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#241 of 281 Old 03-15-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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We have just started a few days ago and are really excited about EC. DD is 14 months. We don't have a potty yet. BBPC on the way. She pees on the floor a couple of times a day and we sign and say "pee" and take her to the sink or tub where she cries. She cries having a diaper put on too. She likes peeing on floor. I feel like I'm messing this up. Am I way off?

Any advice?
How do I even implement the potty anyway?

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Just after I wrote that (NAK) I put DD naked in her infant tub while I used the toilet and she pee'd there kneeling and played with it .
I'm I getting warmer?

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Sounds like our 15 month old who's been EC'd part-time since birth. I keep telling myself that it's not something that'll happen overnight. I don't have much advice for you except to say "Hang in there, you're not alone!"

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Thanks! The BBPC showed up and we've had three pees and one poo in there already, so I'm feeling good about it. I read about blowing bubbles on the "tricks" thread. That is a good one along with a new book. Now that Spring is coming, it is easier to have babe half naked too.
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I am new on this thread but I couldn't resist. HE DID IT! Not once but twice!

Okay, some background. My son is 10 1/2 month old and I have always congradulated him when he has peed, weather on me or in the bath or on the floor but never really did much pssing noises. I did a little but not much. Today I got the baby bjorn, the little one and just had to try it. Nothing and still nothing. I waited a little while and he crawled over to his changing area and started to laugh so I thought he needed a change. He was a little wet but I decided to give the potty a try. I sat on my big potty with him on his little one and dribble dribble he left a little puddle.

After his afternoon long nap I tried the same thing and he didn't want anything to do with that cold potty in the cold bathroom so I tried it beside his changing table in the living room but let him stand over it and sit when he wanted (he is crawling and cruising but not walking) and he sat and peed quite a bit. It would have filled a diaper.

I am so PROUD! Okay, probably just beginners luck but its nice to start out well and get all excited. I know we have allot of work ahead of us.

I will keep updating. For everyone who is trying, keep trying and good luck.
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It has been a week since I got the potty in the mail and its not as exciting any more. LOL

I am having a hard time with the communication part. I am catching 3-5 pees a day but that is pretty much all timing and not communication I think. It is easy to catch the post nap pee.

I haven't caught a poop but he only goes once every 3-5 days since he started eating more solids so those are harder to predict.

How do you do the communication part? Making the ssss noise is part of it but that me communicating to him. I am not catching any communications from him.

It would probably help if I let him go nakey butt more often but I have wool carpet and would like to keep it pee free since it is spendy stuff. My major house remodeling splurge.

P.S. now that he has been allowed to go naked for about 1/2 hour after using the potty he now HATES diapers and I have to put them on while he is on the run so to speak but if I don't put them on he pees on the carpet.
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We had a similar experience w/ the potty being very successful ar first (on the 17th) and then tapering off. DD was going totally diaper free around the house when got the potty but we had a lot of misses after the first two days so we went to diapers with no covers (we use cloth) and I cut a waist band off DH's undies and use that to hold the dipe up (got that from the "tricks" thread). We started noticing DD "communicate" by looking at her crotch right before she pee'd. She also stops what she's doing. I haven't done any noises, we've used signs from early on. She can sign "pee" when I say it but she hasn't used it to let us know what's going on yet.
But now I think we need to go dipe free again b/c we think she is communicating less and peeing more when she has the diapers on. For example, she didn't pee on me when we nursed diaper free but she will pee in the diaper. Same in the highchair.

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Well, if it was a rug I would just roll it up but its a carpet and its not possible. We are working on our house all the time and the living room is the baby safe place in the house or I would keep him in the kitchen for naked time. Hopefully, if the weather ever warms up (more snow today) we will be outside most of the summer and naked as much as possible.

Is he really peeing when I ask him to or is he just peeing soon after he wakes up and I happen to have him sitting on the potty?
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Is he really peeing when I ask him to or is he just peeing soon after he wakes up and I happen to have him sitting on the potty?
I'm afraid it may be the latter, but I just don't know.
I hope Spring comes soon in any case!

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I think our excitment over the potty got in the way of the "communication" bit. She was just starting to sign "pee" but when she found out that resulted in being put on the potty she stopped.
We are thinking to make the short term goal: DD "communicates" to us when she is peeing (and then when she is about to pee).
And wait on whole potty bit.

I mean the key is the "communication" isn't it?

Any thoughts on the process?

Will her interest in the potty just return of it's own accord?

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She was just starting to sign "pee" but when she found out that resulted in being put on the potty she stopped.
We are thinking to make the short term goal: DD "communicates" to us when she is peeing (and then when she is about to pee). And wait on whole potty bit.
This is fine as long as it's fine with you and doesn't cause any upset or negativity (sounds like it won't).

Another thing you can do is when you are fairly certain it's near a time where she needs to go, put her on the potty and if she starts to go, make the potty sign while she is going; perhaps she'll make the sign too.

-- the "communication" isn't it? --

Yes.

-- Will her interest in the potty just return of it's own accord? --

Was she interested in and using the potty before this? You didn't mention her age or potty "history".

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So, we had a day of no catches yesterday and boy is that discouraging!

Today is better and I think I know what is going on. He wants to pee while standing. He has started to cruise lately and is working towards walking. I think walking is only a couple of weeks away. He is almost 11 months.

So, I am pretty sure that every time he pees he is standing up...or almost every time. I have been having him stay on the potty a little after he struggles to stand up. If we get over that little fuss he goes and seems happy about it. He just wants to stand up to do his business.

How did others get over this if they had the same problem?

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He wants to pee while standing. He has started to cruise lately and is working towards walking. I think walking is only a couple of weeks away. He is almost 11 months.
How did others get over this if they had the same problem?
You could try the weeman urinal for baby/toddler boys:
http://www.amazon.com/WeeMan-Potty-T.../dp/B001DZWPSQ

Some baby/toddler boys prefer to stand or insist on standing to pee, so the little urinal is a way to make it possible. And since he will end up standing to pee when older, it's fine to encourage it.

Another factor is that he is working on a milestone (walking) and milestones can temporarily derail potty learning, so don't feel discouraged if he gets off track while learning to walk.

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Was she interested in and using the potty before this? You didn't mention her age or potty "history".

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Hi! In short (for long see post 241 onward ), she's 14.5 months, we started 2 weeks ago with a very successful first day or so. Now she screams if we try to put her on the potty and then happily pees on the floor.
I even think she stopped signing so as not to be put on the potty.
We are thinking to go back to diapers w/out covers and just work on having her sign when she is wet or when she is going to pee. kinda, give the potty a break.

Any thoughts would be very appreciated Laurie. Tia.

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she's 14.5 months, we started 2 weeks ago with a very successful first day or so. Now she screams if we try to put her on the potty and then happily pees on the floor.
We are thinking to go back to diapers w/out covers and just work on having her sign when she is wet or when she is going to pee. kinda, give the potty a break.
Sounds good. It's always okay to alter the procedure or take a break when in doubt and especially if a child is upset.

Other tactics to consider in due course . . . talk to her about the potty and see if she wants to sit on it at some point. You can make it more interesting in lots of ways such as moving it to different rooms and locations within rooms or even outdoors, depending on weather and neighbors. You can reserve special toys or books for when she sits on the potty. Perhaps she would prefer to use the toilet with a child's reducer seat and step-stool (this is the case with many toddlers). In short, offer variety.

Keep in mind that milestones can derail things for a while (is she learning to walk or talk, for example), as can some other events and situations.

The 2008 version of Infant Potty Training has fun color pics of different locations. One of my favorites is of a toddler who uses her potty in a cardboard "house" -- really cute!

Keep in mind that this is a gradual process. There is no hurry. Most important: stay relaxed, enjoy and have lots of fun with IPT!

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hello,
i am new to ecing. i have three little ones. my first has not been out of a diaper for long (maybe 6 months) and he is nearly 6-long history of intestinal infections etc. i also have a three year old who now i see we ec'ed part time starting at 14 months initiated by him. and now we are starting with our 6 month old daughter. we stopped using diapers 3 weeks ago. things seem to have started fairly easily but the road is getting bumpier. i have some questions about nighttime. she was going after midnight three or four times but now seems to go once before midnight then not again till about 6.41 am (right on the dot all week). is this common? also i notice she has a difficult time going if *i* am holding a pee due to general business around the house. does anyone else find this?
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*Doin the potty dance!*

We did it. I pretty much relied on timing for catching pees and was a bit bummed that not much communication was going on.

Last night he told me he needed to be pottied. Well, at 11 months he didn't exactly tell me but I had fed him and he was squirming in my lap and making a fuss for no particular reason. He didn't want a toy, he didn't want to eat, he didn't want down. What could he want? Picture the light bulb turning on over my head. Yes! He had to go pee. So I took him and we did it. He went pee right away and looked so happy about it.

On the other side of this is poop. I haven't caught a single poop since I started EC a month ago. Everyone says they don't hardly miss poops and I can't catch a single one. He is a stealth pooper and likes to poop quietly in his high chair or while trying to steal the laptop when I am trying to do stuff on the net. Sometimes he may lay down and play on the floor and next thing I know there is that smell and I kick myself for not even noticing something was up.

Let me tell you, with a crawling, cruising and soon to be walking kid poopy diaper changes take two people. One to hold the baby and one to wipe.

Any tips on catching poo?
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On the other side of this is poop. I haven't caught a single poop since I started EC a month ago. Everyone says they don't hardly miss poops and I can't catch a single one. He is a stealth pooper and likes to poop quietly in his high chair or while trying to steal the laptop when I am trying to do stuff on the net. Sometimes he may lay down and play on the floor and next thing I know there is that smell and I kick myself for not even noticing something was up.

Let me tell you, with a crawling, cruising and soon to be walking kid poopy diaper changes take two people. One to hold the baby and one to wipe.

Any tips on catching poo?
Poops are hard for us, too. DD will usually poo two and sometimes three times a day. The first one is easy to catch, usually 20-30 min. after the first morning pee, but I never know when the next one's going to be! (Except for today. We caught 2 poos. Well, actually one and a half. )

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I think I caught part of a poo finally. It would be easier if he had a poo schedule but he sometimes goes once a day, very rarely twice and often every other day and sometimes every three days. That doesn't make it easy.

Anywho, I changed a diaper with suspiciously little poo and so I dumped it into the toilet and without flushing I placed him on his little toilet seat. He made allot of noise and grunting and fussing and then peed and may have pooped. Thing is, I don't know for sure if he did because there was already poo in the toilet. Well, I am calling it a caught poop but deep inside I don't know for sure.

My expectations have gone down for catching even most of the pee but I am very happy with the progress over the last month. I think we are finally communicating. I am not just catching the post nap pees but also some of the other ones. He makes a pssing noise sometimes while on the potty and I see this as progress. I am able to read him better and I know he is happy to pee in the potty and is letting me know more and more that he has to go. :::

My husband told me yesterday that he thinks we have the happiest baby ever. That made me so and meant allot to me. Family and friends have been skeptical about the way we are raising Kelvin but they see the product of co-sleeping, nursing past 6 months and EC and it has to get them thinking that maybe there is something I am doing right.
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I havent been doing EC with my 11 month daughter but we have been putting her on the potty for a long time. We started sporatically when she was 3 months and stepped it up when she was 6 months. Now she goes when she wakes up, after solids, at diaper changes and after her nap. More often than not she will at least pee. I would like to add some communication into the mix since she is also wetting her diapers. I do not use any sounds to cue her, I just have her sit on the potty for a little while. Do you guys have any pointers to where I can find info? I have read about EC but am fairly clueless to what signs she might be displaying.

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I havent been doing EC with my 11 month daughter but we have been putting her on the potty for a long time. We started sporatically when she was 3 months and stepped it up when she was 6 months. Now she goes when she wakes up, after solids, at diaper changes and after her nap. More often than not she will at least pee. I would like to add some communication into the mix since she is also wetting her diapers. I do not use any sounds to cue her, I just have her sit on the potty for a little while. Do you guys have any pointers to where I can find info? I have read about EC but am fairly clueless to what signs she might be displaying.

We are in a simular situation as you. Our dd is 8 1/2 months and we've been doing this for almost 4 months. We don't have any specific signals from our dd. We go mostly by timing and occasionally we'll get her to tell us by using the baby sign for potty, though this is rare. Do you use baby signs already or would you consider using it? I have always loved the philosophy of it but even more so with pottying!
As for cueing her I think she just knows what the potty is for and goes. I usually say go potty while doing the sign for potty but truthfully she just knows that potty means go pee or poo.
Good luck! Keep us posted!!
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HI! we're just starting some EC with dd, 9.5 months. About 4 days into this. i feel like this is going to be a lot of work. i caught her pee in the potty once yesterday! but that's all the success we've had.... i don't think she's a "typical" pee-er... she doesn't pee right when she wakes up from naps. she has been staying dry for some of her naps for the past month or so.

i'm going to start peeking around for tips. :
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mama2rio: my daughter goes about 10 minutes after a nap, which is convenient for me right now!

i am wondering if anyone else is experiencing what we call the leaky bum around here...
we have been ecing for about 6 weeks now (starting the week before she turned 6 months) and quit diapers cold turkey. we have misses.....
anyway...back to the leaky bum...she seems to have quite a few poo leaks. always when she pees and many times during the day when she doesn't. she is still mostly breastfed with tastes of banana that she can not yet swallow. we are a gfcf and soy free family due to one of her older brothers food intolerances but i have been slipping and eating gluten lately. i stopped for a week and it was still happening. i know that one week won't make one bit of difference but i am thinking she is constipated (we have been down this road before with the older brother and i am nervous)...has anyone else been here?
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It can be done!

We started at 10 months and now at 11.5 months he has pooped in the potty two times in a row! That's our first and second catch and so far its a winning streak, even if it is a short one. I am telling everyone that will listen. LOL.

The pees are on and off but I catch more on poop days it seems. He only poops every 2-5 days.

I know what you mean by a leaky kid. My son went through about a week of this when he really started eating solids. Lots of little poops in the diaper. We never went diaper free completely.
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We are in a simular situation as you. Our dd is 8 1/2 months and we've been doing this for almost 4 months. We don't have any specific signals from our dd. We go mostly by timing and occasionally we'll get her to tell us by using the baby sign for potty, though this is rare. Do you use baby signs already or would you consider using it? I have always loved the philosophy of it but even more so with pottying!
As for cueing her I think she just knows what the potty is for and goes. I usually say go potty while doing the sign for potty but truthfully she just knows that potty means go pee or poo.
Good luck! Keep us posted!!
I have started to sign her potty when I remember. We have had a bit of a problem with her refusing to sit on it. I'm wondering what is a good fix for that. I try to entertain her but sometimes she'll have none of it. We also have been having a "dry spell" she wouldnt pee in the potty but right after (I got the bright idea to try to potty her every 30-45 minutes during said dry spell and was catching her before she peed but she still wouldnt go in the potty).

I'm wondering if she'll night train before day training, that'd be something lol. I finally figured that if I potty her when she wakes between 2 and 3 she wont supersoak her diaper (it keeps her up when she does which keeps me up and half the time I'm too sleepy to figure why). When I have remembered this her morning diaper has been fairly dry and yesterday it had only a trickle in it. She hates the night potty and will cry a bit but settles as soon as she gets off the potty. Poor thing, cant be nice to be sleepy and having to sit on a hard potty.

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Does anyone have a good idea for an OBVIOUS potty sign. I think that my 1 year old isn't catching onto the thumb wiggly potty sign. He waves byebye and can give the milk sign but the potty sign seems beyond him and even if he could and did make the sign I doubt I would catch it very often.

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I'm teaching DD the "pee" sign. Which is the P sign while touching your middle finger to your nose.. which I like a lot.

That being said I don't know if it'd be worth it to try and continue with the sign you've been doing. But you're the mama, so you be the judge :-)

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I have started to sign her potty when I remember. We have had a bit of a problem with her refusing to sit on it. I'm wondering what is a good fix for that. I try to entertain her but sometimes she'll have none of it. We also have been having a "dry spell" she wouldnt pee in the potty but right after (I got the bright idea to try to potty her every 30-45 minutes during said dry spell and was catching her before she peed but she still wouldnt go in the potty).
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She hates the night potty and will cry a bit but settles as soon as she gets off the potty. Poor thing, cant be nice to be sleepy and having to sit on a hard potty.
Yes... how DO you keep her on the potty? I end up pottying DD in the sink with her squatting on the side, but when she goes it gets quite messy sometimes... I'd like her to sit on the potty but she would rather not stay on, or worse, play with it and try to get her mouth around it!!

I know this sounds really silly, but how does one 'night potty'? Do you just roll outta bed and put them on top of the potty? What if they do that back arching thing, do you still potty them? (I've never done it, so I don't know, but DD wakes up quite a bit during the night).

I usually nurse her to sleep. Do you potty DD before or after nursing (sometimes she falls asleep after nursing, sometimes not).

ps, she is 10.5 mos

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#269 of 281 Old 05-30-2009, 06:25 PM
 
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Hi all. I just found this board. By comparison, we are definitely late starters. DD was 11 months when we started, and is 19 months now. OUr experience has been great, though I would say that it really is still a journey. DD has just begun telling us when she needs to pee. I've been cueing her with the sign and pssshhh sound for about 6 months, and she just started doing it back. I never realized it could take that long. That said, I'm still really proud of what we've accomplished. She still wears diapers for naps, overnights, and long car trips, but I'm ok with this for now. Otherwise, she's diaper free and has only pooped in a diaper about 4 times since we started.

Our main struggle right now is public restrooms. We've begun carrying her toilet insert in what used to be our diaper bag. She will tell us when she has to go, but when we get in there, even with her seat, she kind of freaks out and will pee but then stop mid-stream. Any suggestions? We have a cross-country flight on Friday and I'm a little worried.

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Hello everyone! I was determined to try ECing when my DD was born but she was one of those babies who seems to pee and poo completely randomly at first - and she was producing about 15 poos a day! - so i didn't happen for a long time.

However, much to my amazement, we're now doing a kind of EC-lite with our DD who is currently 9 mo. From the time she was tiny she almost always peed when we were changing her diaper and I tried to help her be aware of that by commenting whenever it happened and making a 'psss' noise. Then someone gave us an infant potty when she was about 7 mo, and since then we've been offering it to her whenever we change her diaper, and roughly every 45 minutes to an hour. There are on- and off-days, but on average she probably pees in it about two times out of three, and usually she has a couple of dry diapers a day which we can just put back on her.

I haven't been good at figuring out when she needs to pee other than through timing, and poops are hopeless- they just seem completely random to me and she's a silent pooper! It would be great if we could start catching them as her poops have become a bit formidable since she went on solids at 6 months....

I have one question - sometimes she gets upset when we go into the bathroom or when we sit her on the potty. I'm assuming it's always best not to force it, right? I mean I shouldn't try to make her sit on the potty if she's crying. I think it may be because she's at a stage where she's dying to be off exploring (crawling), but also, sometimes I have a feeling it's because she's already peed in her diaper, or doesn't need to pee just then.

Thanks for the great thread!
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