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#421 of 756 Old 05-15-2011, 09:54 AM - Thread Starter
 
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Wehrli: Though you may not want to invest in it if you already have the Ergo, a great Ergo alternative that enables front-facing carries is the Beco Gemini baby carrier.  I really debated between the Ergo and the Beco for my registry, especially because the Beco is really hard to find in stores to try out.  I spoke with several people (including the owner of a carrier store) and decided on the Beco, mainly because of the front-facing option (my DD loved front facing in the Bjorn, but my back can't take another Bjorn) and also because it doesn't need the newborn insert.  Its back panel is apparently more structured than the Ergo, limiting sagging when they are little or sleeping.  If you got a full-sized Moby (or lovely batik alternative ;-), you could probably use it for front-facing carries, too, right?

 

Starling: Hooray for 19 weeks!  Wow--you are really zooming along, huh?  I, too, feel that being so busy lately has made the second trimester just fly by.  I can't believe that I'm in my third tri already!  And I'm feeling it, too--much more tired now than I was even a week ago.  Thankfully, my summer work schedule should leave time for naps.  Just one more graduate paper to grade and then paperwork to do...and then I'm off to the land of research/writing from home until the babe shows up.  Yay!


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Wehri, lots of pictures came up just fine for Sara,so I got to see them.  Your second link came up perfectly for me, just now.  You could easily get the material of your choice at a fabric store if you sew at all.  If you don't sew, just get a narrower cut.  There are ways to finish the ends without sewing, but I have a bad habit of letting mine fray (I like the look).  If you go to joanne's make sure you use a coupon.  They usually have a stack of their fliers at the front of the store.  And if you just want the other half of ours, you could pay.  Half of it would be $15.

 

Escher, I told you, we're practically neighbors.  I think we're looking at traveling to your part of the country sometime late summer or early fall.  I will make a mental note to bring produce.  The no cry sleep solution isnt' bad.  It didn't work for me, but probably because the way I expect books to work is, set it on the bedside table and voila!  That one takes some work.  But it has a special chapter for people who start early, like you.  Any work plan that works sounds great!  Even if it is complicated.  I don't know if it would work for either of your work situations to do fewer longer days (like 4 10s or 3 12s) or if either of you could work from home for a day or 2 a week, but those are options for some folks.  It's obviously harder getting work done while parenting, but a lot of people enjoy it enough to do it.

 

Starling, I love slings, I could talk about them all day long.  Even more than I like talking about EC or nursing.  Its the big 3 things that make life easier!  Big yes on the woven wrap thing.  Big yes on the nursing on demand thing.  It doesn't take long to put a baby on your back, but generally my kids went on my back when I was not expecting them to nurse.  Like, baby just nursed, burped, peed, is sleepy.  Baby goes on back.  I throw in a load of wash, make lunch (they all say, don't cook with a child in a sling... no comment), eat, play with toddler, hang up the laundry, take kids to the park.  Ari would sleep on my back until I stopped moving or her bladder was full.  So then it went pull her down, potty, nurse, potty, play, nurse, burp, pee, back up on the back for another nap.  That is a newborn, of course.  Older babies I'm more likely to only put up for taking walks and *brief interruption, the kid is really starting to kick harder* shopping and stuff like that.  I really wasn't on the run nearly as much with one little baby as I was with a toddler and a baby.  Ari was on my back from 3 days on.  The rucksack carry is the easiest carry to get down.  It's just like taking off a backpack.  In a regular sling you can just lift one arm and pull the baby around to your hip or front to nurse, and then just shift her back again when she's done.  The African back carry (notice, they all let go of the baby.  I can't explain the physics of it, but even Ari just lay on my back while I tied her in) is really easy to get in and out of, too.  To dismount, you just have to pull at one strategic point and catch the baby.  But the rucksack carry is nice for a tiny baby because it offers a lot of support (and the more you do it and undo it, the faster you get.  Oh hell, I was just looking up links to show you and this one came up showing how to nurse the baby while they're still in a back carry.  Who knew?  The links used to be easier to find when wearyoubaby.org was still up.  This site has many many great carries, but it doesn't really touch on the short sling.

 

 

 
 

 


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Thanks for the links, Seraf!  Going to check them out now. 

 

Oh, and Escher ... The No Cry Sleep Solution was useless to us, but I have heard that it works for some folks.  We liked The Happiest Baby on the Block, by Dr. Harvey Karp.  I'm a particular fan of his 5 s's for soothing babies:  Swinging, shushing, swaddling, side/stomach position, sucking.  I love that his strategies work for attachment parenting (ie. suck = nurse on demand, swing = in arms), but are also accessible to people that I am trying to indoctrinate  encourage away from crying it out (suck = pacifier, swing = machine).  I love his theory of the fourth trimester, which is basically permission and encouragement for new parents to indulge in that tiny, warm, helpless new human and forget about everything else for a while.  And I think if this is done, it often leads to a natural instinct to parenting with attachment principles in mind.

 

Having said that.  I am NOT a fan of his toddler book.  Not at all.

 

And having said that, I am not a fan of parenting books in general.  I find that they tend to make new parents feel inadequate, or scare them into doing things that they may not feel naturally inclined to do.  I would caution everyone away from purchasing them and instead advise that you borrow them from friends or the library, and then if one truly speaks to you, buy that one.  We have no parenting books in the house.  None.  And no pregnancy books either. I find them crazy-making.  And children are so particular and unique that I often find so much of the material is either fleeting or entirely irrelevant to most children.  Ultimately, YOU are the expert on your child.  Trust your gut.  And arm yourself with various tools that other people (whose parenting style you admire, which is key) have said work for them, so that when you're down to the nitty gritty, you can pull something out and try it.   

 

Having said THAT, I would add that a good breastfeeding book is handy to have on hand for troubleshooting.  The LLL puts one out.  It was a lifesaver for me.  And Diaper Free, or one of those books, if you're doing that.  I consider those more like instruction manuals laying out concrete things to DO, whereas the parenting books are typically about milestones to be met or alarms that should go off if not met, unrealistic expectations, and an tendency to make most folks feel like their not quite up to snuff. 

 

Having said all that, I would say that if you're feeling way out of your comfort zone, then read, read, read and read some more.  So long as you're reading books that are in keeping with your philosophies of parenting.  ie.  Natural Family Living vs. the What to Expect fearmongering series.  Depending on where your values lie.  But being on Mothering, I'm guessing which one you'd be more likely to reach for.

 

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Hahaha, Starling, I think I love you.  And I prefer the 9 months in, 9 on theory, but a 4th trimester doesn't exclude a 5th and 6th, right?  

 

Sara's parents asked what we need for the baby, and what can they buy us?  Egads.  I spent the last decade figuring out what I can live without, I'm not used to thinking about things that can be bought.  So, what does one need for a baby?  (I will say that the best baby gift ever was my first digital camera)


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Starling: I like the third trimester theory, too, mainly because it makes me feel free to do whatever feels best for 3 months without any thought about patterns, routines, habits, etc. 

 

Seraf: I love those sling pics, and I'm eager to check out the links. Thank you. One question: in that last pic, how does the sling stay up? It looks like it isn't around your shoulders at all.  I can see how it would be super comfy...I'm just not sure how it works.

 

We had a great presentation from a lactation consultant at the birth class today.  Wow--I really wish I'd known her when DD was born.  Based on the latest research (she is earning a PhD in lactation--didn't even know that was possible!), the most useful things she said were...

1) In the first 6 hours after birth to establish milk supply.  Otherwise, milk supply can be delayed by a few days or more.  So if the babe is very sleepy, drugged out, or whatever, and not into nursing yet, insist that the hospital get you a pump and pump on each side for 15 minutes.

2) Work hard on the asymmetrical latch.  In other words, the babe's nose should line up with the nipple, so the babe should not come at the nipple straight on but rather have to lift hir head slightly up and over the nipple (with help from head support, obviously, at the beginning) so that the lower jaw is working the tissue behind/under the nipple (not on or very near it!). 

3) If you do have to supplement in the hospital, throw out most of the 2oz bottle they give you; babes a day old only need 1/2 oz at a time, and if they have too much, they'll go into a sleep stupor and not be interested in nursing again any time soon. 

4) Nursing should never hurt. If it does, get help from a lactation consultant (not the nurse).

5) If you do need to pump to establish supply, rent a hospital grade pump, since they are many times more effective than even the best pumps on the market. 

6) If you are unsure if your baby is getting enough milk, rent a baby scale and see for yourself.

7) Hormone-induced lactation recedes around 3/ 1/2 mo (when many moms go back to work), at which point milk supply is maintained "mechanically," not hormonally.  If you experience a drop in supply at that time and/or have a hard time getting milk with your pump, rent a hospital grade pump for a few weeks to get through the transition.

 

So that's what I learned in breastfeeding class today.

 

My GTT is tomorrow morning, so I'm officially fasting and really hoping for a good result tomorrow. 

 

Update: my grades are in!  I'm not teaching again until mid-January--so excited! Now the pressure is on to get my book proposal and revised sample chapters out to publishers before the babe shows up, but I'm ready for it.  I'm just relieved to be off the hamster wheel of the semester. 

 

Oh--and my doula felt my belly and is sure that as of today, the babe is head down and back out (anterior, right?).  smile.gif


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Amanda, good luck on your GTT.  You probably won't need it, but good luck not killing anyone as a side effect of fasting.  The african back carry, that one's called.  It's done with about 2 yards of cloth (for someone my size, but you're close, I think).  It's in the links.  It is mostly just friction.  It goes above your breasts, so they help with upward support, but I try to get it high enough that it's not pulling down on the girls.  I can still do that one with Ari, and she's closing in on 50 pounds, so it might just be magic.


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AHope - good luck today! 


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sara and Seraf, thanks for the offer on the fabric... I totally would have bought the 5 yard remnant, however it looks like the moby is 6 yards long and since I feel like the one I have is too short, I'm just gonna go buy some fabric. but your offer made me realize I can do just that, "make" my own! orngbiggrin.gif

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Just popping in to say to Escher that we bought the Cosco Scenara for my mom's car, and I hesitate to recommend it. It is well-rated safety wise, and light and affordable, but I could.not.do a rear-facing install for the life of me (and I'm pretty good at such things). We actually had to take it to the car seat tech to get him to do it for us. I then refused to move the seat until DD outgrew it rear-facing and I had to turn it around.

 

It's fine for a forward-facing install, but since you'll want to keep the baby rear-facing for as long as possible, you're looking at several years of total PITA installations every time you want to ride in a taxi or a friend's car.

 

So overall, I think it's fine for a seat that's going to STAY in a car, but not a great choice for a seat that you're going to use as your spare and move around all the time. Which is a bummer, since that's what we bought it for.

 

Also, another FYI on it, is that my DD outgrew it rear-facing earlier than I would have liked. She's almost 3, and is still rear-facing in her Britax Marathon, but she outgrew the Scenara months ago. So, if you have grandparents buying carseats and such, I would steer them toward a Britax or a Radian, even though they're more $$.

 

Good luck! And, you probably already figured this out, but there are lots of helpful parents in the Family Safety forum who love to recommend carseats for every situation.:)


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Esher my sons been in a my ride65 sense birth it's big but light and can install with a buckle
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Ahope, you done with the grading?  Grading w/out alcohol, stimulants or junk food is just painful.  Thanks for the breastfeeding tips!  I just finished LLL’s book on multiples and it was incredibly helpful in terms of thinking about how to get a good start on breastfeeding even if the babies are in the NICU or are too young to latch at first etc.  And the book continually reiterates the get them on the boob or get a hospital grade pump on there w/in the first 6 hours message.  And, yay for a head down baby!  Keep us updated on the GD test.

Mizyellow, so sorry about the ultrasound ☹.  Our baby A is like that.  Never ever ever shows its face to the ultrasound, yet moves constantly, what?  

Seraf, I love love love your response to the little one who asked if you were a boy!  Brilliant.  As for pigment changes – I’ve got that darn line all the way up to my boobs!  

Wherli, Such a little muncher.  I love the pictures!

Julietea, oh wow.  Sounds like an awesome present.  I agree with the “losing it” strategy.  Our gender politics are, ahem, more radical than most and I shudder to see what the relatives will buy for us should either or both of the twins be female.  We’ve trained them for ds (though they still ignore is absolute LOVE of all things princess in favor of his love of dinosaurs).

Starling, so agree with Happiest Baby on the Block.  That book saved us with ds.  I’m rereading it right now just to brush up on the 5 S’s.  The other book I would recommend, which is not about baby care, but about helping you develop a parenting philosophy in general, is Becoming the Parent You Want to Be.  It’s very progressive in terms of gender and sexuality and reads more like a book of tools that might or might not be useful than a “how to” manual to raise children in a particular way.  

AFM, I made it to 33 weeks!!  Hopefully I can hang in there for at least another two! Yesterday I was so uncomfortable, it was actually the first time I was happy that my medical team had put me on bedrest, since I don’t think I could physically do anything else.  

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Oh, right ... carseats, forgot about that, escher.   We have a Radian Sunshine Kids that is a breeze to install rear-facing and has a narrow profile.  It can be used from birth, right on up.  We love it.  My only word of advice when purchasing a convertible carseat is to check the manufacture date.  Our was manufactured in 2008, so it's older than we would like.  We didn't notice because my mom bought it and used it for a while before giving it to us when our bucket seat expired, and dd won't be able to use it all the way up because it will expire before she'll age or size out of it.  Bummer that. 


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cejae ... That's awesome about making it to 33 weeks!  Keep cooking, littles!  I'll have to look up that book, sounds good.  I keep meaning to read Alfie Kohn's Unconditional Parenting and Gabor Maté's Hold onto your Kids, which reminds me that I should request them when we go to storytime at the library today.   As for books for you to read while on bedrest, I'd love to hear your opinions on Annabel, by Kathleen Winters, which is a novel about an intersexed child born to parents in a remote First Nations community in Canada's north (Labrador).  It got huge critical praise up here, but I have some pretty big opinions about it.  Would love to hear yours if you ever get around to reading it!


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Starling, I can't believe I didn't know that Kohn has a book on parenting.  DP (a teacher) is a *huge* fan of his.  Adding it to my "to read" list right now.  I can't wait to read Annabel!  For being a fairly normatively gendered cis-female, I have *huge* opinions on all things sex and gender related, so I'm intrigued.  Thanks for the recs!


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Hi all.

 

That would be so great, Library, if we could have folks send us take out from great restaurants around the country! I hope you enjoy your visit with your DP's mom... maybe there's long nap on the horizon for you with an extra helper around?

 

Seref, excellent to get the diaper vid and the carry photos! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge in these ways. Helps stuff sink in better than reading sometimes. By the way, I don't think you seemed anxious on camera. Maybe we all think that about ourselves. I have a hard time listening to myself even narrating a video.

 

Wehrli, I love those sweet pics of Silas. . . awesome hair, cute ducky get-up, and such a sweet little sleeper in your Moby. (Also, like that Righteous Babe magnet on your fridge.::) Glad to hear you're feeling good and getting the hang of everything so quickly. We had a walk with a couple of friends yesterday and their sweet new boy babe. It sounds like they settled into their groove around week 7 or 8. Different for every family and baby I'm sure.

 

Amanda (and Seref): You're gardens sound incredible. Yum, raspberries. We're trying to harvest the last of our favas to get more space in our beds, but have a bunch of other good stuff growing. An urban farmer friend of mine brought loofas to a party last weekend that she'd grown. I guess they are sort of like a climbing squash... you crack open the fruit and inside... an exfoliating sponge. How awesome!

 

Your plan for the next couple of years sounds great, Escher. It doesn't really sound that complicated to me and I'm looking forward to hearing how it works out for you. I think our plan will just have to involve some change in consumption and spending to tell you the truth. Childcare, like everything, is so crazy expensive out here. It's hard to pay for something that you don't really want... so I'm hoping to have at least 2 days, maybe 3 at home. Last year we were sitting around at dinner with our cousin and her partner talking about TTC. DW and I are very close to them and we all joked that it would be great if we could live w/in baby monitor reach of their house. So, we jumped on a house right near them which was really too expensive for us because it required all sorts of work. Somehow we managed financially to pull off that work in the last year, and now I'd like to stop leaking money everywhere, reduce our income and enjoy our family life with fewer work obligations. I guess that's the heart of the plan. Redirect our limited resources to what's most important.

 

Starling, you new co-op and your soon-to-be garden sound beautiful. And, thanks for the coffee shop suggestion. I love it. (And, the other suggestions on the board... leaving it at her house is a good idea, Seref.) Our anatomy scan is on the 24th as well, and I'm ready for it now!

 

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Julie: My midwife said that first time moms might not notice movement until as late as 24 weeks, at which point they do seem to get nervous.  So you have quite a ways to go.  I'd give it another week or so--I bet you'll feel more by 20 weeks.  The babe is growing fast now.  Glad to hear that the rhinestones were imagined ;-), but it still sounds over the top.

 

Starling and Seraf: Thanks for the parenting book recs.  I think I might make a trip to the library and have a look. 

 

Thanks for the GTT wishes, everyone.  It was not a pleasant morning, but as long as I was in the office, I got them to do a cervix check and test for a UTI just in case the intermittent cramping I've had actually means anything.  My cervix is closed tight, which was a relief, and I'll find out about the UTI and GD tomorrow.  Fingers crossed for the results I need to maintain a low-key pregnancy!

 

 


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My DP really enjoyed Kohn's Unconditional Parenting...I haven't read the whole thing but liked what I did read. I recently took Respectful Parents, Respectful Kids out of the library and even though I didn't get to read much of it, it was fairly interesting. I also took out Playful Parenting but I didn't get past the front cover. I tend to take 20 books out of the library at a time thinking that of course I'll have time to read them all ;) Oh, and DP also really enjoyed 2 books by Magda Gerber (RIE method)...I didn't read them and I can't remember the titles.


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Thanks for the encouragement, Amanda. I'm sure I'll feel something a little more clear soon. And, my anatomy scan is next Tuesday, which we hope will be a great little peek. Hoping for good results for you today! dust.gif


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VENTING

 

Grrrr.  I'm trying to set up  the second parent adoption process and I feel like no one in Colorado has ever even heard of it!  Lawyers have no set fees for a second parent adoption (totally different than CA), the county clerk treated me as if I had 5 heads when I asked her about it, and the lawyers themselves seemed confused about the entire process.  Sigh.  So much different than California. 

 

Done venting now.  I'm sure this sort of thing can't be helping my blood pressure!


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Cejae... I'm sorry this is such a pain in the @#4* there. irked.gif I'm guessing that you are familiar with NCLR but I thought I'd post information for their helpline on the off chance that it would be, er, a help. DW used to work there, but still calls them up with questions now and then.

 

NCLR's Legal Helpline is available via phone during regular business hours (9AM-5PM PST). Please call 415.392.6257 or toll-free 1.800.528.6257 and ask for the Legal Helpline.


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Aw, thanks Julie!  Here's the crazy thing, all the lawyers/law firms I was calling were GLBT or GLBT friendly and they still had no clue!  I did finally find one who knows exactly what she is doing, has a set fee for the adoptions (I've never heard of a lawyer charging by the hour for second parent adoptions), took the time to walk me through the entire process on the phone and even suggested that we can do it in Denver rather than Co Springs so we don't have to risk getting some kind of wacko judge (or homestudy agency) here!  So I'm feeling greatly relieved.  But reaffirmed in my sense that Colorado as a state is a wee bit provincial and behind the times, even though I love it :). 

 

Do you guys have an adoption lawyer yet?  We worked with a great on in SF for ds if you want a recommendation :).

 

 


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Hi Everyone,

Cejae: Ugh. I'm sorry you're having to deal with so many clueless people around the second parent adoption. I hope that someone is able to help make the process easier soon. Congratulations on 33 weeks!

Julietea: It's exciting that your anatomy scan is so soon! Like you, we're definitely looking carefully at how we can keep our expenses low so that we can do what we want to do.

AmandaHope: Any news on the GD test? fingersx.gif

Starling: Thanks for the suggestion of the Radian Sunshine Kids. It's neat that the frame folds flat for storage! At the moment parenting books just seem like interesting stories about how other people choose to do things, but I'll certainly keep in mind that I don't have to read them if they start to stress me out. I should reread Happiest Baby. Thanks for thinking of that.

Graceie: I'll have to check out the Graco My Ride 65 too. It looks comfortable. Thanks for the recommendation!

AngelaM: It's good to know that the Cosco Scenara isn't a good choice for taking in and out of cars. We're also looking for a second carseat to install more permanently in the grandparents' car--maybe we should consider it for that? I had forgotten about the Family Safety forum--thanks for that reminder.

Seraf: It's fun that you might be travelling down my way sometime late summer or early fall!

Wehrli: Thanks for the pictures! Silas is such a sweet little one. love.gif

AFM: I think we're going to take a BirthWorks class with a local lesbian teacher. We had wanted a Brio class, but they all meet far away from us, and we would rather make friends with people who live somewhere near us. The timing isn't perfect--the last class session will be when we're almost 38 weeks--but I think it will work.

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Cejae: Glad you found a lawyer who sounds at least somewhat informed!  The first lawyer I called here (Chicago area) is an apparent expert in adoptions of all kinds, but she charges the same for a routine second-parent adoption as for a stranger adoption facilitated by a private agency ($2500)!  I couldn't believe it.  I then found someone else who seems perfectly fine who charges about a third that.  And we can also do the adoption in Chicago (Cook Co) instead of our suburban county, since there is a new and unknown family court judge out here in the burbs that the lawyer doesn't trust.  I agree that doing this in CA was easier, but it looks like we'll both make it out in the gay hinterlands ;-). 

 

Escher: I wanted a Brio class, too, but it is an hour away (near our midwives), so Bradley will have to do for us.  But I'm excited (and envious) that you found a lesbian class! I hope you like it.

 

AFM: GD test was normal!  Yay!  I'm so relieved!  I just can't believe I had to go through that evil test yesterday when there wasn't even a problem--typical medical model, right?  Ugh.  I'm all bruised up on my right arm where the (really good) nurse had to poke me two times (the left one is fine--who knows).  And the AFP (measuring a chemical that indicates high risk of labor in next few weeks) was negative, too, so that's extra insurance on the cervix being closed up.  I'm having plenty of contractions--mostly BH but some low down, now and then (several a day), but now I'll relax and believe the midwives that it is the subsequent pregnancy and possibly "irritable" uterus wink1.gif rather than a problem.  A woman from my birth class was just hospitalized with preterm labor at 28 weeks; they've stopped the labor and she should be ok to return home on meds and complete bedrest, but I feel terrible for her.  Poor munchkin. 

 

Mmm...made this for dinner.

 


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AHope, WAHOO!!!  I'm so so so happy for you on both counts!  Promise me you will eat a super big hot fudge sunday for me, okay?  And I'm so swiping that dinner recipe from you for when I am allowed to cook again - looks fabulous.  I hear you about the burbs.  While I actually don't like living in a city (it exhausts me and I hate noise) I like being near one precisely because of issues like these!  And $2500 - wow!  That is a lot.  Here looksl ike the going rate (not including the home study) is about 1200-1500. Of course we're going to close to double that with twins.  I've decided retirement accounts are totally overrated.  I'll be working until I'm 90 to pay off the costs of Bookshelf and Pinnochio! 

 

Escher, thanks for you congrats on the 33 weeks.  I'm feeling pretty happy about it myself!  It's great that you can take a lesbian led birth class (even if the timing isn't ideal).  We did that at Maia midwifery for ds and it was such a great experience.  So great that we aren't even taking one this time because it would pale in comparison!  (well, that and I'm having a csection...so there is that).


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Oh, yeah!  Cejae: Awesome going on 33 weeks!  That is a serious accomplishment with twins, GD, and pre-e scares.  Those babes are going to be cooked and ready to go once their time comes.  Do you already have the c-section scheduled, by the way? And thanks for the happy support on the GTT.  I didn't have an ice cream Sunday, but I did make a strawberry coffee cake that I ate about 1/3 of.  Oops.  And I promised DD that I'd take her to the super yummy ice cream shop this weekend, so maybe I'll have that Sunday for you then.  Yum.  You should have one of your many lovely support people bring you a huge Sunday in the hospital after the babes are born.

 

 


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CJ, tell me more about your 2nd parent adoption... I just read that Colorado has outlawed them. they are outlawed in WI and we are looking for solutions...

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You read that Colorado outlawed them?  How weird!  We don't have domestic partnerships here yet (almost there!) but we do have inheritance rights, second parent adoption, protection from discrimination in the workplace, protection from discrimination in public accommodations/housing, specific GLBT antibullying statutes and designated beneficiary rights.  Quite frankly CO was off my list of places to apply for jobs until the second parent adoption law passed a few years back! 

 

That said, our friends had a child just before the second parent adoption law passed and what they did was petition a judge to have the non-gestational mother's name put on the birth certificate.  It's not a rock solid garuntee of legal parentage, but it goes a long way to prove intent should intent need to be proven in a court of law.  Plus, it makes the every day stuff (like getting a passport, flying on a plane with a minor etc) easier.  I'm happy to put you in touch with my friends so you can pick their brains if you would like. 

 

I'm not sure where in Wisconsin you are, but it seems like particular counties have a lot to do with whether or not a particular judge will grant a change in a birth certificate.  I'd google GLBT family law wisconsin and just start calling and talking to lawyers or call NCLR to see what advice they have or call a gay and lesbian center (I'm sure there is one in Madison, no?) to see if they have referrals? 

 

While I"m pissed that we will have to spend about 3500 for dp to adopt her own children, I'm more pissed that you don't even get that legal protection and that Walker is trying to ban same sex partners from visiting in a hospital?  What the hell is wrong with that man?  *Done Venting Now*.

 

Keep us updated, okay?  And again, I'm so sorry you even have to think about this stuff.

 

In happier news, just got back from my weekly midwife appt and my blood pressure continues to go down - 110/78.  Take that preeclampsia!   And the twins are freakin' huge.  They are in the 89th and 90th percentiles for size.  No wonder I can only sleep 4 hours a night because I'm so uncomfortable!  So I'm stoked.  I want them to at least hang in there until week 35 which is 1.5 weeks from now.  So we'll see if my short little torso can handle it.  I did find myself wondering at 2am (while watching Monk on Netflix) if it were possibly for a baby to literally kick a hole in my lungs.  :). 


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OMG, Cejae, 89th and 90th percentile? TWO of them?  It is a wonder you can sleep at all.  I'm really impressed by your positive attitude, though.  Growing two big babies in a small torso has got to be really, seriously difficult.  I can't believe you might only have 1.5 weeks to go--that is amazing.  Are you feeling (nearly) ready? Is DP?


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CJ, sorry I must have read outdated literature... good for you! thanks for the info, advice and support. walker is a douche, no doubt! we have checked into most of those things... unfortunately there isn't much wiggle room on the BC, it is listed as "mother" and "husband" as it stands and there has even been issue for birth fathers when the mother is still married to another man... the will list the husband instead of the father! can you believe it?! but lawyers have advised us that it isn't a probable win. we have been to conferences in Madison re this topic... we can't really afford to hire the only lawyer in WI that has had success with a lesbian couple adoption. so basically we will have to pay out the nose to try and trick the law... no 2nd parent adoption here but a same sex couple can jointly adopt a child. so I would "terminate" my rights as mother and we would then proceed with a joint adoption. hasn't always worked in the past, it depends on the judge... I guess. in better news, yay for low BP and big babies!! joy.gif

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