Like, "This won't affect the baby at all." as they administer a narcotic....:
Any good ones out there?
"I'm afraid that your cervix is going to start swelling."
After 24 hours of labor, in mid-contraction, I heard "I'm afraid that your cervix has started swelling."
I give into the epidural and pitocin, crying about it like a baby.
Only when in Birthing from Within class 3 years later, with my doula present, due to the damage that this birth experience did to me, did I realise what had actually been said. I also drew pictures of closed doors and people whispering, and my doula then confirmed that the nurses and doctors were talking about me outside the door, deciding how to manipulate me into the managed birth that I was refusing. It was a calculated strategy to get me to give in.
I still fantasize about contacting them and telling them how bad I feel about it, eight years on. I am still so angry, as my birth was stolen from me. I hate those nurses so vehemently for what they did to me. But of course, I had a healthy baby, so it was all justified.
in reference to BP, amidst me arguing how stupid this was "140/99 is EXTREMELY high blood pressure, we need to get that baby out now!"
I continued to argue the point that 1 high blood pressure read (and one not necessarily high enough) does not indicate Pre E and I wasn't going to submit to induction or planned c-sec... OB looks to my husband and says "She's KILLING your child by giving birth vaginally"
I allowed them to monitor me, if thats what would make them feel better... never repeated and elevated BP, but was forced to do NST's while laying flat on my back: "Your baby had a decel during the braxton hicks... surely, your baby will never handle labor" Once again, said to my husband, not me.
I walked into a hospital 5 hours later for my scheduled c-sec to make my husband stop crying hysterically. Baby was taken at 38 weeks. I stayed home for the 2nd one.
Two years later I had an eight pounder...with no damage to my pelvis whatsoever.
Sometimes I just feel sorry for the medical establishment....living in that much fear cannot possibly be fun.
"There's no way you can be far enough along to push," and then, "You need to get out of the tub NOW so I can check you, we don't want to give birth in the water after all!"
I was also told, "We are going to break your water." Not, we'd like to do this, just, we are.
and Brigid Eleanor (11/20/08)
Three years ago next week, we were a victim of those very lies. And I wish people would finally be a little more honest about the risks of pitocin...it's NOT safe.
"Pitocin isn't really that bad, women just think its bad because they're in the hospital already" (It makes a great argument for hb)
I've got lots on the on-call OB who actually caught her
"Stop making noise, its counter productive for your pushes"
"Don't breathe before we stop counting to ten, you need to push for the full count, it doesn't matter that you feel you're going to pass out. We'll just have you lay down flat on your back and give you oxygen between your contractions (but not during them). Oops, it looks like your baby is having decelerations, (looks to my dh) We need to give her the IV you declined in case we have to get this baby out fast, she'll need some drugs" (This was two pushes before she was born)
"Push through the ring of fire"
"Let me know if you start feeling me stitching you up and I'll give you another local" When I said I felt it she said "I'm almost done" No more local.
"Ok, so there goes your water..." ie, she broke it without my knowledge or consent
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If you don't get the Vitamin K shot your baby will die.
The eye ointment protects against all sorts of bacteria - STDs, GBS, everything baby comes in contact with.
Vaginal exams don't increase the risk of infection. (said after SROM)
Keith, Henry and Caroline
your uterus will rupture if you attempt a VBAC
we have to take your baby early Dec. (ONE MONTH before his birth date of 1/1) or you could die
i dont know of others off the top of my head. those are the ones that keep me away from OB's.
"Your pelvis is misshapen."
"Your pelvis is very, very small."
"You probably couldn't ever birth a baby bigger than 6 pounds."
"If this were the 1800s, both you and your baby would have died."
"We don't know how you had a cervical laceration" (you effing DID IT TO ME during surgery)
"If you try a VBAC, your cervical scar will split open again."
.....Fast forward to me birthing a 8 lb. 4 oz. baby at home. with no lasting complications. Mmmmkay then!
After 9 hours of labor during transition when I was 7-8 centimeters they said, " You need to consider having an epidural or a C-Section," I became hysterical and consented to an epidural that I still regret.
And that's only two of the stupid things they said to me in labor.
"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~ George Orwell
To which I repeatedly replied, I am breastfeeding, this helps my milk come in better, and it's better for her and me. We have a good latch. We do not need a pacifier!
They thought I was really weird.
This from a woman who had an elective c-section.
The next time I saw her was to tell her I had switched to another practice.
then they gave her, knowing she had a history of drug abuse morphine and a LOT of it and said theres nothing contradictory in that.
THEN the circ stuff in the pamphlets were lies and they never told her a risk of an epi is paralysis. wasnt in the consent form at all! i said it, she was told i was nuts, they kicked me out and got her to sign it. uhh..duh, something going IN YOUR SPINE has the possibility of paralyzing you.
if i didnt get an epi, id be begging later and be sorry
got told that i was pushing way too long. and she put the vacuum cup in her hand entirely and just shoved. wow that wasnt fun. SHE ripped me, not my son! (only needed a couple stitches, and theres no problems from it, but still!) she said either push NOW or she was using it and got a nurse to bring the machine to her. i pushed SEVEN TIMES TOTAL! it was 3 or 4 when she did this. how the bloody flippin *$(# is that too long? i know they were mad my contractions werent on top of each other making me push solidly and i refused to push when not contracting ( i said "no, wait, im not having one" a few times and got irrtated looks and huffs and signs and tapping feet) but geez.
that he had brown hair, and no way could it be red (yeah this still has me baffled 3.5 years later...i was looking at the kids head and was like...uhh..no, its red. its definitely red! no way could you think this is brown!)
i asked if they had anything but the pit. she looked shocked i knew the difference and had a problem and said cytotec, my choice. i said NO WAY and she said theres nothing wrong with it, among other things. right. she ended up giving me a foley while the pit was really low because i *really* didnt want the pit at all, and i hoped that would work to start my own labor, but nope and then they cranked it up anyway without letting me wait a bit to see :sigh:
he would have a brain bleed and die if i didnt submit to the vit k
then that if i didnt get the screening test, hed die for sure
THEN if i didnt get the hearing test that hed be deaf (wth?)
ill still think i know ive posted a few more.
When I asked my doc if I could do intermittant monitoring she said "that's something you just read about on the internet... no one actually does that". (Actually that might not have been a lie... hardly anyone here does do that.)
At 36 weeks she said I should be scheduled for induction at 38 weeks just because. I refused. At 40 weeks she checked me and I was c/t/h... she said "well, you certainly can't be induced now... you're cervix is completely closed". Hmmm... but I could have been induced at 38weeks? Funny how that works... I think she thought it would be punishing me because surely I would be desperate to get the baby out by 40 weeks.
"You won't want to move around in labor. No one likes to move when they are in hard labor." And of course I didn't move. I was hooked up to an iv, bp cuff, and fetal monitors.
Second birth was much better. No lies.
"Pitocin is the exact same thing as the hormone your body produces, we're just giving you a little kickstart.... No, no, it's the exact same... where do you read this stuff? The Internet?... no, the contractions are the exact same as natural ones..."
Now that *is* a blatant lie. If I had been there, I would have argued so much with him.
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I was induced at 42 weeks. My midwife works for an OB one day a week, so I transferred to her practice. Ricci (my midwife) apparently told everyone at the hospital that I was a nurse and a midwifery student, I know my stuff, and don't even bother feeding me the rhetoric, because I'll know they're BS-ing me.
: I LOVE MY MIDWIFE! :
(I'm neither a nurse, nor a midwifery student, by the way...)
The OB told me when I was in recovery that I was a c-sec all day long for any other doctor. I had the hospital bending rules to make SURE I could go vaginally. 37 hours of labor, man. That was some hard going.
- L&D nurse, in response to my request to be in any other position BESIDES my back
Argued feebly but was too far in laborland to haul myself into another position without help. Tore fairly badly that time. I tore much less with #2 where I lay on my side to push, thanks to my midwives.
To be fair, that 1st L&D nurse was pretty supportive - considering her mainstream hospital/OB context - on almost all the rest of my birth plan, so I think she may have been genuinely ignorant not technically *lying*.
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