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#1 of 10 Old 05-02-2004, 03:51 PM - Thread Starter
 
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4880283/

"We try not to let patients totally dictate the way their labor is managed," says Thiet, whose UCSF birth center offers pools for the early, but not late, stages of labor. "But we do want them to have a say."

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Well, I'm a dictator, so I'm glad I'm not having a hospital birth!

That's the reason I decided against a birth center birth - because no matter how home-like they make it, even if all the midwives are DEMs and it's completely freestanding, it's still an institution with rules. There are rules about how long you can stay there during and after labor. The CNM birth center I almost delivered at had a rule that if you labored there for over 24 hours, you had to leave. They said you could either check into a hotel and come back later, or go to the hospital. It looks like my own home is going to be the only place without any stupid rules like that.

And the caption does not fit the photo at all. It's still a woman lying in bed with a bunch of wires attached to her. I don't believe she was given much of a choice.

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Jerold F. Lucey, M.D., editor of the journal Pediatrics, wrote in the October 2003 issue that he had "always considered underwater birth a bad joke, useless, a fad which was so idiotic it would go away. It hasn't!"
I thought doctors were really into scientific evidence. Has there ever been a case of a baby who died as a result of a waterbirth?

I think patients only "have a say" when either their wishes just happen to be what the hospital would do anyway, or when they just do whatever they want and don't give the doctor a choice.
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In Russia they believed that the longer a baby was underwater after it was born, the better an astronaut it would be when it grew up. Following that trend, many babies in the US were not brought immediately to the surface after birth. Those babies often had trouble "getting started." So if there ever was evidence water birth was unsafe, it is 20 something years old and totally irrelevant now since babies are brought to the surface soon after birth.
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She looks as wired up as I was during dd's birth. She's smiling too much to not have an epidural while stuck in bed. It was h--- lying on my side during labor with no epidural when I wanted to be moving around.

I hate that quote. OMG... like I'm going to let some man with a penis and no uterus tell me what I can and can't do according to his convenience. You gotta be kidding me!
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Wow. I certainly could have gone without reading that article.
It just reconfirms my choice to use a MW and have a waterbirth.

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Oh, and isn't that a total mis-statement of what a doula is?
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*cold chills running down back*
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must...not...read...article...

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Uggh, klothos, why'd you do that to me? Now I'm going to be stomping around mumbling to myself for days . . .

(My husband and I just spent most of a 2 hour car ride this morning discussing the rediculous state of birth in the US)
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And how can they ensure that they give women autonomy without ceding too much of their own authority?


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"We try not to let patients totally dictate the way their labor is managed," says Thiet, whose UCSF birth center offers pools for the early, but not late, stages of labor. "But we do want them to have a say." After all, in the last 30 years they've gotten a say in almost everything else.
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