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can I vent for a second about my complete frustration that straights think they have the right to tell queers what they can and can't do. I'm so freaking sick of this whole thing. I'm tired of straights getting to decide if gays are good enough to be able to keep their children, adopt, marry, shit live even it seems like.

the superiority required to think you have the right to tell someone who they can love and the ability of homophobes to intimidate people into being int he closet just freaking pisses me off.

sorry to highjack your thread.

 
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I voted too.

And to continue the OT:
I have to agree with Arduinna and robyn. It is disgusting that some people feel they have the right to dictate another persons heart and feelings because they can't understand or accept it. I know they are ignorant (that's pretty damn clear from what they try to do), but how much of an a$$ can you be to purposefully try to keep someone else from being happy (and having the rights they deserve!)? Ugh, this topic sickens me.
 
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I just voted, too-- so far the poll results are:

32.85% (239504 votes) -- I oppose legalization of homosexual marriage and "civil unions."
59.15% (431220 votes) -- I favor full legalization of homosexual marriage.
8.00% (58296 votes)-- I favor a "civil union" with the full benefits of marriage except for the name.

Wonder if they're still planning to share the results with congress.


Not to add fuel to the fire, but here's their "position statement" on homosexuality:

Does AFA Hate Homosexuals?
Absolutely Not! The same Holy Bible that calls us to reject sin, calls us to love our neighbor. It is that love that motivates us to expose the misrepresentation of the radical homosexual agenda and stop its spread though our culture. AFA has sponsored several events reaching out to homosexuals and letting them know there is love and healing at the Cross of Christ.

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: There's just so much wrong with that statement, I don't know where to begin. Got to wonder how "radical" the "homosexual agenda" is when in their own poll 60% of respondents support full legalization of homosexual marriage.
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#14 ·
Oh dear! I seem to have stumbled into a hotbed of radical homosexual organizing!


But seriously, whenever I see stuff like this, hear about people like this I pray. I pray that God will forgive them for perverting Her message of love. I pray that they will see the light. And I pray that queers know that not all Christians think that way.
 
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Arduinna...:LOL

Kama...Thanks!! I just came out to my parents and my bro...my sis has known for a while...she's had some experiences with girls in her past...knew she'd be sympathetic... My mom is catholic, dad and bro are Born again christians...all believe being gay is a sin and that I need to repent...my dad thinks I am possessed by the devil...sigh...well...that was their first reaction anyway. They seem to be somewhat adjusting and I've told them that to flood me with anti-gay stuff, telling me to repent my sins was going to drive me away, not endear me to them...nothing would change things for me and my opinion on the rightness/wrongness of being gay...it has never been an issue for me...ever...they seem to be dealing with it little by little...no more anti-gay stuff in the mail, too.
 
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Robyn, sorry about your families reaction to your coming out.



I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling pretty worn out lately. Just so sick of dealing with people filled with hate. I was telling dp over the weekend that I just don't feel that I fit in anywhere in this country. Between my spiritual beliefs, political ones and loving women but being married to man I'm a freak. Which usually doesn't bother me, at least it didn't used to bother me as much but lately I'm dreaming of that island where I'm no longer the minority in every part of who I am. Or I'd at least accept a place where others accepted that I have a right to live my life without being expected to hide who I am.
 
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Robyn, Congrats on your coming out! It usually gets better with time, but you may be in for some more "Love in Action"/Exodus type literature for a while. (My dp is an ex-ex-gay...well, never all the way ex-, but you know...) Anyway, even her parents are nice to me now since I produced their first (and still only 'til dp has our 2nd in June) grandchild.

Arduinna, hey the public rhetoric is ugly right now, but it's because of the positive progress in 2003. (Sodomy laws unconstitutional, Massachusetts maybe/hopefully providing a route to legal same-gender marriage, it's possible that 2nd parent adoption is about to be available in my state....) Being a bi with a guy or bi with a girl means always having to say you're queer. What a pain.

The closest experience I have is that since having dc and growing out my (previously very short) hair, I'm not an obvious lesbian. It's very very wierd to be perceived to be heterosexual at 44 when I came out at 17 and have always struck people as d*key-looking. But I can come out to people in a straightforward way by mentioning dp or "dc's other mom."

Anyway, I think the public rhetoric is going to get even worse, despite Cheney's and Gebhart's(?) lesbian daughters. The presidential campaign is going to bring a lot of this ugliness up.

But, honey, if I get to marry my dp this May when she's 8 months pregnant and get put on the little one's birth certificate without having to go through an adoption, they can yammer on all they like.
 
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thank you


I don't know what I would do without you guys!!

ITA agree with you that in the end it will all be worth it once we all get the equal rights we deserve.

I'm actually more frustrated at the people I have to deal with that are homophobes than the media in general. but that is a topic for another thread.
 
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Hi Kama!

I think that I used to be an activist and now just live my life, but the people around me continue to refer to me as an activist. As you know (!) running after a 3 y. old (and working and picking up slack for pregnant dp...we use only occasional substitute care and both work 80%) honestly I can't really think what I'm doing that's so active!

DP and I help coordinate a glbt (parents) playgroup through our local glbt parents/wanna be parents org. I agreed to be part of an "oral history" project for the local middle school. I turn up when asked to, but don't go seeking after chances to do so.

I live a long plane ride from Mass. My state isn't likely to pass any "y'all go ahead and get hitched" legislation soon. But the part of the state that I live in is a hotbed of liberals and homosexuals (and attachment parents.)

I think it's kind of like advocating breastfeeding. I don't criticize anybody for the choice she makes, but I talk in ways that assume everyone breastfeeds until her little one is all done. I've donated my milk when it would help.

I commute to a good paying, completely flexible houred job full of shall we say Republicans who are shall we say not fully supportive of same-gender marriage. I clamp my jaw shut, keep my internet screen on MDC (lurking), and take home my paycheck (and domestic partner benefits) to my beautiful and growing family.
 
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Arduinna... I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't accept you or your aid in activism. Before I left California about 7 years ago I was very active in the battle to confirm recognition of marriages from other states. (This was around the time that it looked like Hawai'i might be the first state with queer marriage.) It was an interesting step thru the looking glass in some ways. Whenever I turned up at meeting, when I went to clubs and events to help with signature drives.. everyone assumed I was queer. I had to repeatedly 'come out' as straight. The funny thing was watching people have the same reaction that I know I have to realising someone was different than I had assumed. "Oh." A slight cock of the head... blink, blink.. nod. "Okay!" Just the few moments it takes to refile someone in your mental rolladex!

I ask in part because I am thinking about jumping into church politics where I attend regularly and work towards our church declaring itself "Open and Affirming"... which is to say, totally welcoming of Queers. Hang a rainbow banner, etc. I am very new to church attendance and know zero about councils and committees and how any of this stuff works. But I'm thinking, hey, we're a smallish church, full of good hearted people who I think would, in general, be open to this. All I probably need to do is put it to them... maybe they just haven't thought of it. So I asked my pastor. He said that a process like that, getting it through the appropriate committees, smoothing ruffled feathers, discussing, answering questions, defining terms and projecting ramifications, blah de blah blah... would probably take about a year if it goes moderately smoothly. I had no idea. I don't know if I have the energy. I don't know if I am the right person for the job as I have a tendency to get rather, well... hot under the collar... when I think people are being unreasonable. (Read 'when they won't just shut up and think what I told them they should think!'
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I'm concerned about being accepted because our community center doesn't even include bi in their name, it's the gay and lesbian community center. So that has me scared to even call and ask if they have any support for bi people.

Dang, I barely have anyone to talk about this with as it is and I'm not that integrated myself as to who I am. Hell, I afraid to just go there, I think I'd break down just from seeing so many of us in one place.

I must commend you for your effort, I think it's a awesome idea. I can completely understand how overwhelming it must seem. Alot of steps.

 
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