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#31 of 42 Old 11-14-2006, 03:36 PM
 
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Yeah, if word got out that OBs were not necessary for normal birth, they'd be out of a job.



Thanks, but I'll stay at home.

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First--it doesn't matter what the statistics are or the studies show, mothers still have the right to decide where and with whom they give birth, (and of course they are wrong about the evidence)
and second--it's time for Moms to get really mad again. The problem is that the midwives are mostly carrying the political ball here, and we are busy midwifing! Moms have their babies and wander off to mother--til their next baby.
Third--its so very clever of them to not say you can't have your baby out of hospital--just that they will nail anyone who tries to help you. But they are SO worried about your safety.
fourth--you can have an on-demand section tho--I guess there's great research --no--rigorous research to support that?
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Kip, it is so great to see you on MDC!
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Becki--Do you know if the ACNM has been working with NARM on preparingn their response to the statement?

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From what I'm hearing, both MANA and AABC have been involved.
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I think my favorite part of the statment is this:

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For these reasons, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) believes that the hospital, including a birthing center within a hospital complex, that conforms to the standards outlined by American Academy of Pediatrics and ACOG,1 is the safest setting for labor, delivery, and the immediate postpartum period.
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Well duh! We set the standard of care, and we have a duty to protect those hospitals that pay us big $$ for licensing OUR standard of care!

ACOG is trying to protect it's own interests in licensing their "standard" as well as protect the doctors who are members. Not to mention, taking aim at the insurance companies, some of which DO reimburse for midwifery care.
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I haven't read the other posts, so sorry if I'm repeating, but this is what I see when I read that statement:

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We at ACOG know that if you choose to birth at home or in unaffiliated birth centers, we will lose money on the interventions and C-sections you would be pressured to have. We want to encourage you to birth in hospitals so we can continue to get as much money as we can.
If that's not a conflict of interest, I don't know what is!

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As a mama that had a (overall good experience with midwife-attended) hospital birth with my first, and is now planning on a FSBC birth with #2, what can I do to help? I'd love to have a homebirth one day, but the FSBC route was the best for us this time around for financial and other reasons.

Who do I have weight with? Who do I write? Our FSBC is well loved in the community, and the thought of that option not being available makes me want to cry for all of the women like myself that for various reasons need that option avaiable, as well as the option of homebirth.

I love to advocate, to write letters...I just want to know where to direct my energy most effectively at present (I'll be 37 weeks pregnant tomorrow so I'm running out of energy LOL).

Please let those of us that would like to speak up for our midwives and our choices know where to best direct our efforts, please.
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Grrrrr.....:

Even if it were "safer" to be in a hospital, that is not the ONLY concern with women like me who choose to homebirth!!

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Check out the OBGYN.net forum for the discussion on it. There is a doctor who assisted in the verbage and doesn't much enjoy being challenged on his "feeling" that this is correct but dismisses other opinions that might be "emotionally" based. Ha! His feeling is not an emotion apparently.

If you need a link to it, PM me I don't want to violate the link-up rule to another forum.
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Check out the OBGYN.net forum for the discussion on it. There is a doctor who assisted in the verbage and doesn't much enjoy being challenged on his "feeling" that this is correct but dismisses other opinions that might be "emotionally" based. Ha! His feeling is not an emotion apparently.

If you need a link to it, PM me I don't want to violate the link-up rule to another forum.
Ok, I feel a lot more enlightend now. One of the policy authors is from my home state where we came dangerously close to passing a bill legalizing DEM's last year. He states that this new policy is in response to such initiatives. Got it. I'm guessing next year they are hoping this will silence those OB's who embarassed the AMA by testifying in favor of the bill last year. Very nice.

OK, just since this has me so down, want a laugh? The AMA sent a professional lobbyist to testify against the bill. After issuing all these dire predictions of dead babies, dead mothers, and so on....

A committee member said 'Do you have any studies to support these contentions?'

Silence.

"Um, no."

"Thank you, that will be all."

I can only hope that the legislators will be that sharp in the upcoming session!
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For those interested, the ACNM published a response today cosigned by a variety of organizations, including MANA.

http://www.acnm.org/education.cfm?id=1005
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Of COURSE they oppose. Midwives attend homebirths, not Ob/gyn's. The more women who birth at home, the more power, control, and money ob/gyn's lose! If all women birthed at home that's more than half of their practice/duties/income, gone out the window! They'd have no women left on whom to perform unnecessary C-sections!

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