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#61 of 68 Old 06-21-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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So, according to this, it's more likely with Forceps that you'll need more traction (or pulls) applied than with VE. Also, if you opt for VE, 68.4% of the time it will be successful in the first couple tries. And that kind of alleviated my "selfish" feelings about opting for VE because it might be easier on me.

Just thought some of you might want to know...

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I know women with extensive rectum and perenium damage from the episiotomies that come with forceps. I think that is important to consider in the decision as well.
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I know women with extensive rectum and perenium damage from the episiotomies that come with forceps. I think that is important to consider in the decision as well.
But not all Dr's perform episiotomies immediately when using forceps or the vacuum. My situation was quite urgent - Dr. was going to give one try with the forceps and then it was C/S due to serious decels in my DD's heartrate (she had her umbilical cord wrapped tightly around her neck 4 times which was preenting her decent), she never once mentioned an episiotomy.
While I am sure that there are many Dr's who will immediately perform one, don't assume that this is always the case.
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Your blood pressure was dropping? Were you on any meds? Were you hydrated?

That seems unusual to me, but perhaps there's something there I'm not understanding.

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no medication, we had a epdurakl a few hours -- earlier in the day -- but it had been off a long time. turned it back on for the forcepts.

I was drinking water and juice and able to sweat. I also had eaten a decent meal, while on teh epdural, about 6 hours before, and was still eating honey sticks and pop cicyles while pushing.

Don't know.

that is what happened and why we made the choice we did ....

i think the most importnat this is to remember -- there is never an "every time answer" eveything depends on sooooooooooooo many varaibles.

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I know women with extensive rectum and perenium damage from the episiotomies that come with forceps. I think that is important to consider in the decision as well.
Thanks for the validation - I was starting to feel really selfish. But I've heard of women with both types of incontinence issues and major sexual problems after asst delivery, and even after rough vag deliveries. I want what's best for BOTH baby and me.

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I want what's best for BOTH baby and me.
i think that HAS to be the goal -- there may be some give and take -- but one can not be scarficed for the other.... it is a delacte balanceing act.

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this argument can be made either way

-- a mom feeling bad for chooseing forcepts to save herself a CS like i did

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-- a mom chooseing a a cs to maybe make it easier on teh baby at the risk of herself......

all decisions have to be made at the time, based on so many varaibles and what is "best" for both at the tiem

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But not all Dr's perform episiotomies immediately when using forceps or the vacuum. My situation was quite urgent - Dr. was going to give one try with the forceps and then it was C/S due to serious decels in my DD's heartrate (she had her umbilical cord wrapped tightly around her neck 4 times which was preenting her decent), she never once mentioned an episiotomy.
While I am sure that there are many Dr's who will immediately perform one, don't assume that this is always the case.
The standard of care is still an episiotomy so it is something women need to keep in mind. Many women aren't even given an opportunity to consent. I was almost given an episiotomy for no reason and the only thing that saved me was my nurse telling my doctor no. So while you had a doctor that waited I had one that didn't and was willing to give me one without consent.
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But not all Dr's perform episiotomies immediately when using forceps or the vacuum. My situation was quite urgent - Dr. was going to give one try with the forceps and then it was C/S due to serious decels in my DD's heartrate (she had her umbilical cord wrapped tightly around her neck 4 times which was preenting her decent), she never once mentioned an episiotomy.
While I am sure that there are many Dr's who will immediately perform one, don't assume that this is always the case.

The standard of care is still an episiotomy so it is something women need to keep in mind. Many women aren't even given an opportunity to consent. I was almost given an episiotomy for no reason and the only thing that saved me was my nurse telling my doctor no. So while you had a doctor that waited I had one that didn't and was willing to give me one without consent.
Our doctor talked to us -- and he wasn't even our doc -- the back up for the CNM we were birthing with ..... he did not do any cutting, however i did have a 4th degree tear.

I would say -- just talk about it up front......."what are you conformtabel with F or V and why and when" and go from there......our OB is big on telling me he can't read my mind and no two moms are the same.....

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i would go with a vacuum extraction given those choices. i found creating your own birth plan, by m. wagner, to be helpful on this point. also simkin's and sears' books on birth.
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