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#61 of 125 Old 10-04-2005, 12:59 PM
 
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Aha, thanks...I have to say I would have wondered as well, b/c I would have never known it was a hobby, almost a sport, yk? Im not saying I would have judged her but I would have been on of those ones who wondered!
I would expect people to *wonder* about why someone has a whip, but there's a great deal of difference between wondering and actually making comments about what someone thinks someone else does in their bedroom. They were seriously shocked too, they weren't kidding.

As for the diaper I'd just like to say again that I agree with those who have been saying that's it's one thing to say that a diaper's style just isn't one's cup of tea and it's another thing to say that a diaper is actually wrong. This is a sensitive topic so I think people should be careful what they say.

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As for the diaper I'd just like to say again that I agree with those who have been saying that's it's one thing to say that a diaper's style just isn't one's cup of tea and it's another thing to say that a diaper is actually wrong. This is a sensitive topic so I think people should be careful what they say.
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I feel bad for the WAHM who made the diaper. She did something totally original and hip, IMO. I don't think there's anything wrong at all with saying that you don't like it, or it's not for you, but it's another thing entirely to say that it's wrong for someone else to buy it or you think it's wrong in general.

Incidentally, I think there's a bit of an untapped market for goth or punk type baby stuff, judging by how well some of it (like the Minor Threat cover) sells. I don't know anythinga bout Minor Threat the band, but I assume they're either goth, punk, or grunge, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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My first thought was "cool, a diaper with a handle! That could be useful for roaming toddlers" lol Snap a leash on that baby. KIDDING

You guys have almost totally squashed my goth theme soaker plans! scary scary!
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Incidentally, I think there's a bit of an untapped market for goth or punk type baby stuff, judging by how well some of it (like the Minor Threat cover) sells. I don't know anythinga bout Minor Threat the band, but I assume they're either goth, punk, or grunge, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

i totally agree with this!! i would love to find some little plaid punk bondage pants for both dd and ds. it would make tieing them up sooooo much easier. :nana:
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i totally agree with this!! i would love to find some little plaid punk bondage pants for both dd and ds. it would make tieing them up sooooo much easier. :nana:
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I just want to say that I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread and not once have my feelings been hurt. Rest assured. I am so pleased that not once was I personally trashed for creating it.

For those of you that know me I am as straight laced as they come and in case you are wondering - no, I would not put this on my baby. HOWEVER, I think it is a totally cool diaper and have gotten lots of positive feedback about it. This diaper was created with the help of my friend's 17 year old son who was wearing pant exactly like the post about the hot topics store. He is totally excited about this diaper and thinks it is the coolest thing he has ever seen. THIS coming from a 17 year old boy - getting excited about a cloth diaper.

I do not know anything about S&M, and if I did I might see some of the connections that some of you are talking about, but really don't have a desire to read up on the topic LOL.

SO, I really do appreciate the "press" this diaper has gotten and thank you! I have a very thick skin - so thank you mama's for worrying about me - but no need! :::

Feel free to keep discussing - I am having a good time.

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I'm so relieved that you haven't let this thread bother you! I was really worried about the effect that some of the comments might have.

I still think people should watch what they say more closely in the future, because I'm sure there are WAHMs who would be really hurt if they had been the one who had made such an item.

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I'm so relieved that you haven't let this thread bother you! I was really worried about the effect that some of the comments might have.

I still think people should watch what they say more closely in the future, because I'm sure there are WAHMs who would be really hurt if they had been the one who had made such an item.
If the comments would have been made about ME personally then yes, but about a diaper - no way. There are plenty of diapers out there that I REALLY dont' like either.

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Good for you, Lisa!!! ( Altho.. I like it, and probably would let the girls wear it out to MILs just so it could make my year :LOL)
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I love it.

Leather/rings are MUCH more commonly used as fashion accessories than as sexual markers. Every 15 year old walking around with leather/rings on is not practicing S/M. There is a distinct difference between GOTH (a cultural and fashion idea) and BDSM (sexuality). A big difference.

As we all know, some people think *all* cloth diapers are sexual. Just because there is a subset of people that think cloth diapers are sexual does not mean that people who use them on their children use them for that purpose. Similarly, just because *someone* might see it as sexual, does not mean a mom who buys the diaper thinks of it that way. Just b/c someone gets off seeing a mom NIP doesn't mean she's doing it for sexual kicks, etc.
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This diaper was created with the help of my friend's 17 year old son who was wearing pant exactly like the post about the hot topics store. He is totally excited about this diaper and thinks it is the coolest thing he has ever seen. THIS coming from a 17 year old boy - getting excited about a cloth diaper.
Well, heck, that's reason enough to make a stash full of these diapers!!! :LOL

Looks like a quality well crafted diaper!

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Not my thing.
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Sorry, I didn't mean the people who objected to it for other reasons, like comfort. I meant the people who claimed it was sexual.

I do concern myself with comments that indicate criticism of others. Especially when I believe those comments are based on ignorance.

We *are* prudes. That's why we're so obsessed with sex. Because we repress it.

Just for the record, I personally wouldn't buy this diaper or put it on my baby.
So we repress our sexual urges and then due to that, we talk about it every chance we can get and turn everything itno something sexual? That's really interesting. Are you a trained psychologist? I'm honestly not being sarcastic, I'm curious if you have had some kind of training that qualifies you to make such a statement. And how many Americans do you estimate have hang ups about sex, and how many are like you enlightened ones who are sexually open? And what defines someone who is a "prude" and someone who is sexually enlightened? How do you know? I guess you make some kind of "judgment" huh? This whole thread has really gotten off topic. As far as the whip, I don't know where your aunt works, but if my husband took a whip to his work, a professional office setting, than how could he not expect talk and questions? It doesn't matter if it's a horse whip or what. Unless you work in a whip factory or somehting, I don't see how it wouldn't get noticed. There was no other time during her day your aunt could find to repair her whip? It seems like a way of calling attention to yourself. Just like I noticed people saying they would buy that diaper for shock value, in other words, for the attention it would bring.

As far as WAHMs, I would never post something about a WAHM's character, or anything about her personal life. But I don't see a problem with having personal preferences and expressing them. I think Lisa has an awesome attitude.
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Not my cup of tea for my daughter. But I have learned from the discussion. Otoh, I bet my other children would like to see this on dd and they would probably think it was Lord of the Rings-ware. :LOL
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It makes me think of punk/goth. It doesn't make me think of porno/s&m.

ditto!
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OK, I know I'm in the minority here, but I think it's cool. That said, there's no way I'd put it on my ds - but for practical, not aesthetic reasons. He'd definitely get himself caught on something.

See, to me it doesn't scream "s&m" b/c a lot of contemporary goth clothing (vs. the goth styles of the late 80s when I was a teenager) has leather straps, metal chains, clips, etc. Criss-crossed straps have become mainstream (at least in the goth world), so IMHO they've lost a lot of their subversive s&m punch, KWIM?

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There aren't enough goth clothes for kids out there, IMO.
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A challenge to all WAHMs reading this thread: More goth clothing! More goth clothing! More goth clothing! (Seriously.)
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How many hits did she get from this? Any ink is good ink, no?

But yes! More unusual clothing!!

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A challenge to all WAHMs reading this thread: More goth clothing! More goth clothing! More goth clothing! (Seriously.)



I'd buy!
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I like it. I definitely want more goth diaper WAHMs.
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A challenge to all WAHMs reading this thread: More goth clothing! More goth clothing! More goth clothing! (Seriously.)
I'm on it

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I agree with the OP, I agree with Nic (and isn't it terribly hard to have an online discussion with someone typing so stream of consciousness without using any grammar/punctuation/editing?), and I also think Lisa has an awesome attitude!
But Off Topic:.... um, I'm definatly not going to be getting excited about lots of goth offerings over at hyenacart, sorry.... : To each his own, but shining smiling beautiful babies look like angels to me, bright & pure & innocent..... nothing about the goth subculture is about celebrating purity and sweet innocence. : So WAHMs, some of us want way more geckos & tree frogs, celestial images, and ....giraffes!
Could say more about whether or not I feel that crossed leather straps & metal rings implies anything about sexual bondage, but will simply stop here.
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So we repress our sexual urges and then due to that, we talk about it every chance we can get and turn everything itno something sexual? That's really interesting. Are you a trained psychologist? I'm honestly not being sarcastic, I'm curious if you have had some kind of training that qualifies you to make such a statement.
I'm not a psychologist. I don't think it requires professional training to make such an observation about one's culture.

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And how many Americans do you estimate have hang ups about sex
I couldn't say for sure, but definitely the majority.

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how many are like you enlightened ones who are sexually open?
I would say that people who have healthy attitudes about sex are in the minority in this country.

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As far as the whip, I don't know where your aunt works, but if my husband took a whip to his work, a professional office setting, than how could he not expect talk and questions? It doesn't matter if it's a horse whip or what. Unless you work in a whip factory or somehting, I don't see how it wouldn't get noticed.
She works in a hardware store. She had it in the break room. I would expect it to get noticed and talked about and questioned, and I'm sure she expected that too. But there's a difference between that and everyone expressing their conclusions about her private life.

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There was no other time during her day your aunt could find to repair her whip? It seems like a way of calling attention to yourself.
She likes having something to do on her lunch breaks. On other days, she brings other handicrafts to work on. She expected people to be interested, in the way they might be interested in anything they don't see everyday. She didn't expect everyone to decide that it had a sexual purpose.

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But I don't see a problem with having personal preferences and expressing them.
As I've said, I don't have a problem with people expressing personal preferences either. It's comments about a product being wrong that I take issue with. Comments that seem to call into question the ethics of anyone who would make such a thing, or consider making such a thing, or buy such a thing, or consider buying it, or even like it.

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As I've said, I don't have a problem with people expressing personal preferences either. It's comments about a product being wrong that I take issue with. Comments that seem to call into question the ethics of anyone who would make such a thing, or consider making such a thing, or buy such a thing, or consider buying it, or even like it.[/QUOTE]


i dont think anyone has really called into the question the ethics of anyone who would make the diaper, or consider making the diaper, or buy the diaper or consider buying the diaper, or even liking the diaper!! dont know where you got that but whatever... For me i was saying that the diaper whould be wrong for me and i never once was thinking that someone who thought otherwise had bad ethics

and Lisa im so glad you have such a great attitude about this...and im glad you understand unlike others that just because some of us think this may be a little to much for our childern that you dont feel we think you are a weirdo or something!!!


oh and i would love some Black longies to you knitting Wahms but not with metal or leather or spikes :LOL
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Ok, I need a briefing here, because it appears that I'm old and totally out of date and out of touch (& I'm not even thirty yet!)

Back in my day, there was a difference between goth (siouxsie & the banshees, black lace, victorian stylings, the cure) & punk (piercings, spikes, leather, sex pistols, sid & nancy, fishnet). I always thought goth was morose and punk was hyperactive.

Coud someone plese redefine these a little for me?
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if we just write off any change in offerings we effectively drive off many of these younger edgier mamas, because we cutey moms will drown out the edgier ones request, just my thoughts.
Good point! It doesn't do the CDing community as a whole any good if new CDing mamas feel rejected. I try to keep an open mind and be accepting and repectful of other people's choices, even if they're not what I could choose. But your post pointed out that I'm not doing that as well as I could. Thanks!

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Ok, I need a briefing here, because it appears that I'm old and totally out of date and out of touch (& I'm not even thirty yet!)

Back in my day, there was a difference between goth (siouxsie & the banshees, black lace, victorian stylings, the cure) & punk (piercings, spikes, leather, sex pistols, sid & nancy, fishnet). I always thought goth was morose and punk was hyperactive.

Coud someone plese redefine these a little for me?
dude, same generation here, too! :LOL

of course, I might definately be the most boring person on the planet and wasn't in the goth/punk/grunge scene at any point in my life, so I wouldn't be good for any sort of culrural comparisons! :LOL

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Ok, I need a briefing here, because it appears that I'm old and totally out of date and out of touch (& I'm not even thirty yet!)

Back in my day, there was a difference between goth (siouxsie & the banshees, black lace, victorian stylings, the cure) & punk (piercings, spikes, leather, sex pistols, sid & nancy, fishnet). I always thought goth was morose and punk was hyperactive.

Coud someone plese redefine these a little for me?

You are correct in your understanding of the characteristics of Goth versus Punk ... but I think fishnet falls under both

aaaahhh The Cure, baby! Where have all the Goth bands gone??
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so what IS considered Goth these days? I look at the Hot Topic stuff and think Punk, not Goth.

I see Corpse Bride & think Goth :LOL
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