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I like straight forward, easy to navigate sites. I may buy from a site that isn't easy to navigate, as long as I can find all the information about the product (size range, etc.).

I probably won't buy from a site that has a lot of spelling errors, or really bad pictures. That's my real pet peave!!

I don't have a lot of time to browse online so if a site isn't clear and easy to navigate I'll just look elsewhere. Spelling errors are my pet peeve too! IMO, spelling errors and poor grammer show a lack of professionalism which makes me wonder about the product and customer service. The website is my first contact with the business and when time isn't taken to proofread the script I worry that the same lack of attention will come through in other ways.
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Ok..i'm gonna go order something from HPC a) 'cuz I dig the site and b) I *really* want a mermama magnet...I've always loved that logo. I never thought of it as porno at all. Oh..and c)'cuz I just read the old post about the magnet and I wonder what my hubby would say... :LOL

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That's so cool about your daughter's name!

This culture is so weird about breasts.

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I received alot of emails about it, and even some returned magnets.
Your magnet had a place of honor on my fridge!

amberb, thanks for pm'ing me about the cover! (I probably should have pm'd you in the first place instead of taking the thread off topic.) I'm going to join your yahoo group!

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Ok..i'm gonna go order something from HPC a) 'cuz I dig the site and b) I *really* want a mermama magnet...I've always loved that logo. I never thought of it as porno at all. Oh..and c)'cuz I just read the old post about the magnet and I wonder what my hubby would say... :LOL

Agreed
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Oh yeah, totally. Professional graphics and logos also make a huge difference.

There is a certain diaper people love but I just can't buy because I cannot for the life of me navigate through their site! It's so confusing.

I know one like that, too - the size info was very hard to find, in particular!

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LOL- thanks guys. Too bad I'm virtually unstocked. :LOL
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Absolutely. A website I've been too which shall remain nameless is so badly designed (the menu has small print and 2093840932840932849032 options) that it's nigh impossible to find anything. I've gotten lost myself, even after having been to the site before!! I've sent people there to get a specific diaper, and they ended up asking me to link them directly to it...they couldn't find it!

I also hate websites done in Frames. I kind of avoid those sites too.

Also, slow websites drive me bonkers. I won't shop at them either.

I'm a website snob! LOL
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LOL- thanks guys. Too bad I'm virtually unstocked. :LOL
...I *knew* I should have bought that large fleece AIO a couple of weeks ago. Your daughter does beautiful pf's though...maybe I'll snag a couple of those instead! I always them!!

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I dont really care about how a website looks. If I want something and price is affordable, I'll stay and purchase something. If the cart doesnt work that might make me click out of a site but otherwise, I dont really care about design.

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..pelling errors are my pet peeve too! IMO, spelling errors and poor grammer ..
It's GRAMMAR. That is my pet peeve.
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LOL- thanks guys. Too bad I'm virtually unstocked. :LOL

Those toddler prefolds your dd dyed were fun enough to catch my eye

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It's a good compulsive buy, Moose has totally outgrown premiums anyway, I'll blame the gorgeous Mermama
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FTR, as a wahm if anyone hated (or currently hates) my sites, I would want to know (gently if possible) so that I culd remedy it. Now I am turning in circles wondering which sites ya'll are talking about!!!
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I'm a professional web designer, but I'm mostly indifferent to how a WAHM's site appears. In a way I find some of the more amateur-style sites charming. They just seem more personal. I have left a couple sites because they were truly un-navigable, but if it's just wild colors or a little clutter it doesn't affect my shopping decision.

Honestly I don't even market to WAHMs because I would have to charge so much more than I figure is affordable for the product they are selling. One time there was a WAHM I liked whose site was pretty abysmal, and her buttons almost unreadable--I wrote to her and offered to re-do her buttons in exchange for a discount, but she declined .
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It's GRAMMAR. That is my pet peeve.
Oops! I knew that- typing too fast! Sorry to pet your peeve! :LOL I'm usually pretty AR about my own spelling and grammar. I guess I should've proofread a comment about the need for proofreading.
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It took me 3 months to save the $ to have my site fine tuned. And there are still some elements (like the search, etc.) I'd LOVE to have, but I am still paying my overhead from fabrics, etc.. Every WAHM would love to have her site professionally designed and mantained for her (Oh, could you imagine?! ).
I just have to tell you, that I LOVE that logo. LOVE. It makes me want to shop there MORE! I think that's fabulous, and props to you for having that as your logo. It's so beautiful and I love seeing positive images of breastfeeding.
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Oops! I knew that- typing too fast! Sorry to pet your peeve! :LOL I'm usually pretty AR about my own spelling and grammar. I guess I should've proofread a comment about the need for proofreading.
Just thought it was ironic.
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I am pretty open minded about sites, I too get irked by spelling errors and things but I am very guilty of them myself. It is MUCH harder to see your own spelling/typing errors when proofing because you know what it says, you're less likely to look too close and just skim over the details. I am REALLY bad about your/you're but I tend to do okay with there/their- I don't notice it too much in others. But spelling errors I will notice, and it isn't that I won't shop there, but I might tell the WAHM so she can fix it so it won't bug me anymore.

I got started in cloth diapering by offering my web design services in trade for product, I have an entire stash of diapers because of doing design for people. I still trade, it is how I get most of my stuff. I know most WAHM's can't afford to pay a proffessional designer $500 for a site design (or more depending on who you go to) but can afford the supplies to make $500 worth of cloth diapers over a stretch of time. I recently did a site a yarn shop, I love the fact that I got $500 worth of yarn for my time, and the woman who owns the site loves the fact that she got $500 worth of design work for 1/2 the price to her. So I know people out there want their sites done, but a lot just haven't had the opportunity to make a way! (something I exploited when I was in need of a full stash LOL)
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It's such a viscious circle with designed web sites. One has to have the sales to make the money to have the site designed. So, if their temp design isn't good enough for the sales, they will not be able to make the money to have it professionally designed.

OTOH, typos and spelling errors.... Most wahms are working on their sites while most customers are all snuggled up in their beds asleep. The wahms are tired, know that the baby will wake in a couple of hours to nurse too, but have too much to do.

Really, we spend many hours and every day working on our businesses. It's not just about selling diapers. A lot of love goes into what we do. We care about our customers, we care about your families, we care about our businesses, and we try to make everything work.

Believe me... not a weekend goes by that I am not working on something business related. When I go on "vacation" I bring my work with me.

This is the nature of the business we are in, and we love what we do (which helps).

If you see a problem with a site, maybe you could gently email the wahm and offer your help? See typos? Offer to proof her site for her, or email her letting her know the typos. Most wahms are thankful for the help and that you care enough about what they are doing to offer your help and take time to email them.

Dana, I love your mermama, and I LOVE my magnet. It is proudly displayed on my fridge... she is beautiful. Every product that I have purchased from you has been made so perfectly and been very cherished by me.

Anyway... things that might turn me off from purchasing on a wahm site would be knowing of others not getting their orders, seeing rude or offensive stuff posted on the site, etc. I have not run across this so far, though.

I do admit that I love sites that have a lot of info on them about cloth diapering and natural living. Like the fuzbaby site.... I love it. I can just read and read, and it motivates me. I love what she says about "smallering" too.

I love the idea of supporting the small guy. That's the wonder of wahm businesses. You are supporting the small guy... smallering. You get a web site that is more personal in many cases... and you can sit and imagine the mom sitting at the computer while nursing her baby and stocking her store. You can imagine her sewing your diapers while her children are napping, or painting with fingerpaints with dad at the table. It's like you know that there is a real person behind it all.

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It's such a viscious circle with designed web sites. One has to have the sales to make the money to have the site designed. So, if their temp design isn't good enough for the sales, they will not be able to make the money to have it professionally designed.

OTOH, typos and spelling errors.... Most wahms are working on their sites while most customers are all snuggled up in their beds asleep. The wahms are tired, know that the baby will wake in a couple of hours to nurse too, but have too much to do.

Really, we spend many hours and every day working on our businesses. It's not just about selling diapers. A lot of love goes into what we do. We care about our customers, we care about your families, we care about our businesses, and we try to make everything work.

Believe me... not a weekend goes by that I am not working on something business related. When I go on "vacation" I bring my work with me.

This is the nature of the business we are in, and we love what we do (which helps).

If you see a problem with a site, maybe you could gently email the wahm and offer your help? See typos? Offer to proof her site for her, or email her letting her know the typos. Most wahms are thankful for the help and that you care enough about what they are doing to offer your help and take time to email them.

Dana, I love your mermama, and I LOVE my magnet. It is proudly displayed on my fridge... she is beautiful. Every product that I have purchased from you has been made so perfectly and been very cherished by me.

Anyway... things that might turn me off from purchasing on a wahm site would be knowing of others not getting their orders, seeing rude or offensive stuff posted on the site, etc. I have not run across this so far, though.

I do admit that I love sites that have a lot of info on them about cloth diapering and natural living. Like the fuzbaby site.... I love it. I can just read and read, and it motivates me. I love what she says about "smallering" too.

I love the idea of supporting the small guy. That's the wonder of wahm businesses. You are supporting the small guy... smallering. You get a web site that is more personal in many cases... and you can sit and imagine the mom sitting at the computer while nursing her baby and stocking her store. You can imagine her sewing your diapers while her children are napping, or painting with fingerpaints with dad at the table. It's like you know that there is a real person behind it all.

Teri - nak

Teri, as usual, you have put what many of us were thinking into words. As one consumer posted yesterday, its in the WAHM's nature to be uneducated and ignorant,because of our lack of edumacation. But, you have really helped to dispell that . Thank you!!

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Web sites are expensive, and WAHM's tend to have tight budgets. I am working on mine every minute i can it seems, it seems importnat to me to turn out a fine timely product, but if noone shops, I guess it doesn't matter . I even have a dial up modem (one of my budget items so that dh could open his own company, boy am i regretting this decision )

I love easy to navigate sites (I have to with a dial up connection, don't I?) and minor typos don't bother me. I figure she is doing what I am, up in the middle of the night working on it.....major typos or grammar gets to me though.....

OT..kind of....the most beautifully written web site I have seen is www.virtualyarns.com The stories are beautiful and fun to navigate and that mauve, althoug not my kind of color is so peaceful....
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So if you hated a site, would you tell the wahm or just let her figure it out on her own?
As a new site owner, I would *definitely* appreciate knowing if someone had a problem finding/viewing something, and although I may not have let others know in the past, this is something I do now that I am more aware of what is out there. I would just try to word it as nicely as possible!

Especially knowing that most WAHM's can't afford much better, I do have more patience with the site, but at the same time, there are many inexpensive options out there (including learning how to do it from scratch! Thank god I have a patient husband! LOL!)

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I wonder how many WAHMs are right now adding the Search to their sites
Woohoo! April is adding one for me now. I love her.
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ok don't know if this has been posted cause I haven't read all the way through but have you ever thought of this....

For me, I think every site is beautiful. nooo, not trying to be the group cheerleader but seriously think about it for a second. One thing could be that the new WAHM is smart in that she is not spending a ton of money (and trust me I know some web designers can be a pretty penny but do AMAZING work, not trying to discount them by any means) and falling into debt which is not a smart move when you first start out. Yes, presentation is key... I know, I have a fashion degree and know all about it. But you also have to be smart in small business dealings. Time could factor in, resources, etc... Maybe she is learning as she goes. Growth is key. The general public is more apt to recognize growth and new items, designs, images, whatever as time goes. It's just how it goes. For example.. and this is IMHO... Fluffy mail. Didn't really care for their old site but DAYMN, love their new one. How many page long posts did you see about that change????
The OTHER thing is this, and could fall into resources as well, what if this WAHM is an amazing seamstress but her computer skills or graphic design abilities lack? WHy would you hold that against her? Ok yes, I agree... a site that is hard to navigate is frustrating but who really cares? Most of us are spending lots of time on the net surfing, posting, reading the news, we are spoiled by big name company's sites with ease and "perfection". Kwim?

ALSO, a site design is an expression of that WAHM... the colors she enjoys, artwork, etc... Yes it is ultimate to please customers but as we all see quite often HERE even, you can't please everyone so why not make it something YOU (you as in the wahm) enjoys most?

disclaimer... this is MY view and my pocket change
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Dana, I can't believe that anyone would be offended by your logo! I think it's beautiful!
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OTOH, typos and spelling errors.... Most wahms are working on their sites while most customers are all snuggled up in their beds asleep. The wahms are tired, know that the baby will wake in a couple of hours to nurse too, but have too much to do.

Really, we spend many hours and every day working on our businesses. It's not just about selling diapers. A lot of love goes into what we do. We care about our customers, we care about your families, we care about our businesses, and we try to make everything work.

... I love the idea of supporting the small guy. That's the wonder of wahm businesses. You are supporting the small guy... smallering. You get a web site that is more personal in many cases... and you can sit and imagine the mom sitting at the computer while nursing her baby and stocking her store. You can imagine her sewing your diapers while her children are napping, or painting with fingerpaints with dad at the table. It's like you know that there is a real person behind it all.

Teri - nak


Last night I worked until about 3 am- but from 11 pm-3 am, it was 30 minutes working, baby wakes up and cries, I run down the hall, nurse for 15 minutes, sneak away as quietly as possible, work for 20 minutes, baby wakes up and cries....and so on and so forth!
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Dana, I love your logo!! I want a magnet too, I keep meaning to order something and then when I have paypal you don't have instock and vice versa :LOL.

As for sites, the only thing that really bugs me is frames because they are a bit hard to navigate. Otherwise I'm not too picky.
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I also hate websites done in Frames. I kind of avoid those sites too.
Oh, yeah, frames are the debil.

ETA: I'm a web developer. :LOL

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There are alot of us wahms who would rather spend their time sewing rather than on web site stuff.
While I do try to keep up on my site and keep it neat and functional, I cant spend alot of time on it. First of all I am not a web designer, dont have alot of website knowledge, and when I get a few minutes to myself, I am going to run off and sew, not screw around on the computer!

Snd since no one has loudly complained about my site, I assume it works just fine! I like its clean, simple look.
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Snd since no one has loudly complained about my site, I assume it works just fine! I like its clean, simple look.
Yes, actually I do like it. You have a good color scheme and is a clean site.
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