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I'm glad about the split because I just wasn't interested in the stocking/showing threads - and there were/are a LOT of them. It'll be great not to have to wade through them all to get to the threads I'm more interested in. I don't see what the big deal is, I guess. The board was clearly being used for 2 different purposes, it makes sense to split it. * shrug*
Obviously it makes sense to you to split it, since you personally weren't interested in the threads that are being moved. Most of us, though, didn't perceive the board as being used for 2 separate purposes. We are interested in talking about diapers: whether they're being stocked, bought/sold, shown, used, advocated, whatever. I doubt that most of us click on every single thread. We click on the ones that interest us. But I don't go around saying that all the threads that don't interest me should be taken away so that I don't have to wade through them.

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As for 'regular' posters being less likely to respond to questions - nice implied threat here
It was not a threat. I meant exactly what I said, no more, no less: my fear is that if we are upset by what is being done, we might not be as happy about answering questions. We simply won't be able to help the way we feel. Also, some people have mentioned that they might hang out only in the stocking/showing forum, and will not be available to answer questions for that reason. Obviously, if I'm so upset that I leave the board, I will not be available to answer questions.

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The board was clearly being used for 2 different purposes, it makes sense to split it. * shrug*
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It seems to me some people here are struggling with the change. That's cool, I just hope this thread doesn't degenerate into an 'us vs them' war.
You are wise, grasshopper. This sums up my sentiments exactly. When I first came to MDC I hung out on the diapering boards a LOT, but the show-off and $200 ebay auction stuff got more and more prolific, and I felt less and less comfortable and welcomed.

Personally, I think you nailed it with the "two purposes" thing, and I feel the split will meet everyone's needs. Change is hard, but I am sure we will all adapt.

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But see, that means that "hyenas" are tucked away in a corner so no one can see us. I hate these impliations that those of use who are against the split are crazy consumerist evil-doers who spend our DH's money friviously and ONLY shop the newest diapers while bragging how cool we are.

Comments like that make me think Alice is right on. That it really is an "us" vs "them" instead of letting us all get along like we did before.

If you aren' interested in stockings or show-offs what are you interested in? Flat shopping and prefold shopping have to go into the show off forum too right?

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But see, that means that "hyenas" are tucked away in a corner so no one can see us.
I guess I just don't get this. I don't see the people who are trying to get the diaper porn sites shut down complaining that they are being stuck out of the way, or the diaper sewers, or the EC folk. Why is this different? Why do you feel it's so important that this stuff be part of the main forum? Is it just because that's the way it's always been, or is there another reason? Because I don't get it, and, believe it or not, I would like to understand.

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Comments like that make me think Alice is right on. That it really is an "us" vs "them" instead of letting us all get along like we did before.
I don't know what to say to this- no where has anyone said anything remotely like this
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I hate these impliations that those of use who are against the split are crazy consumerist evil-doers who spend our DH's money friviously and ONLY shop the newest diapers while bragging how cool we are.
I hear you saying that you are feeling targeted, but, as you stated below, the "new rules" apply equally to everyone, so what's the big deal?

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If you aren' interested in stockings or show-offs what are you interested in? Flat shopping and prefold shopping have to go into the show off forum too right?
I don't use flats or prefolds actually. I think this is great- if I want to look for a good deal on a dipe, or who has my preferred diaper in stock (which, if you really want to know, are Lucy's Hope Chest fitteds, Absorbitalls, and Luke's Drawers, and I like mama-made covers or the Re-Use-Ems) it will now be much easier to find that info in one place. If I am having a wicking problem, or looking for a nighttime diapering solution, or want an opinion on the best fitted, I can post them in one forum.

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When I first came to MDC I hung out on the diapering boards a LOT, but the show-off and $200 ebay auction stuff got more and more prolific, and I felt less and less comfortable and welcomed.
Whether you understand it or not, this change is making some people feel just as you did, uncomfortable and unwelcome. I think it's pretty easy for you to say that the split will meet everyone's needs since it's a change that you're in favor of.

I don't lump together all of those who want the split. I see differences among you but I do think that there is an undercurrent of self-righteousness among some of those advocating change, a sense that those people who choose to make all of their diapers or use only prefolds and flats or do things in a more "frugal" way are somehow better. You may not see it or feel it but that doesn't mean it's not there.

I do see that some people want the split because they believe it will be easier to wade through the massive amount of information that gets posted in the diapering forum. I just simply disagree with that notion and that's it. I don't believe that it's ever been difficult to find what I'm interested in reading about and I think it's pretty ludicrous to believe that moving only two types of threads into a subforum is really going to cut down on the number of posts and the amount of information that people will have to sift through in order to find what they're looking for.

I also don't like the idea because I think it's yet another opportunity for the mods to start moving stuff around. Don't get me wrong. I think there is a real need for moderators. That said, MDC is the only online community that I belong to where the moderators "intervene" on such a regular basis.

When I posted several months ago asking if there were other CDing mama's in the Twin Cities who wanted to hang out over coffee, my thread was moved to the "Finding Your Tribe" section of the board. A few good things came out of that for me but regardless I never saw any real difference between my thread and the "diaper party" threads that I see regularly in the diapering forum and the move irked me. Also, recently there've been a number of threads moved to the TP. One mama was offering up a soaker or pair of longies that she'd knit herself and wasn't going to be able to use. She wasn't selling them, she was offering them to anyone who wanted them. By moving the thread to the TP, the mod who did so made it impossible for anyone without 60 days and 50 posts to take that mama up on her offer. I know that the user agreement states that it's against the rules to question moderators but when things like this are done, I do question them regardless of whether I do so "out loud" or in print. I dislike that the changes being made will create another reason for this kind of shuffling and micromanaging to occur.
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I hate these impliations that those of use who are against the split are crazy consumerist evil-doers who spend our DH's money friviously and ONLY shop the newest diapers while bragging how cool we are.
The only people I've seen imply this is you yourselves? I've said again and again that consumerism is GOOD (I think Walmart is good too though - :LOL ). Separating a topic just means that that topic is an important enough part of the board to have a special place for it!

Maybe instead of thinking of yourself as being tucked away in a corner, you should think of yourself as being glorified enough to have your own special subforum? I think this is all a perception problem. Maybe some people in the past have said nasty things about you, but I haven't seen any posts in THIS thread even implying that there's anything wrong with hyena shopping. Did I miss something? And as annettemarie mentions, the EC folk, the diaper sewers, and others have their own subforums - not because they're being tucked away somewhere, but because the topics are important enough to be in their own special place. I read the diaper sewing forum myself, and am glad it's a separate forum because I know that I can go there for specific diaper sewing help. I also know that people who aren't interested in sewing their own diapers don't have to read all the diaper sewing threads (and there aren't alot of those either... I think there's probably been more stocking/showing threads in the last few days than there have been in the sewing forum).

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If you aren' interested in stockings or show-offs what are you interested in? Flat shopping and prefold shopping have to go into the show off forum too right?
Sure! Honestly, when I see "show off" (although I agree that that's a bit of a negative connotation... there needs to be a better name for displaying recently purchased fluff), I think of showing the new diaper you scored, whether it be the hardest to get diaper in the world, or a common diaper that everyone has. It doesn't matter. It's just showing your fluff. Stocking probably wouldn't apply to flats and prefolds just because they're usually in-stock everywhere. And I'm not sure if the new forum is supposed to be just talking about stocking or if it's talking about all shopping? But I think if the forum name/description gets clarified correctly, it can be done in a way that it will be easily understood, IMO.

I can certainly understand why some people don't want to split the forum, like the dial-up concerns and such. And that's ok. We can't all agree on everything! Let's just try to keep a good perspective though. I don't think pro-splitters are out to get the hyenas (honestly, hyenas and hyena-related threads don't even factor into my opinion of having different subforums). I think most of the pro-splitters I've seen post have just wanted it for organizational purposes.

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I do see that some people want the split because they believe it will be easier to wade through the massive amount of information that gets posted in the diapering forum. I just simply disagree with that notion and that's it.
And I agree to disagree on that. I have had trouble finding things at times, usually if I am not able to check the board all day, when I come back to 3+ pages of stuff.

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I think it's pretty ludicrous to believe that moving only two types of threads into a subforum is really going to cut down on the number of posts
I agree with this. I think the last thread on this had some suggestions of multiple subforums (which is what I would like to see). One of the new subforums hasn't been posted to yet, but then again, the moderators haven't really said that things have to be posted there either.

I'm pro-splitting of the forum in general, NOT pro-splitting just the hyena stuff from the non-hyena. Let me get that on the record.

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That said, MDC is the only online community that I belong to where the moderators "intervene" on such a regular basis.
I'm on some lists that are much more heavily moderated than this! I actually have rarely seen moderation in action on this board. But I've only been here about 6 weeks.

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A few good things came out of that for me but regardless I never saw any real difference between my thread and the "diaper party" threads that I see regularly in the diapering forum and the move irked me.
I agree that either both should stay or both should go. Perhaps the moderators just missed the diaper party threads? I don't know. As a moderator myself on some e-mail lists, I know that sometimes things get overlooked, especially in such a large forum. And humans are only human. Perhaps when you see a diaper party thread, you should report the post to the moderator to let them know it should be moved? There's a "report this" icon on the left side of a post... I assume that that can be used to report that a thread is off topic for a forum?

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By moving the thread to the TP, the mod who did so made it impossible for anyone without 60 days and 50 posts to take that mama up on her offer.
This one is probably a gray area - does offering for free belong on the TP or not? I don't know. I think the TP access restrictions are harmful to the TP in general, since new CD'ers building a stash to use right now or lurkers who read but don't post often can't make use of it. I also see why the rules are in place, and I don't really have a good recommendation to fix the problem, KWIM? I still have 11 days before I can access it, and now my stash is built. Oh well.

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But I don't go around saying that all the threads that don't interest me should be taken away so that I don't have to wade through them.
I never said that. I did say that I agreed with the split for that reason, but I didn't agitate for the change to happen. But it's happening, and it makes sense to me.


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It was not a threat. I meant exactly what I said, no more, no less: my fear is that if we are upset by what is being done, we might not be as happy about answering questions. We simply won't be able to help the way we feel. Also, some people have mentioned that they might hang out only in the stocking/showing forum, and will not be available to answer questions for that reason. Obviously, if I'm so upset that I leave the board, I will not be available to answer questions.
This seems passive aggressive to me. And btw, who is this 'we' you speak of? I see people answering questions right now who don't seem particularly upset.

Otherwise, I agree with annettemarie. I'm seeing a lot of defensiveness here, and I don't understand why.
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You are wise, grasshopper. This sums up my sentiments exactly. When I first came to MDC I hung out on the diapering boards a LOT, but the show-off and $200 ebay auction stuff got more and more prolific, and I felt less and less comfortable and welcomed.

Personally, I think you nailed it with the "two purposes" thing, and I feel the split will meet everyone's needs. Change is hard, but I am sure we will all adapt.
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This seems passive aggressive to me.
Again, you're assigning meaning to my words that is not there.

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And btw, who is this 'we' you speak of? I see people answering questions right now who don't seem particularly upset.
I'm one of them. The only place I've expressed my upset feelings so far is on this thread.

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Whether you understand it or not, this change is making some people feel just as you did, uncomfortable and unwelcome. I think it's pretty easy for you to say that the split will meet everyone's needs since it's a change that you're in favor of.
So what I am hearing (and I am not trying to be a smart alec, just sincerely trying to understand) is that by splitting the forum, you feel unwelcome, because you feel like a certain type of cloth diapering mama is being shooed away from the general public? If this is what you are saying I just don't see that since, as someone else pointed out, mamas showing off their simple stash also need to go to the new forum. To me, it's more like sorting the "fluff" (pun intended) from the serious questions.

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I don't lump together all of those who want the split. I see differences among you but I do think that there is an undercurrent of self-righteousness among some of those advocating change, a sense that those people who choose to make all of their diapers or use only prefolds and flats or do things in a more "frugal" way are somehow better. You may not see it or feel it but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Honestly, I don't see that. The only people I see making that claim are the ones against the split.

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I also don't like the idea because I think it's yet another opportunity for the mods to start moving stuff around. Don't get me wrong. I think there is a real need for moderators. That said, MDC is the only online community that I belong to where the moderators "intervene" on such a regular basis.
OK, this cracks me up. Believe it or not, the mods are not sitting around looking for opportunities to move things. I appreciate all the time these volunteer mamas put into the often thankless job of keeping the board organized and safe.

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The only people I've seen imply this is you yourselves?
A lot of the threads have been deleted b/c they got nasty, but here and here are two of the more recent ones.
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A lot of the threads have been deleted b/c they got nasty, but here and here are two of the more recent ones.
Keeping in mind, of course, that the first linked thread refers to an incident where a number of senior member mamas were referred to as "trolls" and worse when one of them posted a picture of a new prefold and snappi as a score.

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I know--I read the thread before it was deleted. Just trying to answer the questions of some people who are wondering what some of the complaints are about.
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I know--I read the thread before it was deleted. Just trying to answer the questions of some people who are wondering what some of the complaints are about.
Oh, I know. I guess my point was that tempers were running hot and there were a LOT of hurt feelings on that thread all around.

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So what I am hearing (and I am not trying to be a smart alec, just sincerely trying to understand) is that by splitting the forum, you feel unwelcome, because you feel like a certain type of cloth diapering mama is being shooed away from the general public? If this is what you are saying I just don't see that since, as someone else pointed out, mamas showing off their simple stash also need to go to the new forum. To me, it's more like sorting the "fluff" (pun intended) from the serious questions.
Well, that may be what you're hearing but that's not what I said. Go back and read what you quoted from my post. I simply said, whether you understood it or not, there are some mamas here who feel alienated by the spilt. I didn't include myself in that group nor did I try to explain why they felt that way. I think you've got the gist of their argument and I've gotta say your dismisal of it is pretty, I don't know, offensive? cold? insensitive? If I read you right, your discomfort with "show off and $200 auction stuff" somehow takes precedence. Why?

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Honestly, I don't see that. The only people I see making that claim are the ones against the split.
Again, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. I've seen it and felt it and I've never even paid big bucks for either of my kids' fluff.

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OK, this cracks me up. Believe it or not, the mods are not sitting around looking for opportunities to move things. I appreciate all the time these volunteer mamas put into the often thankless job of keeping the board organized and safe.
Holy condescending, Bat Man! I appreciate that we have people willing to volunteer their time to moderate these boards. Believe it or not, I know that it's a time consuming and often thankless endeavor. And while I think that much of the work they do is under appreciated and very good, I also think that some of it is unnecessary. Since I'm not in favor of splitting the forum, at least in the way described, I tend to think of the moderating involved in doing it as unnecessary. I also see it as an opportunity for bad moderating decisions. You have every right to disagree. However, it'd be nice if you didn't address me like was clueless and ill informed.
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I guess right now it seems to me you are taking all the "fun" CD'ing topics and moving them into a forum that newbies may not know to visit....

Whether posters/CDers buy expensive diapers or cheap diapers, seeing a fellow CD'ers post their excitement or enthusiasm over receiving/finding/scoring fluff is EXCITING!

If other newbies are anything like me the "show off", "fluffymail", "stocking" threads are what got me excited about CDing.. It wasnt the "diapering 101" discussions about how you wash them, how to get rid of a rash, etc. that drew me in.... although they were necessary too.

Either way, I will adapt as many of us will but I didnt think it was broke, hence didnt know it needed a fixin'

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A lot of the threads have been deleted b/c they got nasty, but here and here are two of the more recent ones.
Thanks, Jennisee! Scanning those threads, I still don't think that most people are making the implications that Sustainer was talking about. I'm sure there are some that think that, but you'll always have bad apples, right? I'm one that doesn't care how much you spend on a diaper. If you want to spend $200 on a diaper, then you're either helping a WAHM stay home with her children or you're helping a charity that the WAHM is auctioning for. Either way, it's all good.

I just like the idea of splitting into multiple forums, not just hyena vs. frugal or whatever. And both of those threads had alot of people that were pro-splitting into multiple subforums, and many expressed that they didn't want it to be hyena vs. non-hyena/frugal, but they did want subforums in general.

So again, I think we all need to step back and get a new perspective on things. No one is trying to target anyone or get rid of anyone. We're all trying to make the forum easier to navigate. Unfortunately, what's easy for one person isn't necessarily easy for another. For some, it's easier to have everything in one big forum, and for others, it's easier to have it in multiple subforums. I just don't like seeing the negative attitude of some towards those who are pro-split, especially calling us "self-righteous", etc. There's no need for that, period. I don't think anything bad about those who are against the split. Why are some (and it's just a few!) thinking bad about those who are for it?

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And I agree to disagree on that. I have had trouble finding things at times, usually if I am not able to check the board all day, when I come back to 3+ pages of stuff.


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I agree with this. I think the last thread on this had some suggestions of multiple subforums (which is what I would like to see). One of the new subforums hasn't been posted to yet, but then again, the moderators haven't really said that things have to be posted there either.

I'm pro-splitting of the forum in general, NOT pro-splitting just the hyena stuff from the non-hyena. Let me get that on the record.
After reading and participating in several of the threads regarding a reorganiztion of the Diapering forum I do see the merit in some of the arguements that have been made. I'm not in favor of splitting the main forum in the way that has been described but I might be in favor of a simplification of the diaper forum so that the subforums that existed were pared down and better utilized.

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I'm on some lists that are much more heavily moderated than this! I actually have rarely seen moderation in action on this board. But I've only been here about 6 weeks.
Okay. I mispoke. I've been on boards that are more heavily moderated too. It's not that I think these boards are over moderated. It's that I think there are more incidents of what I consider strange and/or unecessary moderation and that this split will provide more opportunity for that kind of strangeness.

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I agree that either both should stay or both should go. Perhaps the moderators just missed the diaper party threads?
I don't think that was it. It think some sort of distinction was made--one I neither saw nor agreed with.

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This one is probably a gray area - does offering for free belong on the TP or not? I don't know. I think the TP access restrictions are harmful to the TP in general, since new CD'ers building a stash to use right now or lurkers who read but don't post often can't make use of it. I also see why the rules are in place, and I don't really have a good recommendation to fix the problem, KWIM? I still have 11 days before I can access it, and now my stash is built. Oh well.
On this, we agree. I think this particular move that I referred to was a bad call but I do see the answer was neither black nor white. I do think it tended more toward black though. Perhaps it was charcoal.
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I guess right now it seems to me you are taking all the "fun" CD'ing topics and moving them into a forum that newbies may not know to visit....

Whether posters/CDers buy expensive diapers or cheap diapers, seeing a fellow CD'ers post their excitement or enthusiasm over receiving/finding/scoring fluff is EXCITING!

If other newbies are anything like me the "show off", "fluffymail", "stocking" threads are what got me excited about CDing.. It wasnt the "diapering 101" discussions about how you wash them, how to get rid of a rash, etc. that drew me in.... although they were necessary too.

Either way, I will adapt as many of us will but I didnt think it was broke, hence didnt know it needed a fixin'
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Keeping in mind, of course, that the first linked thread refers to an incident where a number of senior member mamas were referred to as "trolls" and worse when one of them posted a picture of a new prefold and snappi as a score.
As I said before, that is NOT what happened. Someone posted a picture of a white prefold and said things like "Check out this incredible dipe -- I can't believe I got it -- you won't believe how amazing it is..." and so on and so forth. And then the next few posters followed suit, saying things like "WOW, those are really RARE! I've never seen one quite like it..." I don't believe any of these first few posters were people who generally post in the diapering forum. Then someone asked what was rare about the diaper, and one of the original posters responded by posting an 'irked' smilie and saying that something didn't have to be rare to be nice. Then ONE person who understandably thought that the purpose of the thread was to mock hyenas, referred to the first few posters as trolls from TAO.

As I said before, anyone who spends any kind of time in the diapering forum should know that prefolds and prefold users are not looked down upon at all. People talk about how much they love their prefolds all the time and we all celebrate their love for their diapers. Many people here have stashes that are half hyena fitteds and half prefolds. I have never seen anyone put down a simple system.

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Who's idea was this anyway? More and more I think it sucks and I don't know why it couldn't be voted on. I was offline for a month. Did I miss something that led up to this?
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I'm not in favor of splitting the main forum in the way that has been described but I would be in favor of a simplification of the diaper forum so that the subforums that existed were pared down and better utilized.
I definitely think that would be a good idea. I really think the biggest problem with the main forum vs. subforums is that people either go to the main forum and ignore the subforums or they go to the subforums and ignore the main forum. I honestly think that it'd be easier if it were either one main forum with no subforums (although that'd be huge), or if it were just subforums with no main forums (essentially, what is currently the "main forum" would be a subforum). But it doesn't look like the mods are planning to do that, so oh well.

And I really really really hate that I have to scroll down to see the main forum. That's my whole thing against the main forum. I don't like to scroll. :LOL

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I don't think that was it. It think some sort of distinction was made--one I neither saw nor agreed with.
Is there a mechanism for discussing where a distinction is made when it comes to moderating stuff like this? I don't mean telling a mod that moving a thread was wrong (that's obviously against rules), but just getting clarification on what makes one thread on topic and another off topic? And possibly suggesting the modification of that distinction where it makes sense (again, not pointing at the mod and saying anything bad about their decision, but just making constructive criticism on how things could be improved in the future)?

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I just don't like seeing the negative attitude of some towards those who are pro-split, especially calling us "self-righteous", etc. There's no need for that, period. I don't think anything bad about those who are against the split. Why are some (and it's just a few!) thinking bad about those who are for it?
As I've said in previous posts to this thread, I've felt a self-righteous attitude coming from some of the people who are pro-split. Not all. Some. Even though it may be coming from a relatively small number of people, it's a strongly negative vibe and difficult to ignor.
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Who's idea was this anyway? More and more I think it sucks and I don't know why it couldn't be voted on. I was offline for a month. Did I miss something that led up to this?
I have been here and this is news to me as of this thread.
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no offense boscopup --- as i really feel you have valid reasons for wanting the split. But you havent been here that long.... there is quite a bit of "history" of righteous people putting down mamas for spending money frivilously (in their opinion) on diapers. Most of the threads however get deleted....But the negative undertone that Alice and others are talking about is around and has been for a while now. I think you are just lucky enough that is hasnt been brought up lately. :LOL

And FWIW .... I dont spend big money on diapers, I make my own, but I still see it

ETA - my coment about you not being here long isnt to discredit your opinion or anything like that... as I said you have valid reasons for liking it. It was just to point out that there is more history to it that may not be obvious to anyone who has joined in the last 5/6 months, kwim?
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I've been on boards that are more heavily moderated too. It's not that I think these boards are over moderated. It's that I think there are more incidents of what I consider strange and/or unecessary moderation and that this split will provide more opportunity for that kind of strangeness.
I have personally not been on any other boards that are this heavily moderated at all. This board has quite a heavy hand. That isn't the moderators' fault... I'm sure they are getting instructions from TPTB on how closely they need to handle/monitor things.

But, anytime you have someone moderating so much, there are going to be some missed calls. Just like a referee... a referee has to essentially micromanage, say, a basketball game. Because the ref is just standing there making all of these decisions, some calls are going to be missed/blown.

ANYhow... currently it appears that "show off" and "stocking" threads are simply being relegated to the subforum, which doesn't have a lot of activity (and if those are the only threads that it's for, I can't see it changing). So it looks like it may just end up being a dead subforum, like some of the other ones. Only now we can't just post a pic of your stash in the main diapering forum like we used to.
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there is quite a bit of "history" of righteous people putting down mamas for spending money frivilously (in their opinion) on diapers.
Unfortunately, I have to agree. I've not posted much in the 2+ years I've been a member but I've read quite a bit. That sentiment exists.
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Thanks, Jennisee! Scanning those threads, I still don't think that most people are making the implications that Sustainer was talking about.
You went to this thread and you still don't think that the agenda is to banish the hyenas? Everyone who is reading this thread right now, please click on the above thread and judge for yourselves. I want everyone to know what is really going on here!

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