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#241 of 1132 Old 11-10-2006, 04:20 PM
 
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Hi, All!

I had my son by c/s 7 years ago. I was induced (and I will tell anyone who will listen to never do that to themselves!) and 19 hours later had progressed to only 4cm. The baby was in distress, his heartrate was dropping, and he wasn't budging. Once the doc got in there, he told me there was no way that he was coming out on his own. He was stuck so firmly in my pelvis that DH said the doc's hands were shaking from trying so hard to pull him out.

I am 4 months along with Baby #2, and I'm planning on a c/s this time. This is an IVF baby (FET, actually) and after all we have gone through, I'm not going to risk anything going wrong.

I really, really appreciate Mom_on_the_moves's birth plan! I have cut and pasted it to make it my own. I already told my OB certain things that we will and will not be doing that she didn't even blink at, which is good. One thing I don't want is Vicodin -- it gave me horrible, neverending nightmares!
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Hi everyone,

I'm pg with #3 and it will be my third section... for my first labour, everything seemed to go wrong. I had planned on having a natural birth, but ended up, after 30+ hours of labor and every intervention under the sun, with a c-section after ds's heartrate got progressively slower with each contraction and I started to close up after reaching only 3-4 cm dilation. I don't regret that section.

I struggled with the decision of a section with dd for my entire pg. My dr was somewhat supportive of the idea of a VBAC but I was frightened of something going wrong (I failed to have much birthing faith in my body after the first). I made the mistake of reading scary rupture stories on the internet and ended up giving myself a 'deadline' - if I didn't go into labour by it then I'd just have a section... I ended up having the section and that one I really regretted... I was very frightenend, dd didn't seem 'ready' to be born (not that there was anything wrong with her, she was just very unsettled for the first couple of weeks), I had an awful recovery... I could go on!

So now I'm pg with #3 and I flip-flopped with the VBAC idea again, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm just not comfortable with the (albiet low) risks that do come from having had multiple sections. My dr was open to me trying for a trial of labor, but I am just not comfortable with what could go wrong. I do mourn the fact that I will never push a baby out of my body, but I do feel quite peaceful and accepting of my next section... I'm actually starting to enjoy this pg now that I am at peace with my birthing decision; with my second, I really struggled for my whole pg about having a section or not, and it took the focus off of the wonderful part of baby growing.

I'll have to take some time to catch-up with this thread, but I look forward to getting to know you all!
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Hello! Its been ages since I posted here, but I wanted to give an update.

I had my third child via cesarean on October 12th. For those who don't remember my story, we lost our second child to a uterine rupture in 2005. We became pregnant again 10 months after my rupture.

I saw a high risk specialist in conjunction with my OB. Our plan was to deliver at 37 weeks following an amnio for lung maturity. Well, that plan fell by the wayside when I began experiencing pre-term contractions at 30 weeks. I got a series of betamethasone injections (steroids to hasten lung maturity) and I was put on terbutaline to try and stop the contractions (but it didn't really help). At 32 weeks I had an ultrasound of my lower uterine segment and my uterus was so thin in one area that the peri couldn't even measure the thickness there. A new plan was quickly developed to get me to 34 weeks and then deliver.

At 34 weeks exactly I delivered my baby. She needed 2 days on oxygen and spent 11 days in the NICU. But she is home with me now and is exclusively breastfed. During my C-section, the OB saw a definite window in my uterus, so we all feel the early delivery was the right thing to do in my case.

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Oh Beth! I am so happy for you! I am so glad Amy is home with you. She is beautiful! Thanks for the update! I have been thinking of you.
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Wow, Beth, that sounds scary! I'm so glad your little one is healthy and home with you!!!

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Congrats, Beth!!!

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Welcome Liz and nice to meet you Beth, your story is of great interest to me, as we hope to make it to 37-38 weeks with this little one. Question- was your labor "real", I don't mean that as an insult, I mean that simple Braxton Hicks which didn't effect my cervix at all, caused my window last time, and I am curious if it was Braxton Hicks that did the same to you. I am planning to take Magnesium orally to attempt to stop them, and bedrest myself at the end, and of course, none of that will guarantee a thing. Thanks for any additional details you can provide and congratulations on your little girl.

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was your labor "real", I don't mean that as an insult, I mean that simple Braxton Hicks which didn't effect my cervix at all, caused my window last time, and I am curious if it was Braxton Hicks that did the same to you.
No offense taken. They were probably BH contrax, since there was no cervical change. It was very odd actually. If I was on my feet for any length of time or walked more than, oh say 100 yards, or climbed stairs at all, I had them. But if I sat or lay down, they went away. My OB said that in a "normal" pregnancy they wouldn't really be worried. I was on modified bedrest from 30 weeks until I delivered at 34 weeks. They tried Procardia to stop the contrax intially, but that made me horribly dizzy. So they put me on terbutaline, which made me a little shapky, but was tolerable. I was also taking magnesium but nothing really helped.

When I had my ultrasound with the peri at 32 weeks, my whole uterine segment was thinner than they like to see, but the window area was the area that the peri was not able to measure.

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Congratulations Beth!!

I am wondering if any of you ladies here have experienced this. (TMI SORRY!) Last January (about 7 months postpartum from my second c/s) I was going to the bathroom and during a bowel movement I strained too hard or something and I had horrible pain all through my pelvic floor and lower abdomen. So bad DH and I considered cancelling our road trip and going to the ER. We talked to my MIL (who is a nurse) about it and she said I may have pulled and internal ligament or something and I should lie down and ice it and see how it is. After about 2 hours the pain did go down and I was sore for a day or two. Since then it has happened a couple more times, most recently this past weekend - but I was only urinating this time, though the pain wasn't as bad, I had to sit still for a good hour before I could really walk and I was in discomfort all day and still sore the next. The fact that I could do that while only peeing made me think it wasn't just overstraining going on, I had some issues from the c/section.

I spoke to my OB about it (I had my D/c post op visit today) and she said it was probably scar tissue from the sections and that scar tissue is an unfortunately side effect of surgery and though they try to control it with technique and medicine, they can't really prevent it as its part of the way the body heals. Anyway, what concerns me is that she mentioned its likely to get worse with each additional section. We wanted a third (we did actually get pregnant again, but I miscarried) but we are now on the fence about the third again, and the possibility of being in constnat pain due to scar tissue worries me. So I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced a lot of this pain, how it changed with successive sections, etc.

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mightymoo -- hmm.... I don't have a good idea about what might cause that pain, but it seems like you should be able to see someone that would know what's going on. I have heard of massage therapists who can help to "break up" scar tissue by massage. I do know that scar tissue can adhere to the bladder or other internal organs. I wonder if an ultrasound could tell??

I'm new here... I had my DS by emergency cesarean. I went into labor on his due date, labored easily at home, went to the birth center where midwife found I was 8 cm dialated and DS was a footling breech. Water broke, ambulaance ride... he was surgically taken out 30 minutes later, while I was 10 cm.

21 months later I was planning a vbac for #2. Desperately wanted a normal birth. Went to 42 weeks, had arom at 5 cm dialated, labored naturally to 10cm (took forever!) and then pushed for over 2 hours. DD would not decend, we were worried about rupture. Turned out she was asynclictic. Had another cesarean.

Sigh. It was very hard after the birth... and we do want a third. Right now I'm of the mind to try hba2c. It won't be for a while though...

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I too had severe adhesion or scar tissue pain with this preg. It was a terribly sharp stabbing pain low in my left abd. I went to the hospital for it, it started when I was 22 wk pg. After ruling everything else out, they decided it must be adhesions from my last c/s. It recurred several times, but finally went away. Haven't had it for a month or more. I hope it stays gone!
Glad to hear that a few of you have had better luck with scheduled rather than emergency c/s. My cousin told me the same thing, so I am hoping!
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I too had severe adhesion or scar tissue pain with this preg. It was a terribly sharp stabbing pain low in my left abd. I went to the hospital for it, it started when I was 22 wk pg. After ruling everything else out, they decided it must be adhesions from my last c/s. It recurred several times, but finally went away. Haven't had it for a month or more. I hope it stays gone!
Glad to hear that a few of you have had better luck with scheduled rather than emergency c/s. My cousin told me the same thing, so I am hoping!
This is what happened to me earlier this yr. Make sure to address your complaints and that they check your scar tissue. I was having a sharp pain as well on my right side...I was rupturing and didn't know it. PLEASE make sure that you do not go into labor. Even premature contractions can re open a scar and it, in my case, was fatal to my baby. if you have ANY contractions please go to the er to make sure you are not in labor and maybe even get something to stop them.

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This is what happened to me earlier this yr. Make sure to address your complaints and that they check your scar tissue. I was having a sharp pain as well on my right side...I was rupturing and didn't know it. PLEASE make sure that you do not go into labor. Even premature contractions can re open a scar and it, in my case, was fatal to my baby. if you have ANY contractions please go to the er to make sure you are not in labor and maybe even get something to stop them.
Thank you for saying this as I wasn't sure how to, I am sure for some women, the pain described is "just scar tissue" but- my OB wrote mine off as that, and it was truly my window happening, of course, I was 34 weeks the first time I felt it, but- I would think a level 2 US could give some idea if there has been thinning of the uterus in the area the pain was (mine was on my right side, and ftr- I had no scar tissue at all). I would call my Dr. and be certain that they address this concern. Also- my window happened before any true labor, so- be sure to consider what Braxton Hicks could do.

I hate to be a scaremonger, but- I am finally seeing from other mama's stories how differently things could've gone for me and my baby.

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i am 3 weeks from delivery and having some pretty noticeable BHcx. yesterday they were kind of frequent, but went away. i have an appointment tomorrow and plan to bring that up. i am VERY tired of being pg. i have been measuring 2 weeks ahead, so i'm thinking maybe a little earlier might be ok. it is terrible at night when i try to switch sides, half the time iwake up saying ouch. my OB is very aware of UR and we agreed that no labor is good labor for me-b/w 2 previous c/s and a narrow pelvis i have an upped risk of UR. luckily my babe is quite active and tels me he is still there-wonder if that is a sign of what he will be like?? i just can't wait until i can move again-no BIG belly. my mom yesterday even said that i looked bigger. unfortunalty she is away for 10 in florida. i told her to keep her phone charged. my OB/gyn is also her's so she is quite empathetic to the mom is away thing. well see. i'll update allof you. totaly can't wait though. i am SOOOO done with this pregnancy and being pg in general. i did elect for a tubal- and doing anything permennant-other than tattoos, is not like me. no more kids here, i'll stick with my 3 boys!!!!with my luck i would be pg 6 weeks after i have this one. DS3was concieved while FT BF and con BC!!!! and DS2 was concieved 2 weeks after my dh and i got together. we need permenant.
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18 days till my c/s!!!!! talked with ob yesterday and she was VERY open to my ideas. she will make sure the drap is lowered and that i have a pillow so that i can see everything!!! she said she wishes that more mom's would request that. i think i might jsut get a birth high this time. she also gave me a script for zyrtec to take before hand so that i am not itchy from the duramorph and don't have to have benydryl. she said i could eat as soon as i was hungry and that cath will be out quick. i can shower as soon as i can walk. still can't drive for 2 weeks, but that is from birth not discharge. offered me shortened stay-2 days if i want!! wrote that my arms are to be not tied down and that i am allergic to phenergan. she said that if i have trouble with the nurses on stuff to let her know. some jsut don't get it. like having to be on clear liq for 24 hours-load of crap!!! she said all else fails to smuggle food in-dr. orders!!! she can be soo cool. she also want me to find the thing of the mom in australia who helped birth her section baby-she thought that idea was just too cool!
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FYI, they can also give you Nubain for the itching from the morphine. I had this with my last section, since I am EXTREMELY sensitive to Benadryl and the morphine makes me itch so bad its painful. They gave me a low dose Duramorph which helped the itching somewhat, but I still needed 2 doses of Nubain in the first 24 hours post section.

And also FYI, you can skip the Duramorph completely and ask for a PCA with a different narcotic. With my second section (emergency under GA) I didn't have Duramorph, and instead had a PCA with dilaudid (hydromorphone) and I had no itching at all. In retrospect, I wish I had gone this route, which was one of the 2 options the anesthesiologist gave me when I expressed my concern about the itching from the Duramorph.

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New to this tribe... I hadn't really discovered the NFL community when I was pregnant with my son last year. I was already crunch-oriented, but didn't have a lot of education about birthing options. I was seeing a pair of midwives who were in a practice with OBs, and at 38 weeks the OB/head of the clinic basically stepped into my exam room and annouced that they were giving me a C-Section because of the probably size of my baby. Grayson was born via c-section at 38w2days at 10 pounds 4 ounces. I was very confused at the sudden change from midwife to OB, and looking back, I feel that I could have changed the outcome... but it really hasn't been too much of a problem. I occasionally feel I've missed out on the birth experience, but in the grand spectrum of things to worry and stress about, it's a bit lower on my worry list. The most important thing is that my boy was very healthy and safe, and we have had an awesome relationship and great nursing, etc. Anyway, just wanted to join this tribe of other mamas and see what others' experiences have been like. I haven't decided yet when we'll be having more kidlets, or if I will try to attempt a VBAC.
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10 pounds 4 oz is one good sized babe!!! one of my friend's babies was that big, with a VERY short cord and didn't have a section, but thinks that if she has known she might have opted for it. it was a very difficult delivery. you have a great out look on your birth! at least he really was big and they didn't just presume that and end up with a 8 pounder like so many i know.
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18 days till my c/s!!!!! talked with ob yesterday and she was VERY open to my ideas. she will make sure the drap is lowered and that i have a pillow so that i can see everything!!! she said she wishes that more mom's would request that. i think i might jsut get a birth high this time. she also gave me a script for zyrtec to take before hand so that i am not itchy from the duramorph and don't have to have benydryl. she said i could eat as soon as i was hungry and that cath will be out quick. i can shower as soon as i can walk. still can't drive for 2 weeks, but that is from birth not discharge. offered me shortened stay-2 days if i want!! wrote that my arms are to be not tied down and that i am allergic to phenergan. she said that if i have trouble with the nurses on stuff to let her know. some jsut don't get it. like having to be on clear liq for 24 hours-load of crap!!! she said all else fails to smuggle food in-dr. orders!!! she can be soo cool. she also want me to find the thing of the mom in australia who helped birth her section baby-she thought that idea was just too cool!
Be VERY careful of eating anything too soon after surgery. I did this last time and wound up with an illeus (sp?). A blockage that was EXTREMELY painful with constant vomiting and eventually having to an an NG tube put in where they pumped back out the 2 liters of contents that I had put in my stomach since the surgery. It was SOOOOO miserable I cannot even describe it.

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thanks for the heads up. what i really meant in my asking my ob was so that i wouldn't have to wait almost 2 days to have real food!!! i might do clears once or twice, but i remember STARVING last time!!! i don't intend on eating a full dinner, but i would like some sushi and miso soup!!! i wanted someone to get that for me both of my previous times and no one did.
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thanks for the heads up. what i really meant in my asking my ob was so that i wouldn't have to wait almost 2 days to have real food!!! i might do clears once or twice, but i remember STARVING last time!!! i don't intend on eating a full dinner, but i would like some sushi and miso soup!!! i wanted someone to get that for me both of my previous times and no one did.
All I had was mashed potatoes and it was probably 8 or so hours after my surgery.

My two prior c-secs I was only allowed the clear liquids and I was hungry but I didn't have any problems.

Maybe I'd have gotten the illeus anyway but if it did come from eating the day of surgery it sure wasn't worth it.

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From what I gathered from my previous two surgeries is they like to hear bowel sounds before you have clear liquids and for you to pass gas (making sure the system works) before anything more - if there is a perferation or they don't want to have too much going through the system to complicate things. My first one was at night, so I think I got to have clear liquids around noon the next day. The second one was at 2pm, and I think I got clear liquids the next morning.

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thanks for the heads up. what i really meant in my asking my ob was so that i wouldn't have to wait almost 2 days to have real food!!! i might do clears once or twice, but i remember STARVING last time!!! i don't intend on eating a full dinner, but i would like some sushi and miso soup!!! i wanted someone to get that for me both of my previous times and no one did.
All I wanted was *milk* and couldn't have it because it's not a "clear" liquid. In my past births, they wanted to hear you pass gas first, rocking in a rocking chair helps .

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Oh- and let me say, in case anyone here forgot- TAKE THE STOLL SOFTENERS. I would give up the pain meds before I would give those up.

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I have not had a c-section but I was reading something on LACTNET today that made me think of all of you here... there is a lactation consultant on LACTNET (a list for IBCLC's, LLL Leaders, etc) who helped a mom breastfeed while they were closing her c-section incision! It took some help but they did it! I was very excited and happy to read that
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My OB said my body would guide me when I was ready to eat. I was so VERY nausous after DD was born, even though regular lunch and dinner was brought to me, I did not want them. About 3am that night, I was ready and had a deli sandwich. (Note: to me, after 8 months of no deli meat, that sandwich was WONDERFUL) After that, I was eating regular meals with no problems.

ITA on the stool softeners. I did get wickedly constipated and ended up needing a suppository. TMI, sorry. However, between the anti-nausea meds I had to take and the narcs well, that is a recipe for constipation. I felt a million times better once I got the supposority. PAK, sorry.

In my birth prep DVD which I was given since I could not go to the Brandley Classes due to bed rest, the teacher suggests warm Camamile tea. She also suggests avoiding cold or hot fluids to help with the bowels getting going again. Thing is, I was freezing cold, but craved ice water. She suggests making the tea, letting it cool, and add sugar, to help you get your blood sugar up.
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Once I realized this last one would be a c/s, I started looking for recovery advice. I found the site C-Section Recovery.

I think I found here, the advice to pull in your stomach and back out again as soon as you can think of it, the idea being that you are "massaging" your intestines to get them working sooner.

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Thank you for saying this as I wasn't sure how to, I am sure for some women, the pain described is "just scar tissue" but- my OB wrote mine off as that, and it was truly my window happening, of course, I was 34 weeks the first time I felt it, but- I would think a level 2 US could give some idea if there has been thinning of the uterus in the area the pain was (mine was on my right side, and ftr- I had no scar tissue at all). I would call my Dr. and be certain that they address this concern. Also- my window happened before any true labor, so- be sure to consider what Braxton Hicks could do.

I hate to be a scaremonger, but- I am finally seeing from other mama's stories how differently things could've gone for me and my baby.
Yes, I don't mean to "scare" people...I just want them to be informed. because I was not. I thought uterine rupture was just for ppl who attempted vbacs.My ob never told me about rupturing otherwise or even checked my scar tissue... I thought we were safe...I just want to educate as many mamas who deliver via c section about uterine rupture as it is deadly. If I wouldve known then what I know now, Alexis would probably be here today. We are ttc #4 and we will be walking on eggshells making sure this pregnancy is a smooth one . jks06457, be sure to perform daily kick counts and be sure to monitor your baby as delivery draws closer. If you think you are having too many bhs...go to the er, don't wait.

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I think I found here, the advice to pull in your stomach and back out again as soon as you can think of it, the idea being that you are "massaging" your intestines to get them working sooner.
i did this with both of mine-my mom was told by her mom what it helped and it really did. we just have genetic sections in our family!! kind of funny since i predicted my first.
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