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Gumby's Avatar Gumby 02:09 PM 07-03-2007
Are the two related? Or is this an old wives tale I heard somewhere?

lyttlewon's Avatar lyttlewon 03:21 PM 07-03-2007
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Originally Posted by BrittanySmiles View Post
Are the two related? Or is this an old wives tale I heard somewhere?
Are you saying you are a red head or are you talking about birthing a red head? My sister is a red head and didn't have hemmorage issues birthing my neice and my mom didn't have any birthing her either.
lunamegn's Avatar lunamegn 08:23 PM 07-03-2007
Yeah, if you're talking about a red head mother then I have to say that I've never had a problem with hemorrhaging.
sophi4ka's Avatar sophi4ka 08:30 PM 07-03-2007
I also have red hair and my midwife said that I might be at a higher risk for hemorrhaging from her experience.
Also, I read that from Ayurveda perspective there is a link between red headed people and hemorrhaging.
junamoss's Avatar junamoss 01:15 AM 07-04-2007
I find that they bleed a little extra. I am diligent with the red headed pp checks.
dove's Avatar dove 01:23 AM 07-04-2007
i'm red headed and hemorrhaged badly. both a quick hemorrhage right away and a slow pp hemorrhage...and i had a peaceful (but long) non-interventional, non hospital birth...

my mom, who is her father's clone (blonde, tans easily, green eyes), did not x 4 natural births.
her mom, who is a red head, did for 2 out of 2 births.
her mom's mom, also a red head, died of a slow pp hemorrhage.

as a practitioner myself, i have noticed that a certain hair/skin/eye combo seems to hemorrhage ...i do keep an eye on women who have this coloring...
e.naomisandoval's Avatar e.naomisandoval 01:25 AM 07-04-2007
I bled both births. Every midwife I've questioned about it says this seems true to her. Still, purely anectodal...
MsElle07's Avatar MsElle07 01:45 PM 07-04-2007
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
A&A's Avatar A&A 01:46 PM 07-04-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Interesting...........I'm red-headed and left-handed but no hemorrhaging.
fruitful womb's Avatar fruitful womb 02:06 PM 07-04-2007
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Marlet's Avatar Marlet 02:09 PM 07-04-2007
My sister is a red head and we've talked about this one before. She has found that she doesn't neccessarily bleed more just heavier (does that make sense? )
caricandothis's Avatar caricandothis 02:21 PM 07-04-2007
My SIL is red-headed and her drs told her that when she was in labor with my niece. I was there when she birthed her and was nervous for her but she did fine, didn't hemmorage at all (thank God!).

That is very interesting about the eczema though...she does have bad eczema! I'll have to tell her that! My dd is also a red-head (see link in my siggy ) and she does tend to bleed a little more than my non-red-heads and she has eczema as well.
lyttlewon's Avatar lyttlewon 04:15 PM 07-04-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Interesting...my sister doesn't have any of those traits. Maybe that is why she didn't have bleeding issues. I bled way worse than her. She has always been a terrible bruiser.
gretasmommy's Avatar gretasmommy 04:19 PM 07-04-2007
Another red haired mom, told by my midwife that she would be on the look out for hemorrhaging . . . .fortunately I had no troubles with bleeding unusually. I do tend to have very heavy periods, though.
kittywitty's Avatar kittywitty 04:19 PM 07-04-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Hey, that's me! Well, I am right handed and my hair isn't "red" but it is quite copper and there are a lot of red headed and left handed people in my family.

I bled a lot during my first two births and actually seized with my son.
Gumby's Avatar Gumby 06:56 PM 07-04-2007
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Are you saying you are a red head or are you talking about birthing a red head? My sister is a red head and didn't have hemmorage issues birthing my neice and my mom didn't have any birthing her either.
Yeah I meant red-headed genes for mama (well, baby too I guess). I'm not red-headed per se (auburn a bit) but my aunt is, my mom kind of is (if she wouldn't color her hair), gramma yes, so I have the genes.

I hemorrhaged badly even though I took nearly every precaution possible while pg.

That's interesting what you say MsElle, there's also a lot of left-handedness in my mom's family.

My mw mentioned that she had noticed a correlation and I thought I had read it somewhere.
AngieB's Avatar AngieB 09:19 PM 07-04-2007
I have a friend who is a redhead and she said that when she went to the hospital to give birth the nurses all said. "oh, we have a redhead get the blood ready for transfusion." But she didn't have any problems.
MsElle07's Avatar MsElle07 11:22 AM 07-05-2007
Having an out of hospital birth with an unmanaged third stage and immediate BFing will definitely help limit excessive bleeding.

At my most recent birth, the baby was born (9+lbs, so a large placental site), the placenta birthed spontaneously, no uterine massage, just lots of skin to skin and nursing right away, and I had very very little bleeding. Contrast that with my second birth with a smaller baby: immediate nursing/skin to skin, but the MW did cord traction and messed around with the placenta. Lots and lots of bleeding, requiring pitocin and was a borderline hemmorhage.
mwherbs's Avatar mwherbs 04:01 PM 07-05-2007
haven't read a study to the effect-- and in my experience Native Americans atleast from the regions I have lived in -have a higher incidence of hemorrhage-
maybe it had to do with in the past women who cultivated very pale skin and were unhealthy and example would be eating arsenic -- also there is the very poor/starving aspect of the Irish and Scots that may have had an impact in the past---
here is a link to an abstract --
http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/...ract/102/1/313
Clarinet's Avatar Clarinet 04:12 PM 07-05-2007
I'm a red-head and no one ever told me this. My first birth was fine. Bleeding after my second was a bit concerning but not what I would call a hemmorhage. I was on an IV for several hours and they checked me often. I felt very run-down, moreso then my first, but not faint or anything.

I'm not left-handed but I do have a high tolerance to anesthesia and sensitive skin.
nimblemama's Avatar nimblemama 06:44 PM 07-05-2007
I have read that "redheads bleed". My friend, who is a strawberry blonde, hemmorhaged with her first birth, but was okay with her second. My brother, who has reddish hair, has eczema and is left-handed. My dd (who is 3) has red hair and fair, fair skin. People always mention that she must have sensitive skin, but she has never had skin issues, and only a few diaper rashes. My son, who is blonde and has slighter darker skin than dd, has had more baby skin issues than his sister.
kittywitty's Avatar kittywitty 12:17 AM 07-09-2007
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Originally Posted by mwherbs View Post
haven't read a study to the effect-- and in my experience Native Americans atleast from the regions I have lived in -have a higher incidence of hemorrhage-
maybe it had to do with in the past women who cultivated very pale skin and were unhealthy and example would be eating arsenic -- also there is the very poor/starving aspect of the Irish and Scots that may have had an impact in the past---
here is a link to an abstract --
http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/...ract/102/1/313
Thanks for that. Interesting stuff.
lizabird's Avatar lizabird 11:13 PM 07-16-2007
My midwife seemed to think red heads were more prone to excess bleeding. My mom (redhead) lost a lot of blood after me and had to stay in the hospital for a week after giving birth to me (for blood loss complications). My great grandmother (redhead) died of post partum hemmorage. I got the pitocin shot right after I gave birth to ds1 (given my family history, I agreed with the midwife to do this) and still bled quite a lot, but not enough to be considered dangerous. So, I don't know if it's a wivestale or not, but I certainly do havea family history of both redheadedness and post partum hemmorage. (I have red hair too).
2sweetboysmom's Avatar 2sweetboysmom 04:37 AM 07-17-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Auburn-red hair here:
-right handed but really coordinated with left hand too
-Very high tolerance for pain meds ( I was 25 before I knew that it was possible to not feel pain at the dentist)
-Dry sensitive skin and eczema
-No hemorage or heaver than normal bleeding
zoeyzoo's Avatar zoeyzoo 08:26 PM 07-17-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Interesting... do you have to be a red head or can this happen if it runs in families? My grandmother was a red head and most of my cousins on that side of the family are red heads.

Does it tend to follow on side of the family like the mother or the father like some genes?
Artisan's Avatar Artisan 10:51 PM 07-17-2007
You have to inherit a mutated copy of the gene that causes redheadedness from BOTH parents in order to be a redhead/have redhead characteristics.
thefreckledmama's Avatar thefreckledmama 04:05 PM 07-18-2007
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Originally Posted by MsElle07 View Post
The reason this is true (for many readheads, not all) is because the gene that causes red headedness tends to travel with other genes, such as the gene for left handedness, a high tolerance for anesthesia medications (meaning you need more of them to become numb), sensitive skin/eczema, and a tendency to bleed more than others.
Yep. That's me with exception to the bleeding. I've never had a problem with any bleeding out of the ordinary, after birth or otherwise. As for the anesthesia thing-SO TRUE for me. Locals rarely if ever work, and only in excessive doses. I usually just have to be knocked out. As a matter of fact, when my OB was getting ready to stitch me up after my 2nd, and was 'pinching' me to see if I needed anything, and I said I could feel it, and she said, "I figured you would,...I usually need a little extra with my redheaded moms." I'm glad she realized it because when I was 14 I had to get stitches in my thumb, and the stupid rag of a doctor basically said I was lying when I said I could feel it after she numbed it, and said there was no possible way. Let me tell you, I felt EVERYTHING.

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Originally Posted by 2sweetboysmom View Post
Auburn-red hair here:
-right handed but really coordinated with left hand too
-Very high tolerance for pain meds ( I was 25 before I knew that it was possible to not feel pain at the dentist)
-Dry sensitive skin and eczema
-No hemorage or heaver than normal bleeding
That's me too, except for the eczema.
mrskennedy's Avatar mrskennedy 06:37 PM 07-18-2007
Not true for me. I'm the reddest redhead you've ever seen--bright red, and fair-skinned and I didn't hemorrhage. Felt fine after birth, but knew I couldn't get up and run a marathon or anything like that. BTW, I'm also right-handed (not left), and I don't bleed easily or need more anesthesia than others. No dry skin. High tolerance for pain--bring it on!--but not the meds.
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