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#61 of 150 Old 11-29-2005, 01:29 AM
 
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Re: birth plan. I replied in your other thread, but I think this thread is the place to be! (And, I didn't really provide a plan anyway!)
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Hi all--

Thought I would post my birth story:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=358694

I had a relatively great experience this time around, and it was due to an understanding doc and our birth plan (which the nurses followed to the letter).

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Hi,

I had a friend who just had a c/s and I'd like to take her some stuff this week for her (not for baby), like fun and pampering stuff. I have a book and magazine in mind, and maybe some herbal tea mixes for female systems, but I was wondering if anyone has any other ideas for good post c/s stuff. I will probably throw in some good snacks but food didn't seem to be something she was interested in.
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I loooooved the Badger Balm healing balm (I think they called it healing balm, might have been healing oil or something like that) for massaging over my incision. I know you're supposed to do the scar massage without oil or lotion, but in the first few weeks it was just too uncomfortable. And the badger balm stuff smelled wonderful and felt great rubbed across my tummy and incision area. You can usually start gentle scar massage within a week or so of the c/s (once the skin has healed over) but you friend might want to ask her doctor just to be on the safe side.

Oh, and I had a great "bath salt" type product a friend made me for soaking my feet while nursing....lots of mint and lavender. It was a relaxing pick-me-up (I know that sounds funny) that really helped since my feet were swollen after my c/s.

Anyway, a yummy massage lotion/moisturizer or an herbal foot soak might be a nice addition. Your friend is so lucky to have someone like you to think of her needs at this time (rather than just the baby's!).

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I loooooved the Badger Balm healing balm (I think they called it healing balm, might have been healing oil or something like that) for massaging over my incision. I know you're supposed to do the scar massage without oil or lotion, but in the first few weeks it was just too uncomfortable. And the badger balm stuff smelled wonderful and felt great rubbed across my tummy and incision area. You can usually start gentle scar massage within a week or so of the c/s (once the skin has healed over) but you friend might want to ask her doctor just to be on the safe side.

Oh, and I had a great "bath salt" type product a friend made me for soaking my feet while nursing....lots of mint and lavender. It was a relaxing pick-me-up (I know that sounds funny) that really helped since my feet were swollen after my c/s.

Anyway, a yummy massage lotion/moisturizer or an herbal foot soak might be a nice addition. Your friend is so lucky to have someone like you to think of her needs at this time (rather than just the baby's!).
Thanks. What kind of store could I find that stuff in? Would any Body Shop type place have it, or Whole Foods maybe?
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April, I didn't have any "pampering" stuff with any of my sections - but a lot of moms have said that they really enjoyed something warm (hot water bottle, microwaveble heat pad, etc.) pressed against the abdomen. Maybe you could include something like that?

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April, I didn't have any "pampering" stuff with any of my sections - but a lot of moms have said that they really enjoyed something warm (hot water bottle, microwaveble heat pad, etc.) pressed against the abdomen. Maybe you could include something like that?
Thanks, I will put in that or heat wraps I saw somewhere else.

I didn't have any either after my c/s, but I also didn't have too much scar pain and since it was 2 years ago I'm having a hard time now thinking about what I actually physically wanted in those first weeks (other than to have a replay, unfortunately no one can give us that). Maybe it would have helped some anyhow, so I thought I'd try and include something. At any rate, I think having "mom" stuff is the key while everyone is focusing on baby, that's the hard part.
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Hi all! I just wanted to introduce myself into this thread. I my first section in march 03 for my breech dd who just wouldn't turn. Started planning an HBAC with my second, but had kell antibodies and was high-risk. Had my second section in October 04. I am still working through some issues with my births and if the next baby is kell negative, i will plan a HBA2C. But i gotta do what i gotta do for my babies. So hi :

April, after my scar healed up and the hair was growing back, it was soooooo itchy so my dh got me some sugar scrub in oil (or maybe it was sea salt?) and it really helped. It helped exfoliate and then the oil calmed the skin so it wasn't as itchy (for a few minutes at least ) I think that you can get it pretty much any bath type store.

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I got the badger balm (they also make a great soothing/sleepy rub for babies) in the natural food section of our local supermarkert (a wegmans, if that helps...not sure what area they cover). The badger balm website is http://www.badgerbalm.com/ and they might have a store finder. But I'm sure any soothing, rich, oil would be as yummy!

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I just checked their website...I used both the unscented healing balm and the healing birch massage oil (the birch smells sooooo good too!)

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They do have Badger Balm at Whole Foods. Thanks all!
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Momto1and1ontheway - I have been working on mine. If you still need more info after looking at Kim's let me know. Hers was very helpful to me. I would be happy to share mine with you. BTW, it looks like we are due right about the same time.
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Hi all! I thought I would stop lurking and introduce myself as I'm going to be asking a lot of questions soon. As you can see from my siggy, I'm expecting triplets in June (My OB is hoping to get me to the last week of April or the beginning of May but we won't know for certain until we get closer.) After doing a lot of research, talking to other moms of trips, my OB and periantologist I've pretty much accepted the fact that I will be having a c/s. At first I was really bummed, but the more I read about how difficult it is for them to accurately monitor 3 babes, the more comfortable I became with it. After all, what is more important to me...a vaginal delivery or keeping my babes safe?

So now I am working on a birth plan and figuring out what we need. I'd like to get a few questions ready for my OB at our next appointment and reading everyone's experiences has really helped a lot. Are there any books that you recommend? Someone recommended Birthing from Within but I found it to be more applicable to unplanned c/s than to knowing you are having one by the end of your first trimester. Also, should I still look into getting a doula or, since I have a very large family and a responsive OB should I just make sure everyone knows what I want and have a lot of copies of the birth plan? DH's step-mother has offered to be there and make sure I get what I want and also my dad (a nurse) and his girlfriend (a NICU nurse) will also be there.

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I would still hire a doula -- relatives might still worry about you and act on that worry, where a professional can focus on you & the birth in an "unloaded" way. Definitely go for a doula w/experience in planned surgical birth, and preferably experience w/multiples as well -- that may be a tall order.

My surgical birth was not planned but a book that really helped me was "Hands of Love: 7 Steps to the Miracle of Birth" by Carol J. Phillips. She's a chiropractor and homebirth doula who also attends hospital birth; her info on cesaerean birth planning and making surgery birth-friendly was essential to me in facing my fears about possible hospital birth. The single act of having my midwife stay with me in surgery while my husband accompanied our son to the nursery was worth the price of the book, but there's a lot of great, positive suggestion in there.

One personal suggestion I have for you, if it feels right -- have a friend taping through the nursery window when the babes are briefly separated from you. A friend did this for us while my husband was with our son immediately post-partum (while I had my stitches), & watching that tape of his first moments made me feel closer to our son during that "bonding" time. (Also I was glad my husband didn't do it -- he could focus on his new child instead.)

I know it sounds weird to say it on a natural-family board, but as a planned homebirther who made it through the hospital surprisingly happy I say -- enjoy your adventure! Some women's bodies open without assistance to let their children out -- ours have opened with assistance to do the same. May you be lovingly attended!
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One books to check might be "Cesarean section : understanding and celebrating your baby's birth" by Michele Moore and Caroline de Costa (Johns Hopkins University Press).

I had an unplanned c/s and found this book later...it's aimed more at women planning cesareans, and takes the (unconventional for the mothering community) view that since so many women DO have cesareans, it doesn't make sense to discuss c/s as an "un-natural" or "non-normal" event. According to the book jacket:

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Caesarean section is often seen as an unnecessary medical intervention or even as a personal failure for a woman, and is an option often feared by expectant mothers. Here, the authors emphasize the joy of delivering a baby, whatever the method, explaining all the issues surrounding Caesareans.

From anesthesia, surgery, and recovery through at-home care of mother and child, the authors offer reassurance and practical information for all mothers and mothers-to-be. They also discuss the latest findings on postpartum depression and planning for future births, including the possibility of vaginal birth after a Cesarean section.

Because up to a quarter of all births are Cesarean births.... We believe strongly that it is time to speak out and say that Cesarean section is a normal birth method and that women who have a Cesarean section should not be made to feel that they have failed.
I didn't agree with all the information presented (or at least, I didn't always agree with the WAY that information was presented), but I think that in the case of a planned c/s this might be a great resource!

good luck mama...it sounds like you're in for a wonderful adventure!

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I will have to check out that book...I mean, I don't think a c-section is something to celebrate necessarily (or should be "normal"), but the birth itself is a celebration. Does that make sense?

mimid--Congratulations on your triplets! What an amazing journey for you, mama! My 2 cents...I have had one unplanned and one planned c-section and in terms of the planned, the things that I changed were that I got to see the baby right after he came out for a second, and I got to hold him in the OR vs recovery while I was being stitched. Those were the most important things to me because they didn't happen with the 1st. Also that I didn't have any IV drugs (other than the one for nausea that doesn't make you woozy...can't remember the name of it...) so I was fully present for birth and recovery. Taking TONS of pictures was also important, plus video.

good luck...there are lots of resources as you plan.
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There is some info on this site regarding cesarean birth plans:
http://www.caesarean.org.uk

Warning... there is some graphic stuff on that site so be careful where you click!

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One books to check might be "Cesarean section : understanding and celebrating your baby's birth" by Michele Moore and Caroline de Costa (Johns Hopkins University Press).

I had an unplanned c/s and found this book later...it's aimed more at women planning cesareans, and takes the (unconventional for the mothering community) view that since so many women DO have cesareans, it doesn't make sense to discuss c/s as an "un-natural" or "non-normal" event. According to the book jacket:



I didn't agree with all the information presented (or at least, I didn't always agree with the WAY that information was presented), but I think that in the case of a planned c/s this might be a great resource!

good luck mama...it sounds like you're in for a wonderful adventure!
Thanks! I'm almost 15 months past my c/s and I'm STILL working through feelings. I may have to find that book!
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Thanks for the tips ladies! I'm off to nap and then will start looking for the books and I'll check out the site.

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"Cesarean section : understanding and celebrating your baby's birth" by Michele Moore and Caroline de Costa (Johns Hopkins University Press).
Just a quick comment on this book...you may want to check it out of a library (that's where I got it) instead of buying. I think it would be a good book for someone who is planning a c/s. It's very supportive of that choice and has some good information about planning/having/recovering from a c/s. That said, I think it's really aimed at the pre-c/s mama who is planning a positive c/s birth rather than at the (more than a few weeks) post-unplanned c/s mama. For example, it covers types of medications used, possible side effects, ways to bond in the hospital, types of sutures available, what to expect in the first few days, etc.

What it didn't offer was a way for me to come to terms with my unplanned c/s months after the operation. That's just me, and other mamas may find it more helpful on a "processing" level, but I'd still recommend finding a copy in the library.

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Beth,
(Hi! Good to "see" you) that is awesome you got to hold your baby in the OR. I wish I had remembered to do that.
Another thing that helped me feel better about my 2nd CS (CBAC) was that I had DH film it. It really helped to see the film of my baby coming out of my body... to see the actual moment of her emergence. <teary eyes>
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Another "tip"....don't let the anesthesiologist film the birth. Ours didn't press the right button. We got plenty of great shots though.
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I love the pics of my DD coming out of me. DH was clicking away and the anesthesiologist was telling him to slow down and wait for the baby. But I am glad DH listened to me and not him - you can see one leg, a butt, a back and then finally her whole body.

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Hi everyone!

I was wondering about the use of a doula during a c/s birth. If you had one, what did you find helpful? What was the doula's role? We are considering having a doula at our birth, and I have a feeling that it will really make a difference, but I was wondering about others' experiences. Also, I was told that the anestesiologist is the one who gets to decide whether or not the doula is allowed in the OR... does this sound correct?

Thanks for your input!

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In our case our homebirth midwife became our doula once we had hospital transfer. It was our OB who had a say over who came into the OR with us -- but both our OB lady & our anesthesiologist guy are hip to homebirth & midwives, so they are used to OR midwives & doulas. I labored & pushed before surgery so our midwife/doula helped me through that; but she also was great during application of the epidural, and reassuring me while it really took effect (I couldn't feel myself breathing & needed reassurance that I wasn't dying!). She also made sure my big-guy husband was given appropriately sized scrubs, helped him know where to stand, held BOTH our hands, gave us commentary when we wanted it (watching the actual surgery was too intense for us). On the way to recovery she signaled our families that everyone was OK; she also acted as "gopher" while we started nursing in recovery and even kindly fetched my husband a sandwich (which I jealously longed for -- I didn't know you can't eat right after surgery!). Your doula will have her own suggestions, but I say it was TOTALLY worth it -- you & your partner can focus completely on the birth & new baby, she can be a guide through unfamiliar surgical territory, & partner can have his/her own bonding process without having to be photographer or errand-runner.
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I think a doula would be great for a c/s. But in our area, its tough to get that second person in. I was not "allowed" in for my client who was going back to a c/s after a long day of laboring. It sucked, and I suppose if she advocated enough, she might have gotten me back, but she was pretty tired.

For my own planned c/s, I did not have my doula or MW come because I knew there would be a good chance that they would not be allowed back, and I didnt want them to make arrangements and then just sit around all day. As it was, we were in a tiny OR, so I bet it would have been a battle.

That said, once the baby was born, DH went with her to the recovery room and I was all alone. It was 20 mins or so, but since we forgot our MP3 player, I was bored. I tried chatting with the Dr and the anestesiologist, but having someone I *knew* would have been nice.

I hear the line all the time that the anesthesiologist makes the call. Which sucks, cause its not like you know who that will be, so you cant check ahead of time.

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The hospital I used only allowed one additional "support" person to be in the OR during a c/s. Althoug my dh went with our dd to the recovery room while I was being attended to, the doula was still not allowed into the OR. She was a great help during the actual labor process, but after the decision was made to go with a c/s she was essentailly out of the picture. Not that I really minded...she'd been helping me for over 19 hours and she deserved a break!

So check with hospital policy...it may be better to spend your money on a doula who will attend to you after you've delivered, rather than at the hospital.

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We had the same experience where only one person was allowed into the OR with me. My doula had to wait outside. If I were to schedule a c/s I would not get a doula, I don't really see the point I guess. (Maybe someone can enlighten me as to what a doula would do during a c/s?) I think it would be money better spent elsewhere, like a postpartum doula as suggested above.

One other thing to consider: My dad was surgeon and did a lot of c/s over the years in the rural hospital where he worked. He was opposed to "extra" people in the OR because each additional person brought in more germs. He felt that could increase the risk of infection for the patient. Not sure if that has been borne out in any kind of studies, but it does make sense.
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Thanks for your replies and inputs. I am hopeful that the hospital will at least let a doula in the OR if/when my husband takes the baby to the OR. I know with our last birth that was tough for me to be in the OR unsupported. I also know that it would be helpful to have someone to help if my husband has an extended stay in the nursery with the baby, as occured withour last birth. The nurses did what they could, but I was alone, wondering what was going on with my baby, a lot of the time. Is this more a function for a post-partum doula?

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I wouldn't hire a doula for a planned c-section...but a pp doula would be great. My mom came right after the birth and stayed with me while dh did other stuff, paperwork, took the placenta to the car so I wasn't by myself. She also stayed with me when dh when home. It really stinks to be by yourself after a c-sect for any length of time, IMO, even if your nurses are awesome.

We did have a doula but she couldn't attend the birth anyway because of child care...which was fine, because the only time I sort of missed having someone was when I was being sewed up and just bored, not freaked out or anything because I had held the baby, who was fine, and dh went with him to give his bath and all that stuff. So I just chatted with the nurses.
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