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http://www.organicconsumers.org/body...bies030105.cfm
So, I found this article on potentially hazardous baby products, which was no new news to me, but~~~~~they mentioned lanolin. And how most batches tested positive for ddt. What does this mean?
I am so confused, and wondering if it's ok to lanolize my wool now:LOLThis is probably silly, or maybe in the wrong spot.But I am wondering if they are talking about a different grade of lanolin than what we would use?

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Where was the article from? I ask because I remember something about Lanolin was impure years ago but now it is safe to use.
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From Organic Consumers Association email newsletter.Just got it too.

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I didn't notice your link at first. Sorry! That is interesting...especially because I used lanolin a lot on my breasts in the early weeks of nursing.
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they mentioned lanolin. And how most batches tested positive for ddt. What does this mean?
It probably means we should be using organic lanolin.

Like the kind Natural Simplicity used to sell.

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well, I have a bottle of it.I believe the brand is called Home Health.Where can I get organic lanolin??This was bought online. But I mean, is the info in the article possibly outdated for the lanolin part, or is it correct? And what does this mean?

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Ugh, nowhere else to get organic lanolin?
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Delurking with lanolin thoughts - if a sheep is not organically raised, then it's wool and lanolin are not going to be, at least "certifiably," either. The lanolin I use says it's 100% pure, but I get the idea that means there's not additives - not necessarily that it's been purified. I'm going to e-mail the manufacturer and see what they say. I also have a couple e-mails out to find a source for organic lanolin - if I find any, I'll post it for you all. The only source I could find after a half hour google search was in Australia - cost about $15 w/out shipping.
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About Lansinoh - http://www.lansinoh.co.uk/articles/the_facts.pdf - looks like that's as safe as it can get. I assume Lansinoh UK would be the same US. My tube says it's the world's purest lanolin.
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I can't speak to lanolin specifics... but I do know that DDT is being reevaluated and many experts now believe it is not nearly as dangerous as once thought. Not saying you want to eat it or anything but just that if you have been using non-organic lanolin there is no cause to worry.

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Alright. still, I thought I would throw it out there.
I mean, if that is one of the only products I use that could have toxic stuff in it-it wouldn't be as bad as if I used all mainstream products.Still though,I sure would like to find out more.

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Definitely. I think most, of not all, of us were running an the assumption that lanolin is 100% safe... I know I was.

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I get my lanolin from the health food store. They sell it in liquid form.

Mom of a 7 yr old, 4 yr old, and 1 yr old. Wow. How did that happen?
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nak...Just a thought...

When I was pregnant with my first a LLL leader who did the hospital's BFing "class" (not that you learn much there) said that ONLY use Laninosh or Pure Lan as they were the most pure and that store brand names had alcohol and other additives to it. Maybe that's what that article is refering to?
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Great Article--Thank you for sharing!

The article indicated DDT-like.

Not sure about the rest of the country but here in PA if I am not mistaken the use of DDT is Illegal and you are not even allowed to dispose of it. For something like 30 years now!
If someone knows differently please post-curious. I really liked this article.

No help on the best lanolin though.

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This is not really surprising. DDT is still showing up in breastmilk, water, our food sources... and on it goes, despite the fact that it's been out of use in many parts of the world for decades. Note I say many; it's not banned everywhere in the world! And it's only one of the nasty things found in our environment due to pesticides - more good reasons to support local (to you) agriculture and organics whenever possible. (I know I'm not telling you all anything new here!)

More on DDT from the EPA: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/pbt/ddt.htm

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This is not really surprising. DDT is still showing up in breastmilk, water, our food sources... and on it goes, despite the fact that it's been out of use in many parts of the world for decades. Note I say many; it's not banned everywhere in the world! And it's only one of the nasty things found in our environment due to pesticides - more good reasons to support local (to you) agriculture and organics whenever possible. (I know I'm not telling you all anything new here!)

More on DDT from the EPA: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/pbt/ddt.htm

thanks koalamama
So, my lanolin is definitely a healthstore variety,but not nessecarily organic.
I just tend to be really cautious about even the healthy things we do that come into question. Such as,when I learned(from this boardthat baking with flaxseed is bad for you.I would've blindly gone on thinking I was doing my family some great service, while actually the seeds would turn toxic!
So, even if alot of the health store brand lanolins *may* be somewhat safe, I just like to watch out for new developments on what is safe or unsafe.

Anyone know of a link about lanolin specifics?Say, such as how much ddt would actually be in a standard bottle versus an organic or healthstore variety?Or does anyone know a place to buy organic?i think the cost would be worth it seeing as how it lasts forever.

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Ok, so when I googled it, all I came up with for organic lanolin was a place in Australia Maybe I should check again. There has to be somewhere closer!
http://www.natureschild.com.au/produ..._fabrics/455/1
If you do the currency converter it comes out to about 14.00, US currency. Twice as much as what I paid for mine, not including shipping.

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This is why I feel safest using lansinoh, I know it's about the purest form I can get my hands on! Good luck with your search.
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Not positive, but I think the reason Lansinoh is considered best for breastfeeding is because it is "purified", meaning that it has had every last itty bitty trace of wool fiber strained from it, so that if you or your baby are allergic to wool, you can still use it.
I don't think it could be purified of pesticides. If the sheep that the lanolin is coming from get "dipped", you're going to have traces of the dip chemicals in the lanolin. I haven't a clue how much, but they're likely there.
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Not positive, but I think the reason Lansinoh is considered best for breastfeeding is because it is "purified", meaning that it has had every last itty bitty trace of wool fiber strained from it, so that if you or your baby are allergic to wool, you can still use it.
I don't think it could be purified of pesticides. If the sheep that the lanolin is coming from get "dipped", you're going to have traces of the dip chemicals in the lanolin. I haven't a clue how much, but they're likely there.

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Any new info mamas?

Lanolin is my most common used item in the house. Now I am freaked out!!!

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Well, it does make sense that "purification"wouldn't nessecarily mean pesticide free.
I am going to keep looking for organic lanoilin.One of the health problems listed in the article from koalamom, caused by ddt had to do with reproduction. That is very disturbing seeing as how I use lanolin near their reproductive organs

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I rec'd a response from my lanolin source, which is http://www.vitaglo.com/7730.html (not sure if this price is current). Here's what the manufacturer said:

Though this is not organic Lanolin it is purified and tested for impurities.
Here is our requirements:

Impurities (maximum permitted levels): Chlorides: None;
Paraffins: None (per USP methods)
Organic volatile/ Chromatographic impurities: per USP Method IV <467>/ USP 23
Chemical By-Products/Deterioration Products: N/A
Pesticides: None detected
Microbiological: Aerobic Plate Count: <100,000 cfu/g;
Yeast and Molds:<2,000 cfu/g;
Coliform: <300 cfu/g;
E. coli: <10 cfu/g;
Salmonella: Negative/25g;
Heavy Metals: Heavy Metals as Lead (Pb): <10ppm;
Arsenic: <1ppm;
Aluminum:<1ppm
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I've been looking for organic lanolin and haven't had any success yet, if anyone finds some - be sure to post!
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Short version ~ USP modified (Lansinoh) is about pure as it is going to come.
Research to back it up ~
lanolin (lan·o·lin) (lan¢o-lin) [USP] [lana + oleum] the purified waxlike substance from the wool of sheep, cleaned, deodorized, and decolorized; mixed with 25 to 30 per cent water, it is used as a water-in-oil ointment base.

modified lanolin, [USP] lanolin that has been processed to reduce the amount of free lanolin alcohols and detergent and pesticide residues.

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USP 28 (Modified Lanolin). It is Lanolin that has been processed to reduce the contents of free lanolin alcohols and detergent and pesticide residues.

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Lansinoh is guaranteed to contain less than 1 part per million (.000001) or 10 thousandths of I% (.0001 %) total combined residues - the absolute lowest value achievable with present technology.
Lansinoh will never contain more than 1.5% free lanolin alcohols or 0.5% detergent residues - rendering it truly hypoallergenic,
even for those allergic to wool or other refinements of lanolin. Lansinoh Laboratories will always provide a current Certificate Analysis for review. Lansinoh is the only lanolin that contains no preservatives or additives of any kind.

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Hydrous lanolin versus anhydrous lanolin
When referring to the three papers that use lanolin, care needs to be taken as different names are used in each paper. Anhydrous lanolin is known as USP modified lanolin and is also referred to as modified lanolin (medical grade) in comparison to hydrous lanolin which is now discontinued due to concerns about pesticide residues.

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Different types of USP lanolin
USP Ultrafine Grade
Superfine Grade
Cosmetic Grade
Pharmaceutical Grade

Modified USP

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I have to say that I'm fairly positive that Lansinoh is NOT the same as
PureLan. I have had several patients react allergically to PureLan and not
one with Lansinoh. Sorry, but it's got a great track record at least with
me.
-- Chris Hafner-Eaton, PhD, MPH, CHES, IBCLC

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