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#1 of 19 Old 11-05-2004, 06:13 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Textbooks in Texas changed to define marriage as between man and woman

Hope kids using these books never travel to Massachusets or Canada, they'll go into a state of shock.
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boy are they paranoid, as if that is going to change anything
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The thing that gets me is that the publishers (HOlt, Rinehart, Winston and Glencoe/McGraw-Hill) are changing their books completely. The books with the original neutral language will not be available, even for other states.
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This is par for the course for Texas and textbooks. Every year the debate arises over textbooks and what should be in them. Should we teach just evolution? Or should we teach creationism along with evolution? What, if anything, should we teach in sex-"ed" classes, and how? Yada yada yada. Every year, the fundies get thrown some bone or other, if not more. It's yet another reason that, if we remain in this state long enough, I do not want my daughter attending the public schools here.
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I want to know how to find which titles are included and which school districts will be using them, since it won't be consfined to TX. And why does TX school board get to dictate textbook content for the rest of us anyway? Because they've done such a *splendid* job with education?
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This is one of my all time hot button issues. Not just in this respect, but how PC textbooks are (and have been for a long time) It is such propaganda.

How many kids will go home and say, "the teacher said marriage is just for a man and a woman. it's even in the book"

I was horrified to see my daughters' 4th grade history book. Everything was so happy and shiny. HELLO! That's what really turned me over to homeschooling. There's no way I'm raising my kids to think our government only does good and never hurts people. (like I was taught)

whoa nelly, I'm getting off track now.
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What do you want to bet that before long, we evolution will be replaced by creationism in textbooks?
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That's actually being worked on very seriously. When I searched for the link above (I orig heard it on the radio) I found all sorts of websites about how TX school are trying to get all kinds of scientific and "PC" things out of school textbooks.
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How many kids will go home and say, "the teacher said marriage is just for a man and a woman. it's even in the book"

I was horrified to see my daughters' 4th grade history book. Everything was so happy and shiny. HELLO! That's what really turned me over to homeschooling.


Textbooks are basically useless. I would not want my child to believe love and LT relationaships/marriage is only for people of opposite sexes. Crap really.

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I think that marriage should be defined as the union between a hamster and a prairie chicken. That'll show 'em!

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maybe Lies My Teacher Told Me should be a required textbook too?
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I was horrified to see my daughters' 4th grade history book. Everything was so happy and shiny. HELLO! That's what really turned me over to homeschooling. There's no way I'm raising my kids to think our government only does good and never hurts people. (like I was taught)
Well I'll join you. Off track that is.
My extended family and many of their friends are the sort of liberal, public school advocates that cringe when I mention charter schools and think homeschooling is for parents that don't want their kids to learn about Darwin. Funny thing is that most of the homeschoolers I know, myself included, are homeschooling for the very reasons you've brought up here, and the OP brought up with that textbook. Scary, isn't it?
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maybe Lies My Teacher Told Me should be a required textbook too?
Yep. I mentioned this earlier, but imagine the shock and disgust I felt when reading about how Hawaii was really won, how the Phillipino people were really treated, and how America really dealt with Japanese American citizens during WWII. :Puke
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Problem solved!

Hey, that was easy.
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And why does TX school board get to dictate textbook content for the rest of us anyway?
Money, of course. Texas is a big state with lots of schoolchildren. Publishers want their textbooks to sell in Texas, so they rewrite them to make them "acceptable" to the religious fundamentalists. *All the major publishers do this, so the rest of the U.S. ends up with health texts that don't mention contaception, science books that include creationism, and now texts that define marriage as being between a man and a woman.
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Problem solved!

Hey, that was easy.


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No, gay marriage does not legitimize being gay. The marriage contract (license) issued by the government in no way confers any sort of moral approval on the people entering into the contract. You go in, sign a paper - they don't care who you are or why you're doing it.

And having a civil marriage contract in hand doesn't mean the local synagogue or church would agree to solemnize the marriage.

We live in a pluralistic society - in some religious faiths gays are welcome, they are married, and are 'legitimate' couples. Gay marriage isn't about getting one's particular church or moral system to bend to 'legitimate' gay married couples. Gay civil marriage is about contractual rights and benefits in a pluralistic society. Anything less is discrimination. As to the moral 'legitimation' of gay marriage, that is a matter for the churches.
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I can't pull up your article now, so I can't remember if it covered this, but I just ran across this story, also about textbooks in Texas. This time, they're going for sex ed books that teach abstinence only, and make little to no mention of contraceptives:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/08...extbooks.reut/
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