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#31 of 48 Old 01-16-2008, 07:54 PM
 
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Do you think it has to do with domestication? I'm really not trying to be argumentative...I'm honestly curious
That would be my guess. As an example, wolves (to whom dogs are genetically nearly identical) make great fathers, but dogs seem to have no paternal instinct at all.
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What about other herbivores. Do they eat their placentas?

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The link I posted above claims that most mammals (with the exception of camels, whales/dolphins, seals/walruses) do eat their placentas. Someone please correct me if this is incorrect. I'm multi-tasking atm....

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The fact that animals eat their placentas might indicate that it has health benefits, but it is not really relevant to the decision of humans to eat or not eat it. Humans may be almost the only mammals who do not eat their placentas, but we are also almost the only mammals who do not have sex with their own parents and siblings. "Animals do it" is not necessarily a compelling argument.
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I would think that the suggestion it has health benefits is relevent.
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I raise dairy goats and they eat their placentas.

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It is vegan, just like milk from the same species, freely given is vegan. The "no animal products" definition of veganism is a dictionary generalization, not the actual definition given by actual vegans (unless they're using shorthand when talking to the clueless).
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Well; I have to say: there have been some pretty DISGUSTING responses here. I laughed my head off.

So I guess we've determined that it may or may not be cannibalism.

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I don't know, is eating your fingernails or skin cannibalism? Chewing the skin off your lips?

I dunno

Maybe it only counts as cannibalism if you are eating someone else's body parts, not your own. Hmm. Not sure.
It's actually not your body part. It's created by the fetus, so it's really your baby's organ that they don't need anymore. And some cultures consider chewing your nails to be cannibalism.

In any case, if you want to eat it, go ahead. I'm sure it has many health benefits, but I can't stand eating any organ meats. It's cannibalism, just acceptable cannibalism.
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It's actually not your body part. It's created by the fetus.
?? Because the genetic code for the placenta is part of the chromosomes in the egg and sperm?
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As someone currently ingesting my daughters placenta and a supporter of the practice, I want to provide you all with a link that has a tremendous about of information on the topic.

http://www.placentabenefits.info/
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So, I was reading this thread about eating placenta; and DP and I were discussing how some people on here think it's gross and some people (especially those who've eaten theirs) say that it's extremely beneficial. I said I don't think I could do it; so DP said "I'll eat it" : .......ok. So he gets into thought for a few seconds, then asks "is that like cannibalism?" ....and, well, I don't know. Is it? You are eating a piece of human being, afterall.

Your thoughts?

ETA: This question is not meant to offend anyone. We were just thinking and wondering.
Technically, yes. Autocannibalism, anyway. Like a liver or a heart, the placenta is an organ (albeit a temporary organ) that you grew inside you, so yes.
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?? Because the genetic code for the placenta is part of the chromosomes in the egg and sperm?
Because at the early stages of development, the fetus and the placenta were all part of the same body. At one point, the embryo "divides" into fetus and placenta, connected by the umbilical cord. It is part of the baby's body, not the mother's
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Because at the early stages of development, the fetus and the placenta were all part of the same body. At one point, the embryo "divides" into fetus and placenta, connected by the umbilical cord. It is part of the baby's body, not the mother's

OK, here's a thought then:
If a placenta actually belongs to the FETUS, then is it "freely given" enough to be vegan? I mean, unless the fetus gives it to you...


I find this very interesting.
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Because at the early stages of development, the fetus and the placenta were all part of the same body. At one point, the embryo "divides" into fetus and placenta, connected by the umbilical cord. It is part of the baby's body, not the mother's
No, when it's an embryo it's already separated from the placenta, before that it's a zygote. Then the embryo develops into the fetus and thus to the baby.

Zygotes are just cells, they might go on to make a baby or they might fail and end up in a diva cup.

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TIME PERIOD: 4 days post - ovulation

About four days after fertilization, the morula enters the uterine cavity. Cell division continues, and a cavity known as a blastocele forms in the center of the morula. Cells flatten and compact on the inside of the cavity while the zona pellucida remains the same size. With the appearance of the cavity in the center, the entire structure is now called a blastocyst.

The presence of the blastocyst indicates that two cell types are forming: the embryoblast (inner cell mass on the inside of the blastocele), and the trophoblast (the cells on the outside of the blastocele).
By day four it's different cells involved in the embryo and in the placenta, and there was never a question of the placenta cells being anything other than a structure to transmit nutrients from mother to baby.

If anything, it's no one's organ, any more than a yolk is an organ of a chick.
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But, the fertilized egg contains all of the material from which both the baby and the placenta arise. The placenta and the baby essentially come from those 2 cells (the ovum and the sperm).

The placenta really is rightfully 'the baby's' when it comes down to genetics.

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But, the fertilized egg contains all of the material from which both the baby and the placenta arise. The placenta and the baby essentially come from those 2 cells (the ovum and the sperm).

The placenta really is rightfully 'the baby's' when it comes down to genetics.
But the majority of materials that go into the placenta come from mom's uterus, that's what that nice cushy blood lining is for. Eating a placenta is just like licking the blood off your finger after a paper cut.

Well, unless you think uterine blood is automatically unclean because of it's relation to menstruation.
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I know this may be offtopic, but the placenta comes from the trophoblast of the blastocyst. The blood that comes with birth is (under normal circumstances) the mother's, but that is because it is from the uterine wall where the placenta was attached.

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