is there any reason to refuse triple dye on umbilical cord stump? - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
#1 of 6 Old 07-21-2011, 11:44 AM - Thread Starter
 
icxcnika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Where I'm planning to give birth, it's listed as an option to refuse triple dye on babe's umbilical cord stump.  Is there any reason to refuse?  Of all the research I've done in the past, that one has never really been so much as a topic of conversation!  

icxcnika is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 of 6 Old 07-21-2011, 08:24 PM
 
XanaduMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SE PDX
Posts: 2,826
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes--the reason to refuse is that you don't need it! Air drying is the way to go; it usually means the stump dries and falls off sooner, especially if you delay cord clamping/cutting until the cord is white. Not necessary, IMO.

read.gifSarah ~ wild.gifds X 12/05 ~ flower.gifdd E 3/08 h20homebirth.gif  ~  stork-suprise.gif 7/12 dizzy.gif

XanaduMama is offline  
#3 of 6 Old 07-25-2011, 11:54 AM
 
kltroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Risk is infection of the umbilical stump.  Some places use triple dye,  We were always told just to wipe w/ alcohol to keep it clean.  There are some clinical trials on this, e.g. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/111/1/15.abstract  that conclude that wiping with alcohol or triple dye reduces discharge and infection rate.


Mom to James (ribboncesarean.gif 5/2006), Claire (vbac.gif 6/2008), furry kitties Calvin and Bob, and wife to Dennis. 

kltroy is offline  
#4 of 6 Old 07-25-2011, 02:09 PM
 
XanaduMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SE PDX
Posts: 2,826
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Actually recent research shows what many parents (esp HBing parents) already knew: that alcohol, let alone the iodine swab, isn't necessary and actually delays detachment of the stump. Just keep it dry, watch for infection (foul odor, redness, fever), and don't mess with it!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16466360

 

ETA: I should qualify my response by pointing out that you (and one's babies) are much more likely to become infected with things like staph and strep (the infections one need to worry about) IN THE HOSPITAL than anywhere else. So if you're concerned about hospital borne infections, and if lots of hospital workers are likely to be touching your baby and his/her umbilical cord, then the risk factors for infection might be higher and you might have a different view of things. Personally, this is one big reason I birth at home winky.gif


read.gifSarah ~ wild.gifds X 12/05 ~ flower.gifdd E 3/08 h20homebirth.gif  ~  stork-suprise.gif 7/12 dizzy.gif

XanaduMama is offline  
#5 of 6 Old 07-25-2011, 02:38 PM
 
kltroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Agreed - the advantage seems to be small, and the evidence is shaky.  If you don't want to, it's fine to avoid putting anything on.  Actually come to think of it, I think we may have just kept the area clean and dry with my daughter.  Her cord did come off early (like 8 days maybe?) and we were a little worried that it was *too* early.  I think her cloth diapers were hitting it wrong, so we switched to disposables for a week or so while it healed up a bit, and put a bandaid over it, because it was so red and open looking. 


Mom to James (ribboncesarean.gif 5/2006), Claire (vbac.gif 6/2008), furry kitties Calvin and Bob, and wife to Dennis. 

kltroy is offline  
#6 of 6 Old 07-27-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Spirit Dancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Eastern Canada
Posts: 502
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

With my three briths I delyed cutting the cord and put nothing on it. All their cords fell off on day 3 or 4.

Spirit Dancer is offline  
Reply

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off