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thanks for all the suggestions all we can do is TRY and HOPE the next thing we try works! Believe me we have been trying a LOT of things!! reasonable and unreasonable. I would NEVER let him suffer on purpose, I would cut my right breast off if it meant it would cure this
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Wow, that looks exactly like my daughter's was for about 6 mo. It was so freakin' bad! I swear we tried everything! The only thing that REALLY worked was a high stregth cortisone (Elocon) but of course I didn't want to use it too often or at all really.

One day, the rash disappeared. We had been using some new diaper cream - Triple Paste - but I am not sure if that was the reason or not. I doubt it now, because we only used it for a week. The rash went away, never came back and has never needed cream again. No idea why. So mysterious. Anyway, i hope your son's rash goes away too.

BTW, my thought on the other thread wasn't that the rash wasn't THAT bad. It was that there is something other than a hyena diaper that will help it. After all, they aren't made of magical-elixer-cotton-hemp.
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: we're going to have to see what else you can try. I hope you get some good suggestions.
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oh my
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Poor little guy. That looks so sore. I hope someone can help find something for it.
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Oh, one more thing. If disposables help, I surely would switch. They did help my DD and I used them on and off during that time to tame the rash. I know disposables are the enemy and all, but if your child is in agony and they help him, I'd do it (and did).
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yes we've tried everything OTC they make and good few prescriptions. His dissapeared too back in october for a week but then came back. We were using naftin and dermatop then, but when it came back the naftin/dermatop combo didnt make a dent in it. And yes there are other non hyena dipes that work, I know I have some but they dont work as well as the specific one we now have enough for to make through the day and you can tell it helps by comparing the first and last pics in the post, the first being a day in fitteds/flats/prefolds and the last being a day+ in AIOs/disposables
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what all have you tried? have you actually found something that works and keeps the rash away?

I absolutely understand the problem with rashes. And I know that it's a different situation for each individual child.

I'm asking what you have tried and if you have found anything that works just to see if maybe there is something that someone could suggest.

For us we had to switch to only using wool covers. We have issues with certain fabrics and textures too. I can't ever use polyester on him or we end up with just what you have in your pictures. For some that can mean even needing to use cotton threads and certain types of elastics.

Personally, I found it necessary to have things custom made when we were going through the rashy problems.

We couldn't do polyester (this means microfleece, windpro, etc and PUL of course but also NO polyester blend in the fabrics), hemp, velours sherpas or flannels (texture issues)

We also had to look to the detergents and/or any additives used in washing.

Also sometimes it's necessary to look to the diet as well.

It typically is actually a combination of a few things. So maybe the diet isn't bothering him too badly but when coupled with a texture sensitivity (or detergent and since it's in an area that is not as ventilated, etc) then it's an issue. Just an example of course.

I don't think anyone is questioning the rash issues. I think it's more a question of there only being one particular diaper that would work.

I know we had times when only one diaper did seem to work. But honestly, it was more a matter of the combination of sewing technique and fabrics. I had other choices as in I could make them myself, have someone else custom make items, etc. It really wasn't an issue of only being able to get it from one particular place.

It's good to keep one's options open as much as possible. I've been around long enough to know that WAHMs come and go and what works today may not work tomorrow.
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If disposables help, I surely would switch.
I do I use disposables at night and for a while, while trying to build up an AIO stash I used them daily... he went through 14 a day, there is NO WAY we could afford that until he PTs we are a no-income family right now and I only have a very small balance left in my bank account to tide us over until work comes back.
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So let's brainstorm. What are the factors that you NEED in order to keep the rash away? You NEED for there not to be any moisture on the OUTSIDE of the diaper where it touches his thighs, correct? You NEED for there to be a natural fabric against the thighs or does this matter?

What else? Are there things that don't seem to make a difference?
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ok we have tried every OTC diaper rash ointment, foot rash oitnment, dry skin ointment, feminin rash ointment, male rash oitnment. Then the prescribed ones we have tried are: a mentax/cortaid combo, naftin/dermatop combo, lamisil, bactroban, elidel, and a few things my mom brough tover from my grandmothers medicine cabinet
the only one that made a dent was the naftin/dermatop, it went away for a week then something set it off again and the naftin/dermatop didnt work anymore
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fully fleece lined everything is what helps it stay dry and uniritated... FCB windpro AIOs, we had a hidden pearls creation that helped but now its falling apart cause its over a year old LOL, and the my precious baby by april fleece AIOs I have work. I had a fleece pocket that worked for a while but then I guess I wore it to the bone cause it got thin on the inside micro and no longer seemed waterproof
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we havent done any orals yet, the derm said she wanted to do topicals first.
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Ill be watching this Thread SEEPAE. I hope you dont mind. I dont have the exact rash problem but we have similair issues, and Ill be watching for ideas on diapers and such.
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fully fleece lined everything is what helps it stay dry and uniritated... FCB windpro AIOs, we had a hidden pearls creation that helped but now its falling apart cause its over a year old LOL, and the my precious baby by april fleece AIOs I have work. I had a fleece pocket that worked for a while but then I guess I wore it to the bone cause it got thin on the inside micro and no longer seemed waterproof
so a side-snapping windpro AIO is a good jumping off point, right? Let's expand on that. You have tried and liked:

(fill in the blank for me here)

Of those, you can order more of:

(fill in)

Or, you need suggestions for things that are identical in shape/sewing technique?
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Are you able to just do nothing ~ no dipes either? Sounds like a lot of different products to me. Maybe try ECC? I hope it gets better soon.

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poor little guy! I hope you find a solution soon.

I know you do the baking soda/tto wash thing. Could he be reacting to either of those? Believe it or not I can not use baking soda with Josh. If I try to put him in a bath with some baking soda in it or use it in my diaper wash his skin breaks out in hives and big red welt looking things. Josh had a rash in the exact same place as your DS, big angry red welts that oozed and wept. They were about 1/2 as big though. I took him to an allergist and he has been on a very low dose antihistamine and I kept trying different detergents. The combo of the Atarax and Bio-kleen laundry detergent finally got the rash under control and he hasn't had it for 2 months now.

Good luck mama.
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Are you able to just do nothing ~ no dipes either? Sounds like a lot of different products to me. Maybe try ECC? I hope it gets better soon.
we cant do diaperless at all or he claws himself(see picture)... one day he drew so much blood from clawing his scrotum it pooled where he was sitting and was all over his shirt. and I try as much EC as I can but Ive never grasped it fully, yesterday he did poop in the potty though, LOL
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I know you do the baking soda/tto wash thing.
its not, we were doing that for 2 months before this showed up, then when it did I of course thought maybe it was so I washed for a week with Dawn, no help, then tried tide(what we used before) no help and LOTS of stink, since then Ive tried samples I got in the mail(sensi clean and such) with no results
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more brainstorming here:

we mentioned detergents and/or additives to washing/drying...you didn't speak to that. whoops I was posting at the same time as others...nevermind this part!

what about wipes? Are you using cloth wipes? if so what fabrics and what solutions?

Just throwing things out there. Although it sounds like we had almost the exact opposite problems since there was no way any poly would work for us and disposables would make things worse.

I think it's better to look at what one can do to prevent and do away with it other than all the different treatments if at all possible. I think many of the treatments can just cause other problems.
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Poor baby (and mommy)...I'm so sorry you are having this trouble. The only thing that cleared up Caleb's rash completely was hydrocortisone...once we got it under control completely, I have used other things (mainly Calendula by California Babies and some aquaphor) to keep it away. I mention this because (based on what you mentioned) it sounds to me like this is a allergy/sensitivity issue...maybe? and that is what the cortisones are made for...I hated using it but it did do the trick. We tried tons of stuff to avoid the hydrocrotisone--(including most of what you mentioned). It turned out that he was sensitive to the ingredients in many of the things we were using (he breaks out in response to even a little zinc oxide!!) Also, I only use water to clean him--just spray on and pat dry. I am glad you have enough of the dipes you need (right?). I understand having to use particular things---my other twin will break out if he isn't in wool (so no aio's or disposables for him). Just goes to show that all kids are different.

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Have you tried using wool to air it out? Sorry, I didn't read your other thread!
Also A&D ointment really helps with the pain of such rashes. I have used it many times on my children and also my self on patches of eczema.

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we are going to see a new doctor because the derm we were seeing seems to be not concerned with it, the last time I spoke with her I explained what medicine worked that she had presecribed and that we needed more because it came back and she said she'd look into it, then had her assistant call back and say get A&D oitment, so we are going to see a pediatrics specialist at children's hospital very soon and hopefully she can help
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fully fleece lined everything is what helps it stay dry and uniritated... FCB windpro AIOs, we had a hidden pearls creation that helped but now its falling apart cause its over a year old LOL, and the my precious baby by april fleece AIOs I have work. I had a fleece pocket that worked for a while but then I guess I wore it to the bone cause it got thin on the inside micro and no longer seemed waterproof
so a side-snapping windpro AIO is a good jumping off point, right? Let's expand on that. You have tried and liked:
I posted this on the other thread, but www.lucyshopechest.com makes a very nice side-snapping serged AIO: she has microfleece for the inner and windpro for the outer. And they are very available and reasonably priced.

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your poor little guy. my first got rashes that looked very much like that though not to that degree. i came to the conclusion that she was sensitive to wooly nylon (or any nylon, you should have seen her bottom when i put her in a bumkins ). i had some diapers custom made for her with cotton thread and it got much better. she spent a lot of the time in honeyboy covers (turned and topstitched) with a trifold layed or snapped in since that kept the moisture off of her thighs and there was no nylon thread touching her anywhere. luckily she could wear fleece. disposables didn't help her as they made her rashy all over. PUL gave her a different rash too. ugh! since your guy likes to be dry everywhere maybe you could find someone to make you some more fleece pockets -- honeyboys or otherwise? so if you use aios/pockets that keep him dry exclusively it disappears? if so, nice you found the solution, hope you can find enough specific dipes that work. dd#1 potty trained relatively young and i was so glad!!! good luck clearing it up.

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yes we were a completely wool and fitteds family until recently when we started making the switch to AIOs when I figured out that AIOs were the best route to take since we cant afford disposables.

and I responded abotu the detergent up a few posts, and hydrocortizone didnt help... we tried 1% and that burned him, so we tried .5% and it didnt burn but it didnt clear it up.

and my only thought about food allergies is apples but he its them so infrequently I have to rule it out since its like a once a month if even that food he likes to eat
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hmmmmmm that makes me wonder... how many of the WAHMs Ive meantioned use wooly nylon? his rash is mainly located in the areas where serging is common to touch, but when we tried prefolds only that didnt help.... still must question.....
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