I had premature labour at 30 weeks not 32 like he thought? AUGH.

My son was born August 22, 9lbs, 8oz. So much for IUGR. And the ultrasound didn't find the little defect by his ear either.

My daughter's dates didn't vary so wildly. There was only a week difference, but I was still diagnosed with IUGR with her. Uh. yah. right. All 8lbs 5oz iugr!

This one... August 23th is the LMP date. But - BUT - I didn't ovulate till day 28! So, that moves it into September. By O, I am due early September. The U/S I had 6 weeks ago confirmed that date. But I'm still telling everyone the 20th just to keep them off my back. :LOL

I know they're going to bug me about another ultrasound - one for after 18 weeks or so. I won't go for it.
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