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I think the healt dept nurse you spoke to was smoking crack
I refused all three with my son two years ago without a problem. It's a simple waiver they bring you...although yes, in hospital, it is something you will need to discuss with everyone beforehand, and mention (probably more than once) to nurses during your stay.
Vaccination exemption is assumed to be philosophical, and an exemption form is not required until you enroll your child in school. IIRC, if you do well baby checks you will be asked to sign at each visit stating that you have refused vaccination, to CYdoctorsA.
Good luck to you!
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|Do people actually have religious objections to these tests? I'm curious as to the reasoning. I know some vaccines are cultured from aborted fetal tissue (or were originally, or something), but I'm having a hard time seeing why any religion would be against vitamin K or eye ointment. Is it animal-derived vitamin K, making it a problem for vegans (not that veganism is a religion, obviously, but it'd count as a philosophical objection)? Or...?
You should be able to decline anything they plan on charging you for, right?
I don't know if people actually do have religious objections to these tests. My problem is that for the procedures I want to avoid for my son they're part of the newborn screening and for me to avoid them my state only allows a religious exemption. I'm christian and I think my religion really don't care but I'll still do everything I can to get that exemption. I do have other reasons to not want those procedures done on my son so I'm pretty sure I'll be able to decline them, I just want to have a document supporting my rights to decline them when I'm at the hospital.
Texmati-- Knitter, Hindu, vegetarian, WOHM. Wife to superdad and mom to DS 24 months, and DD 8 months! .
|I would defnitely get it straight when you are talking to them whether you are talking about the newborn screening, or the vitk, eye goop and vax.|
|We delayed the hep b (this is quite common) and eye ointment wasn't an issue since he wasn't born vaginally.|
|I skipped almost all of the interventions, but I would never skip the metabolic screening. There's no risk, and the potential payoff is huge.|
|I don't know if people actually do have religious objections to these tests. My problem is that for the procedures I want to avoid for my son they're part of the newborn screening and for me to avoid them my state only allows a religious exemption. I'm christian and I think my religion really don't care but I'll still do everything I can to get that exemption. I do have other reasons to not want those procedures done on my son so I'm pretty sure I'll be able to decline them, I just want to have a document supporting my rights to decline them when I'm at the hospital.|
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|Oh, absolutely. I declined them myself (it's no big deal here). I was just curious if there were any sort of codified religious reasons to avoid them, and what they'd be.
And yeah, I'd definitely do the heel prick test.
|What hospital will you be birthing at?
My son was born at home, and my MW expected me to refuse everything
For my daughters, though, I birthed in hospital and elected to have the K and ointment, but refuse the Hep B. It was not an issue at all in the hospital (my ped was another issue altogether).
The metabolic screen aka PKU aka heel stick is usually done twice, once at birth and once at two weeks. I would never skip it entirely, but I only do it once, at about ten days. This has never been a problem either, and I did not have to get an exemption.
|I want to get an exemption from vitamin k shot, eye ointment and the hep B shot. Those are part of the newborn screening tests that are required by my state.|
|No, those are not part of a screening. They are separate.|
|I got tested for gonorrhea and all STDs in my last month of pregnancy to be sure I could skip the eye ointment.|
|Definitely check with the hospital and talk to people. WY technically says only religious exemption for eye ointment or vitamin K shots, yet I know plenty people who just said no at the local hospital with no further issues... I had DS in CA and there it was not a biggy... Ask the hospital how they work, e.g. as the hospital in CA didn't do the HepB shot, it was the ped on call who would want to do it. The nurses didn't do it for sure. We had to throw one ped out basically, man they pester you like CRAZY about that stuff.|
|We will officially opt out of the CO newborn screening as we do it privately - we will pay $200 for it with a private lab which screens for 55 diseases and they will destroy the blood sample after the test is done, while all states keep a sample on hand until the child turns 18 and they can do with it what they want. We are not comfy with anyone having a DNA sample of our child, no way!|
|As for the K, we do oral vitamin K, dutch protocol. We know we don't need the eye ointment, no STDs here, and actually if one of us cheated, which is the card they always play, we are honest enough to admit such a thing to each other if it happened because it would affect our baby's life. I truly do not see the point if mom lives in a monogamous, loving, honest relationship.|
|Yeah, the PKU was done last time before DD was 24 hours old, no way my milk was in yet (and baby should be nursing milk for it to be valid, so they normally say like 3 days). And then they DIDN'T do it at the peds. They said we'd have to get an order written up and go to the hospital to get it done later. SIGH.|
|You can buy vitamin K from birthwithlove.com, I got it there last time for DS. It is preservative free, plant based, taste and odorless. We did the protocol back then like Europeans do with Konakion (oral vitamin K made by Roche, which is standard back home), which is one drop three times over the first weeks of life. The dutch protocol seems a little better though (just gonna be hard to dose it lower, so we sort of will modify to our own schedule)... Our midwives actually have the oral vitamin K, but I need to buy it since we live 2 hours from the birthing center, so it would make no sense to drive down for the drops... It is about $30 for a bottle that would last for a bunch of newborns!|