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I'm in the middle of writing a piece on cloth diapers and I wanted to address the other side. Real reasons/problems/etc against cloth. The more specific you could be that would be great. I'm aware of the biggies, like laundry, pins, plastic pants.

I would love to hear about your experiences if you tried cloth and then switched.

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We tried cloth with my first but switched to EC. Love it!
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Plain and simple I don't have the time, energy, or desire to use cloth.
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I used cloth for my first two children and for the first 4 months for my third. Since then I've been using disposables because they are easier and leak less and many of my cloth diapers got to the point where they were worn out and I didn't want to reinvest in more. The kids nighttime diapers were really difficult to get absorbent enough so we switched to disposables at night and it was too tempting to grab them during the day too, especially for my husband.
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We tried cloth with my first but switched to EC. Love it!
ECers don't count. Let me tackle one subject at a time!

we part time EC We both WOH FT but are trying!

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I've used both, mainly cloth. I love cloth diapers. But the biggest issue I ran into was the bulkiness of my diaper bag if I was going to be out for most of the day. It made me kind of crazy. 3 or 4 diapers and I am carrying a suitcase around. Those days I was very tempted to just grab a few disposables.

Also, if were going to be in area/situation where I wouldn't be able to change as often or pack around a dirty diaper I would grab sposies.

But the bulkiness of the diaper bag was the biggest downside for me.
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i only use cloth when i have one child in diapers at a time. when it's two kids at once, it is just too overwhelming and we switch to disposables. i wish i had the time and energy to have two in cloth at once but i just don't.
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Plain and simple I don't have the time, energy, or desire to use cloth.
can you elaborate? what is your lack of desire like? Do you think cloth is too crunchy? Over hyped? Hard to get into? What kind of time and energy do you think goes into it? (I know tone is hard to read and this could come off as snarky, but I really am just trying to get some actual talking points from the 'other side'. I am totally blinded by the fluffy fever! My piece would be horrible lopsided verging on the point of unbelievable if I didn't have your thoughts to hit on!)

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We used cloth exclusively from the time our LO was 6 months until she was about 18 months. I just got sick of changing her diaper every 20 minutes. She drinks a ton of water, and it was making me crazy! She would wake up 3-4 times a night because of leaking. I got tired of the stress and the issues over DIAPERS. It was wonderful while it lasted!
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I'm hardcore cloth to the extreme.. to the extent of packing an entire extra suitcase when we travel, just for diapers :

anyway, one thing I can think of that might turn lots of people off is how much research has to go into it! Theres SO many brands and types. prefolds, covers, fitteds, contours, aios, pockets, one size, pocket aios... then plain and simple, some work well, some don't work well. some are expensive, some are pretty cheap. they all have such vastly different fits and different babies are going to fit better in differen't ones. hook/loop, snaps, side snaps.. and wet bags, liners, inserts, doublers, snappis, washing routines, detergent, repelling, stinky build up, stripping.. rash creams that are safe for cloth, night time solutions that work for a heavy wetter, wool, wool wash, lanolizing!!! For us experienced cloth users, its pretty easy to keep it all straight, but I can see how the learning curve might intimidate less adventurous newbies who might find it easier to simply choose between huggies and pampers!!

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I got into CD with my second baby when she was 10 months old and fully planned to CD my third.

Except that my newborn HATED cloth and would freak out and wake up any time she wet it. With 2 other young kids to take care of, it just wasn't worth it to me. I've tried again from time to time and she just doesn't do well with it. I'd rather have a baby who sleeps.

So I'm in the process of getting ready to sell my stash. I don't think I'll even bother if we have a 4th.

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We ended up doing both if that counts any? Around about a year my DD got a horrible yeast type diaper rash (it happens) but sadly it got worse and warped into a staph infection. After that she seemed extrememly prone to rashes more so than ever before. We went on a quest to find the perfect nighttime diaper as that was our problem area leaks no but rash wise.. Thats when we discovered her new super sensitive skin meant no more poly fabrics fleece and such seemed to just cut right through her skin... So after a long trail and error we finially found a sposie at night and cloth (prefolds and cotton fitted) by day was our best combo. She jsut needed the ultra dry effect sposies gave when I couldn't change her 12 times a night.
For personal reasons we actually plan to see if this system will work on our next baby right from the start. In the end it was for us the simplist and best of both worlds.

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living in an apt and having to use a laundromate.

plus my then dh didnt want to use cloth. too much trouble for him. we tried a diaper service. but it was a hassle for him.

so ended up using sposies.

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They just don't fit. DD is very petite and was from birth. She has skinny little legs and extremely narrow hips. To give you an idea of how narrow, she is now 12 months but is wearing size 3mo pants (as shorts, lol).

I planned on using cloth from early on, did tons of research, and I invested a lot of money ($300) into a good stash. I was really dissapointed when she was born and I put the diapers on her, they litterally made her lay lopsided no matter how I folded them. So, we went out and got some disposables hoping she would grow into the ones we have. She hasn't.

We've tried different kinds but I have not found a cloth diaper that doesnt make her look like she's wearing an innertube.

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the year was 1996 -

Cloth can be very expensive. I didn't have the money to get a stash going before she came and I certainly didn't have any money after she came.

There is a lot of cloth snobbery I encountered. and the crazy amount of hype. all the stuff people think you need to research. its like if they make it crazy complicated it makes them that much better. I don't know. people spending $200 on A diaper was such a turn off to me. I was really proud of myself for using cloth and then people started talking down about gerber dipes and plastic pants (which worked just fine on all my children thankyouverymuch). Good heavens even my pins weren't up to par because they weren't dritz. and for the record my $.99 diaper pins lasted through 3 kids, stayed sharp, and never ever bent going in. they were far and away my favorites. it was seriously equated with abuse to use less than whatever the diaper de jour was. so I stopped for a while. I didn't want to hurt my kids with using evil pants and I didn't want to be associated with "those" people. it was so much craziness. The excitement and uppitiness and constant hashing out of details creeped me out. they were poop catchers for crying out loud. no need to get obsessive about it.

I hated the bulk. it was hard to find clothes that fit and I wanted my baby to be cute.


then came baby number 2.....it was the year 2000.

Screw everyone and their criticism. I was comfortable in my prefolds and plastic pants. and cheap pins. my friend tried to get me to use mother-ease but really $20 for a diaper and cover - scandalous. I couldn't do it. and she really made me feel bad about using my gerbers but I marched on. She could say what she wanted. I actually used cloth all the time. she petted hers and bragged about hers and put sposies on her baby.

but I didn't use disposables on her hardly at all. she was a really complicated baby who hated having her diaper changed from the day she was born until the day she potty trained so sometimes I would just get over whelmed and take diaper vacations. a week here or there with sposies. otherwise 100% cloth. but I don't care what anyone says. sposies are easier. so much easier in every way.

third baby came along - 2002 -
If the child felt the slightest drip of wetness she would wake up screaming. didn't care when she was awake. didn't care when she was potty training : but it was decidedly the end of the world if she was sleeping. so she wore disposables while she was sleeping.

I won't lie. I loooovvvveed the smell of pampers......loved it. its still like heaven to me.

Oh yeah and around a year she was walking funny. we thought one of her legs was decidedly shorter than the other. so we put her in disposables for the night once but a water pipe broke and while we were hanging out in the hallway of the hotel we noticed she was walking just fine. so we kept her in sposies for a while until she was walking a little better. the cautiously went back to cloth.



so three different kids. three different times. lots of different reasons for using disposables.

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Let me preface this by saying that I used cloth with DS1 for 18 months. We switched to sposies when he outgrew the diapering system that we were using (gDiaper covers with cloth inserts) and made the decision when we got pregnant with DS2 (1 month later) that we would not go back to cloth with him. It was for several reasons, mostly related to time. Time wasn't much of an issue with DS1, because I was a SAHM. Although I stay home now, we are transitioning me to being a full-time student (trying to get into pharmacy school). Time is a precious commodity ATM.

-With cloth, I was chaging diapers ~20 times a day (I can't let a kid sit in a wet diaper that *feels* wet). Sposies need to be changed way less often. This is the main reason. With two in diapers and nursing, that is ALL I would be doing all day. Nurse. Change diaper. Repeat.

-It takes longer to change a cloth diaper (the ones we had, anyway). We had to stuff the new diaper, wet down the cloth wipe, swish poopy dipes in the toilet. With sposies, I just put the thing on.

-We live in an apartment, and we don't use paper towels. So we already have a ton of laundry. At this point, I just can't add any more (or hog the machine any more).

-Like a PP mentioned, I hated having to haul what amounted to a suitcase if I wanted to run errands in order to contain all of the CDs. Eventually, I started using sposies when out, even with DS1.

-Another thing that a PP mentioned that drove me away - the bulk. I love buying cute kids' clothes, and when DS was past the age where onesies and babylegs were cute, sposies started to look a lot better. I couldn't fit cloth under jeans. I felt like I was restricting his movement and making him miserable.

I would love to be able to do cloth, but right now, it would just be one more thing. And in order to do school with a family and a DH that works two jobs, I have to eliminate some of the "one more things."

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I don't like to admit all these on here, but in the name of research, here you go:

I have 3 kids. With the first we used mostly cloth. Plastic when travelling, out, or she was sick.

My second got horrible rashes in cloth, not as much in plastic. So we went entirely with plastic with him.

With my third, we use cloth sometimes. We are out a lot of the day very often, and I don't like carrying dirty diapers around half the day. If we'll be mostly in, or only out for a couple of hours, then she gets cloth. You'd think the extra laundry would just feel like a drop in the bucket (it did with my second, no big deal), but I am just so drowning in it that it's kind of beyond me to take on the extra laundry that a full time CD regime would entail. I hate hate hate laundry. But part time. We can do part time. Sometimes.

I also really hate nursing poops with CDs. I find the whole process a lot easier and less annoying once they are mostly on solid foods. CDs also leak more than plastic(except for 7th generation- the plastic I mean are the hardcore Pampers, etc). They can get pretty good, but there's really no getting as good as those super engineered plastic things. Philosophically I really like CDing, but it's not always worth the trade offs in our family.
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We've taken a break from cloth at the moment because we don't have a washing machine and having to drag diapers to my aunt's house to wash was majorly stressing me out.
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and I won't lie. I loooovvvveed the smell of pampers......loved it. its still like heaven to me.
Pampers smell *just* like Cabbage Patch dolls. I love it, too.

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I use cloth now, with my second. With my DD1 I used a service for almost a year, and then we moved to a different state with no service. I was really excited about washing my own, but wasn't very exposed to it so I didn't know what I was doing. Bought some cheap (but pretty well made) flannel fitteds off of Ebay. I was combining disposables and cloth, and it didn't take too long before I ruined all of the diapers I had just purchased by leaving the pail too long. I don't want to go into too much detail, but they were ruined. I tried really hard to save them with crazy washing and bleach and it was a total failure. I felt foolish and out of money and
So I quit and went to sposies for the rest of her diapering days.
Now with DD2 I had service for 1 month, then did combo of prefolds and sposies, and then I found the diaper lust, and it's crazy, and I use cloth exclusively now.

And now I am, like you:

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I am totally blinded by the fluffy fever! My piece would be horrible lopsided verging on the point of unbelievable if I didn't have your thoughts to hit on!)
So to answer your original question I didn't because of lack of knowledge about washing techniques and lack of exposure to the awesome and cute stuff that is available. I think if one person had even asked why I didn't use cloth I would have thought about it and... started again.
Good luck with your paper. I am interested in the cloth from a business perspective as well so let me know when it's done so I can read it.
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Theres SO many brands and types. prefolds, covers, fitteds, contours, aios, pockets, one size, pocket aios... then plain and simple, some work well, some don't work well. some are expensive, some are pretty cheap. they all have such vastly different fits and different babies are going to fit better in differen't ones. hook/loop, snaps, side snaps.. and wet bags, liners, inserts, doublers, snappis, washing routines, detergent, repelling, stinky build up, stripping.. rash creams that are safe for cloth, night time solutions that work for a heavy wetter, wool, wool wash, lanolizing!!!
Yeah, I'd say that about covers it . It just seems too overwhelming to even start. I'm afraid I'd blow a bunch of money on stuff and then have it not be the right stuff. It just seems too complicated.

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I went to both extremes. DS wore almost exclusively CDs, even at night, until the day he was potty-trained at almost 3 y.o. Then came DD. Our house was under renovation, DH was working constantly, I had a toddler and a newborn, and I could not do it. I know a lot of moms on here do, but it really felt like the last straw. The researching, the buying, the washing, drying, folding, prepping them so they were ready, the diaper bag issue.

I felt really guilty, but sposies were SO much easier. DD is fully trained now, so the stash is donated, and I've moved on.

And for the record, I've never run out of sposies and had to make a midnight run to the drugstore. (I will always have a soft spot for an adorable wool cover, though!)
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I was a newbie with no support. I got AIO's thinking that would be the easiest to learn. My washing machine was as old as the hills and we lived in a place where I could not line dry regularly due to the weather and my baby kept getting terrible rashes. I used a cream which killed 2 expensive diapers . Still rashes, rashes getting worse, yeast... Talk of stripping, bleach (or no bleach), vinegar, specific creams I could and could not use, soaks... I got overwhelmed. I sold the diapers and went to disposable.

However, when DS1 was about a year old we moved to where there was a diaper service. No more worries about washing, yeast, creams, soaking or any of that! And, they cost about the same as disposables and require no special care at all. Remove from baby, toss in bag, set out for pick-up once a week. I don't have any extra laundry and they are always totally sanitary, clean as clean can be and delivered in a nice pile I just plop by the changing station. We signed up with the diaper service, I got a few fold-and-tuck covers and we've never looked back (and with 4 yrs of professionally laundered diapers, not a single serious rash on either kid). Really, the diaper service is the only way I could (can) cloth diaper. I'm lucky its here as I couldn't CD without it...
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i only use cloth when i have one child in diapers at a time. when it's two kids at once, it is just too overwhelming and we switch to disposables. i wish i had the time and energy to have two in cloth at once but i just don't.

exactly that.

Along with laundry for the normal 1 change a day, it was too much.
Also the mention earlier of bulkiness was true in part for me, too, especially with 2.
We used them up till a year ago then switched. Also, mine did get a little worn out as I was methodical about changing them every 2 hours because my son was always wet and if I left it longer, they'd leak.... so they got worn out quicker.

With me it's not SO much the time and energy; I could hire them or whatever, but more the ability without spending much of my day at the machines.

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I'll answer for my sister since I use cloth and she's not on MDC.

She works full time and her MIL babysits. MIL is okay (but not really supportive) of feeding my niece EMB, organic baby food and not CIO but cloth would just be too much for her. My sister doesn't feel that its worth anything to just use cloth on her days off.

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so. . . we're hardcore into cloth (I have 2 in diapers and we have no dryer, and I've only ever used sposies on dd when we were travelling to another continent - 48 hrs of straight travel).

That being said - if I was ever tempted to ditch cloth it's during those horrible, messy diarrhoea toddler poo episodes. Crap, I've been tempted to throw the cloth diaper away rather than scrape/rinse/touch that stuff - especially while pregnant!

(instead I let Dp deal with them all! he's a saint!)

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We used cloth till we moved to our own home[from an apt] the washer in the new home didn't work. We ended up purchasing a used washer off craigslist for 50$ works fine for clothes but I don't think it could handle diapers.

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Mine might be a bit unusual, and not very helpful, but:

I used mostly cloth with my three oldest. I always kept a pack of sposies on hand, in case my kid suddenly went through the last 4 clean diapers before I could wash them. We used them for traveling. That was about it.

When we had Aaron, ds2 was still in diapers. We used sposies for a while after Aaron died, and I made two attempts to start using cloth again. That didn't work out. We ended up throwing out about half a pail of diapers, with the pail, when we both switched back to sposies and forgot that there were cloth diapers soaking. Blech. (That's embarrassing to even admit in "public", but we were in a pretty bad way, mentally.)

So, now dd2 is two months old. I haven't got around to finding a new pail. Until I do that, we're using sposies full time. I feel like I'm cheating...except when I almost run out and have to make a dash to the store - way bigger hassle than a load of laundry, imo!


ETA: I've noticed a few people mention bulkiness. I have had frustrations with this over the years. I don't care how they look, but a lot (most?) of manufacturers of baby clothing definitely size the clothes based on the assumption that a trim little sposie is under there, not a bulky cloth diaper. It can be a pain to get clothes that fit with cloth.

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at this time we are not using them because when we moved across country the house we were renting was suppose to not have a washer or drier, and since i had no idea where a laudry mat was, and how often i would be able to get to one do to heavy snow (we moved in winter), i gave them to a grateful mama and went to posies. but when we got there he had bought a washer and drier. we just didn't have the cash on hand to restock the fluff, so i just still use them. it makes me sad because i love cloth, i love all the choices and all the lovliness. the love hanging cloth on the line, i love the big padded butt. they made me happy. and honestly i did have some pricey stuff but my favotite was the big birdseye type and a good wool cover.
ah well, i made another mama happy with my stash. and when we have another baby, i will be stocking up!

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You know, I CD'd all three of my kids, but I have to agree with those who mentioned snobbery as a turn-off. When I had my first two in 1993 and 1995, there was no internet and I didn't know anyone who CD'd (though my mom and all her friends had of course used cloth), so I didn't know any different than to go out and buy a stack of pre-folds, some pins, and vinyl pants. Worked fabulous, no problems every. Yes, my kids looked weird when double (and then later triple) diapered for bedtime, but they didn't care, so I didn't either.

Then I had my 3rd in 2002 and it was a whole new world. I mean, I used the same old system I'd always used and you'd have thought I'd chosen to diaper my child with chunks of moss covered with a bread bag. Yikes! Unreal. "Here, try this (aio, pocket, whatever) diaper and you'll never want those prefolds again!" "OMG, how can you use pins? You'll hurt him!" (FTR, I did once pin a diaper to my eldest baby in the middle of the night. He survived with no visible scarring.) Also, when I decided to CD my older two, a primary reason was we were really poor and it made sense to CD - way cheaper. When I had my youngest, we had enough money for sposies but I figured I'd save money again, just because that's a good thing to do. I couldn't figure out why I would want to make CDing just as (or more!) expensive as using paper diapers.

So, yeah, there's this weird culture around CDing that I really don't like. Actually, that's true about almost everything that has to do with parenting, but you didn't ask about sports, BFing, homework, or anything else.

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