I would love to hear about your experiences if you tried cloth and then switched.
I'm crunchy... Like a Dorito.
Mama to Sprout 4.09 and Bruises 7.11 handfasted to 9.07
Also, if were going to be in area/situation where I wouldn't be able to change as often or pack around a dirty diaper I would grab sposies.
But the bulkiness of the diaper bag was the biggest downside for me.
I'm crunchy... Like a Dorito.
Mama to Sprout 4.09 and Bruises 7.11 handfasted to 9.07
anyway, one thing I can think of that might turn lots of people off is how much research has to go into it! Theres SO many brands and types. prefolds, covers, fitteds, contours, aios, pockets, one size, pocket aios... then plain and simple, some work well, some don't work well. some are expensive, some are pretty cheap. they all have such vastly different fits and different babies are going to fit better in differen't ones. hook/loop, snaps, side snaps.. and wet bags, liners, inserts, doublers, snappis, washing routines, detergent, repelling, stinky build up, stripping.. rash creams that are safe for cloth, night time solutions that work for a heavy wetter, wool, wool wash, lanolizing!!! For us experienced cloth users, its pretty easy to keep it all straight, but I can see how the learning curve might intimidate less adventurous newbies who might find it easier to simply choose between huggies and pampers!!
Except that my newborn HATED cloth and would freak out and wake up any time she wet it. With 2 other young kids to take care of, it just wasn't worth it to me. I've tried again from time to time and she just doesn't do well with it. I'd rather have a baby who sleeps.
So I'm in the process of getting ready to sell my stash. I don't think I'll even bother if we have a 4th.
For personal reasons we actually plan to see if this system will work on our next baby right from the start. In the end it was for us the simplist and best of both worlds.
plus my then dh didnt want to use cloth. too much trouble for him. we tried a diaper service. but it was a hassle for him.
so ended up using sposies.
I planned on using cloth from early on, did tons of research, and I invested a lot of money ($300) into a good stash. I was really dissapointed when she was born and I put the diapers on her, they litterally made her lay lopsided no matter how I folded them. So, we went out and got some disposables hoping she would grow into the ones we have. She hasn't.
We've tried different kinds but I have not found a cloth diaper that doesnt make her look like she's wearing an innertube.
Cloth can be very expensive. I didn't have the money to get a stash going before she came and I certainly didn't have any money after she came.
There is a lot of cloth snobbery I encountered. and the crazy amount of hype. all the stuff people think you need to research. its like if they make it crazy complicated it makes them that much better. I don't know. people spending $200 on A diaper was such a turn off to me. I was really proud of myself for using cloth and then people started talking down about gerber dipes and plastic pants (which worked just fine on all my children thankyouverymuch). Good heavens even my pins weren't up to par because they weren't dritz. and for the record my $.99 diaper pins lasted through 3 kids, stayed sharp, and never ever bent going in. they were far and away my favorites. it was seriously equated with abuse to use less than whatever the diaper de jour was. so I stopped for a while. I didn't want to hurt my kids with using evil pants and I didn't want to be associated with "those" people. it was so much craziness. The excitement and uppitiness and constant hashing out of details creeped me out. they were poop catchers for crying out loud. no need to get obsessive about it.
I hated the bulk. it was hard to find clothes that fit and I wanted my baby to be cute.
then came baby number 2.....it was the year 2000.
Screw everyone and their criticism. I was comfortable in my prefolds and plastic pants. and cheap pins. my friend tried to get me to use mother-ease but really $20 for a diaper and cover - scandalous. I couldn't do it. and she really made me feel bad about using my gerbers but I marched on. She could say what she wanted. I actually used cloth all the time. she petted hers and bragged about hers and put sposies on her baby.
but I didn't use disposables on her hardly at all. she was a really complicated baby who hated having her diaper changed from the day she was born until the day she potty trained so sometimes I would just get over whelmed and take diaper vacations. a week here or there with sposies. otherwise 100% cloth. but I don't care what anyone says. sposies are easier. so much easier in every way.
third baby came along - 2002 -
If the child felt the slightest drip of wetness she would wake up screaming. didn't care when she was awake. didn't care when she was potty training : but it was decidedly the end of the world if she was sleeping. so she wore disposables while she was sleeping.
I won't lie. I loooovvvveed the smell of pampers......loved it. its still like heaven to me.
Oh yeah and around a year she was walking funny. we thought one of her legs was decidedly shorter than the other. so we put her in disposables for the night once but a water pipe broke and while we were hanging out in the hallway of the hotel we noticed she was walking just fine. so we kept her in sposies for a while until she was walking a little better. the cautiously went back to cloth.
so three different kids. three different times. lots of different reasons for using disposables.
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-With cloth, I was chaging diapers ~20 times a day (I can't let a kid sit in a wet diaper that *feels* wet). Sposies need to be changed way less often. This is the main reason. With two in diapers and nursing, that is ALL I would be doing all day. Nurse. Change diaper. Repeat.
-It takes longer to change a cloth diaper (the ones we had, anyway). We had to stuff the new diaper, wet down the cloth wipe, swish poopy dipes in the toilet. With sposies, I just put the thing on.
-We live in an apartment, and we don't use paper towels. So we already have a ton of laundry. At this point, I just can't add any more (or hog the machine any more).
-Like a PP mentioned, I hated having to haul what amounted to a suitcase if I wanted to run errands in order to contain all of the CDs. Eventually, I started using sposies when out, even with DS1.
-Another thing that a PP mentioned that drove me away - the bulk. I love buying cute kids' clothes, and when DS was past the age where onesies and babylegs were cute, sposies started to look a lot better. I couldn't fit cloth under jeans. I felt like I was restricting his movement and making him miserable.
I would love to be able to do cloth, but right now, it would just be one more thing. And in order to do school with a family and a DH that works two jobs, I have to eliminate some of the "one more things."
I have 3 kids. With the first we used mostly cloth. Plastic when travelling, out, or she was sick.
My second got horrible rashes in cloth, not as much in plastic. So we went entirely with plastic with him.
With my third, we use cloth sometimes. We are out a lot of the day very often, and I don't like carrying dirty diapers around half the day. If we'll be mostly in, or only out for a couple of hours, then she gets cloth. You'd think the extra laundry would just feel like a drop in the bucket (it did with my second, no big deal), but I am just so drowning in it that it's kind of beyond me to take on the extra laundry that a full time CD regime would entail. I hate hate hate laundry. But part time. We can do part time. Sometimes.
I also really hate nursing poops with CDs. I find the whole process a lot easier and less annoying once they are mostly on solid foods. CDs also leak more than plastic(except for 7th generation- the plastic I mean are the hardcore Pampers, etc). They can get pretty good, but there's really no getting as good as those super engineered plastic things. Philosophically I really like CDing, but it's not always worth the trade offs in our family.
So I quit and went to sposies for the rest of her diapering days.
Now with DD2 I had service for 1 month, then did combo of prefolds and sposies, and then I found the diaper lust, and it's crazy, and I use cloth exclusively now.
And now I am, like you:
I am totally blinded by the fluffy fever! My piece would be horrible lopsided verging on the point of unbelievable if I didn't have your thoughts to hit on!)
Good luck with your paper. I am interested in the cloth from a business perspective as well so let me know when it's done so I can read it.
Theres SO many brands and types. prefolds, covers, fitteds, contours, aios, pockets, one size, pocket aios... then plain and simple, some work well, some don't work well. some are expensive, some are pretty cheap. they all have such vastly different fits and different babies are going to fit better in differen't ones. hook/loop, snaps, side snaps.. and wet bags, liners, inserts, doublers, snappis, washing routines, detergent, repelling, stinky build up, stripping.. rash creams that are safe for cloth, night time solutions that work for a heavy wetter, wool, wool wash, lanolizing!!!
I felt really guilty, but sposies were SO much easier. DD is fully trained now, so the stash is donated, and I've moved on.
And for the record, I've never run out of sposies and had to make a midnight run to the drugstore. (I will always have a soft spot for an adorable wool cover, though!)
Momma to 8 y.o. DS and 5 y.o. DD. Married to a Maker!
However, when DS1 was about a year old we moved to where there was a diaper service. No more worries about washing, yeast, creams, soaking or any of that! And, they cost about the same as disposables and require no special care at all. Remove from baby, toss in bag, set out for pick-up once a week. I don't have any extra laundry and they are always totally sanitary, clean as clean can be and delivered in a nice pile I just plop by the changing station. We signed up with the diaper service, I got a few fold-and-tuck covers and we've never looked back (and with 4 yrs of professionally laundered diapers, not a single serious rash on either kid). Really, the diaper service is the only way I could (can) cloth diaper. I'm lucky its here as I couldn't CD without it...
i only use cloth when i have one child in diapers at a time. when it's two kids at once, it is just too overwhelming and we switch to disposables. i wish i had the time and energy to have two in cloth at once but i just don't.
Along with laundry for the normal 1 change a day, it was too much.
Also the mention earlier of bulkiness was true in part for me, too, especially with 2.
We used them up till a year ago then switched. Also, mine did get a little worn out as I was methodical about changing them every 2 hours because my son was always wet and if I left it longer, they'd leak.... so they got worn out quicker.
With me it's not SO much the time and energy; I could hire them or whatever, but more the ability without spending much of my day at the machines.
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She works full time and her MIL babysits. MIL is okay (but not really supportive) of feeding my niece EMB, organic baby food and not CIO but cloth would just be too much for her. My sister doesn't feel that its worth anything to just use cloth on her days off.
I do what works and when it stops working, then I do something else.
That being said - if I was ever tempted to ditch cloth it's during those horrible, messy diarrhoea toddler poo episodes. Crap, I've been tempted to throw the cloth diaper away rather than scrape/rinse/touch that stuff - especially while pregnant!
(instead I let Dp deal with them all! he's a saint!)
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I used mostly cloth with my three oldest. I always kept a pack of sposies on hand, in case my kid suddenly went through the last 4 clean diapers before I could wash them. We used them for traveling. That was about it.
When we had Aaron, ds2 was still in diapers. We used sposies for a while after Aaron died, and I made two attempts to start using cloth again. That didn't work out. We ended up throwing out about half a pail of diapers, with the pail, when we both switched back to sposies and forgot that there were cloth diapers soaking. Blech. (That's embarrassing to even admit in "public", but we were in a pretty bad way, mentally.)
So, now dd2 is two months old. I haven't got around to finding a new pail. Until I do that, we're using sposies full time. I feel like I'm cheating...except when I almost run out and have to make a dash to the store - way bigger hassle than a load of laundry, imo!
ETA: I've noticed a few people mention bulkiness. I have had frustrations with this over the years. I don't care how they look, but a lot (most?) of manufacturers of baby clothing definitely size the clothes based on the assumption that a trim little sposie is under there, not a bulky cloth diaper. It can be a pain to get clothes that fit with cloth.
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Loving my amazing dh, James & forever missing Aaron Ambrose (11/07)
ah well, i made another mama happy with my stash. and when we have another baby, i will be stocking up!
mama to 7 amazing children married to my main man for 24 years and finally home FULL time
Then I had my 3rd in 2002 and it was a whole new world. I mean, I used the same old system I'd always used and you'd have thought I'd chosen to diaper my child with chunks of moss covered with a bread bag. Yikes! Unreal. "Here, try this (aio, pocket, whatever) diaper and you'll never want those prefolds again!" "OMG, how can you use pins? You'll hurt him!" (FTR, I did once pin a diaper to my eldest baby in the middle of the night. He survived with no visible scarring.) Also, when I decided to CD my older two, a primary reason was we were really poor and it made sense to CD - way cheaper. When I had my youngest, we had enough money for sposies but I figured I'd save money again, just because that's a good thing to do. I couldn't figure out why I would want to make CDing just as (or more!) expensive as using paper diapers.
So, yeah, there's this weird culture around CDing that I really don't like. Actually, that's true about almost everything that has to do with parenting, but you didn't ask about sports, BFing, homework, or anything else.