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#61 of 160 Old 11-11-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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Desert: Sorry it took me a day to get back to posting. I have re-read the poem I wanted to post and realize now that the poem is specifically about children who are adopted. I still think of you and your DP when I read it again. I especially think about everything you guys do and have done for those two sweet children and am simply at awe. I think foster parenting is an extra special kind of selfless parenting that I can't imagine that too many people could actually do. You guys are amazing.biggrinbounce.gif

 

Legacy of an adopted child: Once there were two women who never knew each other,

                                              One- you do not remember, the other you call mother.

                                               Two different lives shaped to make yours,

                                            One became your guiding star, the other became your sun.

                                              The first one gave you life, and the second taught you to live in it.

                                              The first one gave you a need for love and the second was there to give it.

                                              One gave you a nationality; the other gave you a name

                                              One gave you the seed of talent; the other gave you aim.

                                               One gave you emotions; the other calmed your fears.

                                                One saw your first sweet smile; the other dried your tears.

                                                  One gave you up- that's all sh could do.

                                                 The other prayed for a child and God led her straight to you.

                                               Now you ask through all your tears the age-old question through the years;

                                                  Heredity or environment-which are you a product of ?

                                                  Neither, my darling-neither-just two different kinds of love

 


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We are still pretty bummed out about AF, thanks for all the support. Thank you guys soo much for the tips I am really thinking acupuncture next cycle if there is a next cycle. I decided to try Robitussin (tussin the generic kind) this cycle, and I have been on Rainbow Light Prenatal One for 3 months and Bromocriptine for about 1 month. My RE and OB are not fazed by the first insem not working they say give it several months so i guess that's what I have to do.

 

When do you guys suggest I start the tussin and what dosage should I take?? also I been hearing a lot about pineapples what do they help with??

 

Brite- I seen your youtube video, I got to see "the little bean!!!" how excitingjoy.gif, I know you and DW must be over the moon.

 

Lezzy- Have fun on that NY trip I am dying to take a trip!

 

Babydust to us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! goodvibes.gifdust.gif


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Sky--Oh yea, if you think about it...most hetero couples are told that it will take approximately 6 months to get pregnant--and they have an unlimited supply of long living fresh sperm! Obviously some people get lucky on the first try...but it is pretty rare. It will happen for you!!! Pineapples are supposed to help thicken your lining and help with implantation--you are supposed to eat fresh slices (including core!!) every day for 5 days after you O (divide an entire pineapple up into 5 big slices). Some people swear by it. I tried it once but don't really have access to fresh pineapple where I live. Sorry, I don't know anything about Robitussin since the Fertili-Tea seems to really improve my CM. Have you done any internet searches? Check Babycenter forums--I feel like I saw a lot of posts on it in the past from there.

My OPKs are getting darker!!! Whoo hoo! Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend!

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Ok...so last post I said my OPKs were getting darker...I now take that back greensad.gif. Today they were even lighter than the day before and I *should* have a positive tomorrow. I am totally freaking out. Uggg.

I should probably stop posting so much...I feel like i have just taken over. smile.gif

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Lise, you haven't taken over!  Things have been kinda slow around here lately.  I'm so sorry your OPKs are getting lighter; wtf?  What do you think is going on?  

 

invitn, thank you for that poem.  It's beautiful; I find it interesting that I've never read that one before, as I'm very active in the adoption and foster care communities and I would think I'd have seen it!  Regardless, it struck home with me.  


Sky, good luck with acupuncture!  I always wanted DW to try, but it's very expensive and isn't covered by any insurance.  Instead of eating pineapple, my wife takes a supplement called Bromelain (it's the enzyme that is present in the core of the pineapple that supposedly aids in implantation).  She takes it from insem day until she's 5 DPO.  We aren't pregnant, so I can't swear to it, but I think it falls under the category of "can't hurt, might help".  

 

Not much here.  My wife is 7 DPO today, with nothing to report.  We've been operating under the assumption that my wife would be pregnant by the time our foster kids go home, and as we're halfway into our last TWW for this year... that may not actually be the case.  And our kids are going home in a month.  Things are kind of falling down around us, or so it seems.  The plan always has been to stop taking foster placements after these two go home... but that plan is now under reevaluation.  Sigh.  What to do, what to do.  

 

Our kids just got home from their first full weekend visit.  They are pretty quiet and reserved.  I can only imagine how confusing this must be for them.  We're watching Dora the Explorer together.  The little guy is seeming more like himself, but the little girl is having a hard time.  Poor kid.  

 

I hope everyone had a great weekend! 


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Sky: I like eating pineapple anyway. Just finished with eating some with cottage chz. My fav. I don't know about anybody else but trying to eat pineapple core is pretty hard for me bc of the tough texture and the super bitter taste. Of course I'll probably keep eating though.

 

Lise:No I don't think you are posting too much either. I know I've only been on here a couple of months but it feels like November is just a slow month for postings. So post away girlfriend, reading this forum is sometimes the highlight of my day. In other thoughts, have you ever tried digital OPK reader so you don't have to fool with interpreting what that little blue line means? Trying to interpret the surge and O is such an art form that I'm still trying to master. Good luck. shy.gif

 

Desert: I'm glad you like the poem. Wow what a difficult time for all the members of your household! Poor little guys and poor you and DP trying to deal with making sense of the kids leaving soon while you guys are trying to figure out what next to do re: ttc. Ugg..my thoughts are with you guys.hug.gif

 

AFM: So I think I might be 4 or 5 days past O. To be honest for the first time in this process I have no idea. Besides my LH surge coming on Day 13 (about 3 days earlier than usual) my temps have been only slightly steadily increasing. There hasn't been a dip or jump in temps so I'm kinda left scratching my head and just going with it. I can't help but think that getting on progestrone last month has something to do with all these crazy charting results. In addition, I actually worked all weekend and I'm exhausted. I foresee being able to make up for working this weekend maybe on the days following thanksgiving which isn't too far away. Wow time keeps ticking. I had one of those days in which almost everything that came out of my mouth had a sarcastic or pessimistic tone in some way or another. Stressors that typically don't get to me were really getting to me and my poor DW did what she could at the beginning of the day to cheer me up, but I wasn't having it. I don't know why that is but I definitely see at this point being willful didn't help the cause. Oh well, I think I'm going to try to meditate before bed and wish to cultivate a better spirit for tomorrow. Thanks for just listening everyone. With all that said, I was watching millionaire matchmaker today on BRAVO and suddenly for a just a moment I had a brilliant inspirational thought. Instead of praying or wishing to get pregnant, I thought it would be more hopeful and helpful to work on praying that I will be ready for pregnancy when I do become pregnant.

 

To all you reading this....have a great week and tons of baby dust.dust.gif


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Hi all. I am back after a week away visiting family - which was not as carefree as a regular vacation, but still great to see them and good to be distracted during the first week of the 2ww. I am now in the early part of week 2. Hope everyone is well - it may take me a little while to get caught up.


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desert--Yea for 7dpo! Is she planning on testing or waiting it out? Don't you wish you had a crystal ball? smile.gif At this time last year, if you would have told me that I wouldn't be pregnant or have a baby, I wouldn't believe it--especially since when I first started trying I got pregnant so quickly. Sometimes I do wish I could see into the future so I knew what to expect. I try and tell myself that "things happen for a reason and when it happens, it is meant to be" but it is so difficult to do.

invitn--I have used the smily ones before (I actually think they are more fun! smile.gif) but my positives are pretty apparent so I feel like I don't really need to spend the money to get them. I think the main reason I am freaking out is because in September I didn't have a surge. After tracking for a full year, it was the first time it ever happened to me (my fertility specialist said it was mostly likey caused by a cyst)...so now I am super paranoid.

With all of that said...my OPK was a bit darker this AM but if it isn't even darker by 2:00 I will call my doctor and see what she wants me to do. I have been super stressed about my imperfect cycles that I always thought were perfect smile.gif , DP's accellerated paramedic course (they are doing it in half the amount of time as it should take...seems stupid to me and has been stressing her out...which stresses me out), and I find out if I passed my National Board Certification on Friday that I have been working on for the past 3 years. Maybe this is causing O to be delayed...maybe. wink1.gif

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lise -- you can move me to the tww section.  :)


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hug2.gifDesert, I hope the kids adjust well and that you do too. When is your DP planning on testing?
 

invitn: I like your plan for focusing on having a good pregnancy when (not if) it happens. smile.gif

 

Welcome back from your 'vacation', outdoorsy. When are you planning on testing?

 

lisedea, Did your opk get darker? I wouldn't be surprised if all your stress is causing a delay as well....


 

Afm: I'm 3DPO. I called and booked my hsg for the 23rd. I'm actually quite scared. During my first m/c I had a rather traumatic exam in the ER - mostly emotional but physically too. Since then, I can't stand any exam other than the one pap my GP did. I didn't get checked my entire pregnancy with DD until I was 8 1/2 cm dilated. Anyway, I'm afraid I'm going to have a panic attack and be stressed during the exam which I would imagine will make it worse. I'll definitely be using rescue remedy and perhaps some other homeopathics to calm myself.

 

I think I'll O about 4-8 days after the test - any idea if that is too close? The RE said to go ahead and try again and I've read (and my acupuncturist reminded me last week) that fertility can go up right after the test...I just wonder about it being so soon! KD is back in town but I haven't confirmed an exact date with him yet. I'm using the CBFM again this cycle so my timing should be really good.


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Congrats, nosreves!  How are things?!?  We've missed you. 

 

Lise, I'm so sorry your picture-perfect cycles are uncooperative.  Pinpointing ovulation has become such a stress at our house, it's awful.  Did your OPKs darken again?  Thinking of you.  Also, for what it's worth, we had a stressful month and it pushed back DW's ovulation from CD17-18 to CD20-21 this month.  We're trying to be hopeful that it might work but it's painful to get our hopes up too high.  I don't think I ever requested to be moved after last month, so I believe we're in the correct location already!  Haha.  

 

Outdoorsy, glad to have you back!  I forget if you've told us before or not; is your family pretty supportive of you and DP?  Do they know you guys are trying?

 

invitn, I agree with Carmen!  Your plan is a very good one.  

 

Carmen, I'm sorry you're stressed about the HSG.  hug.gif  It sounds like you've got a good plan, maybe some meditation on the subject?  It's a good thing you've got a KD, if we were in your shoes I might be hesitant to inseminate and potentially waste the sperm/money.  Good luck!

 

Afu, we are still recovering from the kids coming home.  Little girl had nasty bright green diarrhea Sunday night and Monday morning, which we discovered today could possibly be caused by the very large quantity of toothpaste she consumed on Sunday.  Awesome.  Possibly it could have been related to icing on cake, also.  Who knows.  I'm basically begging and pleading with any deity that will listen to please, please let next weekend go better and help their mother get it together.  Please, please, take care of these kids.  

 

With regards to testing... we are tentatively planning on testing on Nov. 20th.  Wanting to hope and be positive, but I'm scared.  Watching Curiosity episode Life Before Birth isn't helpful, and yet we did so anyway.  Perhaps we are just not very bright!  Or masochists.  Or both.  

 

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You can move me to TWW (almost, we're inseminating starting tonight).

 

Carmen: I'm sorry you're nervous about the HSG. I totally get it! You could take the Valium that they prescribe although you'll need someone to drive you home. Or if you're not comfortable with meds, homeopathic anti-anxiety stuff might work for you. You are fine to have an HSG, ovulated 4-8 days later and inseminate. I did and although I didn't get pregnant, it wasn't like I couldn't do it. An HSG hopefully clears out your tubes a little do. Some people swear they get pregnant after it as a result. Best of luck!

 

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Short luteal phase, septum resection in Sept 2011
Jan 2011 a BFP! Try #11 angel.gif 8w2d (blighted ovum)
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Nov 2011 BFP! Try #14 angel.gif 8w0d (twins, no heartbeat)

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Desert: um, I hate to ask this for fear of being too negative but are they social workers sure the kids will be ok?? That scares me greensad.gif

Krista: good luck with the insemination!!


Afm: desert, I chant In the mornings and evenings (my DP and I are Buddhist) so that is similar to meditation and it does help for sure. I'm not really into medication unless I have no choice ( and DD is still nursing) so I'll stick with homeopathics and maybe some extra strength Tylenol. I didn't get a prescription for Valium....just antibiotics that I have to take for 3 days before. I HATE antibiotics.

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Carmen and Desert - thanks for the welcome back. Our families are very supportive of me and wifey, and some of them know we're trying to get pregnant. We know how lucky we are to have a supportive family. My reference to it being less carefree was about my grandmother's failing health.

 

In my innocence I had to Google "hsg" to understand the above posts. Carmen, it does indeed sound anxiety-producing, but the medical staff should hopefully be very gentle with you physically and emotionally. And as K mentioned, there could be some side benefits. Quoting from WebMD: "Some studies show that this test may help a woman's chance of becoming pregnant because the dye may remove mucus plugs, straighten the fallopian tubes, and break through thin scar tissue."


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desert -- aww, thanks :) .  i haven't felt much like posting because the clomid seems to make me really depressed and because i've been feeling low about the continued problems with my uterine lining and cm.  i have been reading, though, and thinking about you and DP and those two little sweeties.  i second carmen's question.  and i, too, am sending fervent wishes to whichever deity will listen...  i really hope things get better for them.  i've got my fingers crossed that you get a BFP on nov 20th!

 

krista -- how are you feeling?  i'm amazed by how quickly you've healed from the surgery.  i hope that that was the final puzzle piece for your ttc journey and that this is your month. are you still insem'ing with two donors?

 

lise -- thanks for moving me!  any joy with the opks?

 

invitn -- isn't the predicting ovulation thing a biznatch? i think for those of us with no sperm on tap, it's super stressful.  i never thought i'd be jealous of all of my straight friends and their ability to just "inseminate" whenever they want.  and it's completely understandable that this whole crazy process would affect your moods.  DP and i are both trying, and i can't tell you how many tears and fits of grump have hit our home.  be easy on yourself.  i love your change in prayers, too.  it's a very positive way to think.  are your temps still increasing?

 

afm... i'm at 5dpo but very aware that this cycle is most likely a bust.  i had a follicle that was a decent size but a super thin lining (merci clomid).  we knew reliable donor couldn't come over after thursday afternoon and we didn't want to rely on flaky donor, so we went ahead an triggered on day 11. my brilliant DP somehow remembered that i'd been prescribed estradiol (estrace) to take before a cervical coloscopy, and after reading that it can help some women thicken their linings, i took several high doses of that before we triggered.  given the state of my lining and the lack of ewcm, i'm not very hopeful for this month.  however, looking on the bright side of things, at least i know how i can get some estradiol to try with the next round of clomid.  (my gyn has refused to prescribe it for me, but i'm going to tell my gp i have an upcoming coloscopy and need a script for it.  i'm pretty sure he'll give it to me.)  does anyone have any experience with estrace?  i'm so confused about what to do next month.  do i go through another round of evil clomid and add the estrace in the hope that it will thicken my lining?  do i do a natural cycle?  i have real problems with my lining even off clomid.  from the beginning of my cycle until ovulation, i did femoral massage to increase blood flow to my uterus, and boy did that work.  i started doing it two days after my very short period had finished, and it restarted for a day!  i've had actual gushes of blood after doing the massage.  now i'm wondering if estrogen (rather than bloodflow) is the problem, and that makes me want to try out the estradiol.  i hate not being able to consult an RE....i really feel like i'm groping in the dark trying to figure this out on my own.  DP has said we can go to the netherlands or belgium starting early next year if this doesn't work soon.  both countries are a train ride away, so i wouldn't have to miss work, and both countries are relatively affordable.  i really hope it doesn't come to that, but at least if it does, i'll finally be in the care of real fertility experts who are invested in getting me pregnant.

 

other than that, i'm teaching far too many hours and desperately trying (and failing) to remember all 366 of my students' names.  it doesn't help that there are about 10 each of antoines, hugos and mathildes.  luckily, there are some lovely souls in the mix.   amsterdam was beautiful, as always, and i had a very nice time with my friend and her gf, but i also had some very very bad "cloments" that left me in tears as i wandered the canals.   i really hope there's a day in my (near) future where this whole ttc experience is just a fading memory and the fruit of all these struggles is snuggled comfortably in my arms.   a girl can dream, at least...

 


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Just a quick write-in. I am off island right now because I began to panic that something was wrong and I wanted an u/s done...off course, nothing is wrong. She said that everything looks "beautiful" but I am not ready...just totally delayed. Still no surge but I *think* am awfully close according to my test this morning. Instead of flying back and forth and wasting money, we are staying with DP's grandma (about an hour from the clinic) and I made sub plans all the way through Friday just in case. I am so hoping that I surge this afternoon and can insem tomorrow so I am can be back before Friday...but if not, I guess that is the way it goes.

Krista--Moved! Happy to hear you are at the TWW again!

Outdoorsy--I noticed you weren't on the list so I put you on it. If you don't want to be, let me know and I will take you back off! smile.gif

Hope everyone is well!!

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I read the board from time to time to keep up with you all and want you to know I am keeping my fingers crossed for all of you! fingersx.gifdust.gif

Cananny- I wanted to say to you that when I was on hormones I could feel my ovulation very intensely because of the enlarged eggs. It was a sharp shooting pain for me. I wish you luck!

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max!!!! i'm so glad to hear from you.  i was just wondering where you two were in the adoption process.  so are the photos of you and your DP to be shown to potential birth mothers?  it sounds like things are really rolling along!  do you have any idea how long the process might take?  are you trying to adopt a korean child?   sorry for the third degree...  it's just great to get an update :)  here's hoping that your LO will be with you very soon!


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Hi all

 

well I am 8dpo now and not a lot to report.. tired and peeing a lot... but who knows.. i will test nxt tuesday... 

 

Max yes it was painful and the re said it was me ovulating.. holy big one too :)

 

No Res.. i was on clomid .. luckily was not to moody... aand the etrace for 7 days ... i took it until i was 5dpo .. to thicken lining.. my re said it did help and my lining was looking better! i had no side effects from the etrace except the little yucky discharge ( sorry for tmi) 

 

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nosreves: What causes thin lining besides Clomid? Sorry, I don't have any answers for you....just questions. I hope this cycle surprises you.
 

lisedea: Beautiful is good :) Any sign of the surge?!


max: Nice to hear from you. Are you doing a private adoption or ministry? (Not sure if it is different in the US than here in Canada)
 

Cananny: NEXT TUESDAY? I won't be able to wait until then, sorry! orngtongue.gif


 

Afm: CD5 so nothing new. I went to my chiropractor today because I hurt my shoulder/neck somehow while I was sleeping and am in terrible pain. Hopefully it feels better by tomorrow. I'm feeling a bit better about the hsg next week. I'll get through it. I'm ready to be pregnant again now.


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Hi Max!  Good to hear from you, I hope you'll continue to keep us posted as things progress.  

 

Happy surprise off-island vacation, Lise!  I really really hope your surge comes soon and your cycle behaves itself so you can be back Friday.  Good luck!

 

Nosreves, ugh, I'm sorry you aren't feeling good about this cycle.  There are some people who swear by taking Bromelain supplements to thicken your lining as well, CD 5-15 is when I've seen it suggested.  My wife takes it 1-5 DPO to aid implantation, but I know of others (2ez specifically) who I know was happy with how it helped her lining.  Maybe look into it?  

 

Carmen, sorry about your neck!  That sucks.  You didn't get any immediate relief from the chiro?  I hate when that happens.  At least you get to insem this cycle!   

 

Cananny, I'm wishing you lots of luck!  I hope this very first cycle works, wouldn't that just be fantastic?  I agree with Carmen though, waiting until Tuesday?!  Eek! 

 

Afu, the days just keep flying past.  Sunday is testing day... and maybe it's dumb, but we always test the day before AF is due.  Seems a little silly to not just wait but I think we keep hoping maybe it'll be positive.  We'll see.  I'm to the point where the TWW has become my friend, it's this comfort zone of feeling like it really could work this time.  The end of the TWW, however, it my mortal enemy.  It always lets me down.  I hate that we're closing in on the end, because if it doesn't happen this cycle we're done for awhile.  All those cycles of begging the clock to spin faster to get us to testing... now I wish we had more cycles.  But, that's how it goes, right?  This too shall pass.  Sigh.  

 

As far as the questions about the kids being safe... we ask that question every. single. day.  The CPS case manager is notoriously lazy and on top of it, she's been transferred to another department and we are her last remaining case, so she's just trying to get it off her desk.  That's how it feels.  It doesn't really seem like anything has been done to ensure the kids are going to be safe.  The birthmom has taken her required classes and been present at the required meetings, therefore she must be fit to parent again.  This is going to sound backwards, but I actually feel like parents who have substance abuse problems might be easier to determine if they're ready to parent.  These kids were neglected by their mom and physically abused by one of the (several) fathers involved in this case.  How do you prove that someone is no longer going to neglect their kids?  Also, tell me this: if she couldn't manage 3 kids, and those 3 kids were removed by CPS, why is everyone thinking she's going to be able to handle the children now that she's got a 4 week old newborn in addition to the 3 older kids?  

 

Needless to say, we're concerned and frustrated because we have no say in it; our hands are tied.  The helplessness that we feel is the worst part.  


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cananny --  bless you for piping up about your experience with estrace!  what days did you do the clomid and on which day did you start the estrace? i've heard a lot of people doing it days 8-12, but it seems that your RE had you stay on it into the TWW.  i assume from the "yucky discharge" comment that you were taking it vaginally....how many mgs per day?   did you notice any EWCM?  also, i am so excited that *you* are the one trying to get pregnant now.  it always seemed like it should be you, anyway.  i really hope this is your month!   the fatigue and frequent peeing certainly sound promising.  fingers crossed for you, and thanks again for the info!

 

carmen -- i hope your neck and shoulder are feeling better today.  from what i've read, there can be several different causes of a thin linining:  lack of blood flow, lack of estrogen (estradiol) and i think the other cause could be structural problems with the uterus.  i've doing acupuncture, yoga, femoral massage and baby aspirin to help with blood flow, and since that hasn't worked, i'm going to go the estrogen route and see if that makes a difference.  good luck with hsg.  it does sound a bit scary, but i'm sure you'll be okay, and like everyone else has said, you should have a better chance of getting pregnant right afterwards.  here's hoping that's the case with you!

 

desert -- i will *definitely* try to find some bromelain for next cycle.  thanks for the suggestion :) .  as for the kids....it really seems like the system is failing them.  if she can't handle three kids without screwing them up totally, it doesn't seem likely that she'd fare any better with four.  it all just seems so incredibly unfair.  i'm so sorry that you and your DP have to go through this, and i'm even sorrier that those two little ones have to go through it.  sending you warmth and strength to get through this sad, frustrating time.

 

afm.... i had to leave work early yesterday because of kidney stone pain.  here in France, you have to have a form filled out by a doctor to get sick leave, so i went to see my gp yesterday.  i talked him into giving me the estradiol (estrace) i wanted, so there's a silver lining to the being in pain thing.  i'm not planning on filling the prescriptions for anitbiotics, naproxen or the opium-based painkiller he gave me, but last night i did break down and take some other painkillers, because it just hurt too much.  i know there's almost not chance that i'm pregnant this month, but i still feel guilty that i took the meds.  oh well...  the doc wrote me off work today too, so i'm at home with my lovely little feline children.  hope all of you are having a great thursday!


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Desert - I don't know how you juggle it all. So sorry to hear all that about the kids. Wifey likes to say she hopes or prays for "the best possible outcome" in a difficult situation instead of trying to ask for a specific thing. That is what I wish for you. Best of luck as you near the end of the 2ww!!!! I hope it will be a BFP for you!

 

As for me - I am at the end of the 2ww. Today is day 14 since the first of two vials we did this month. I have decided I am NOT testing, at least for now, because I don't want to see a no. The 2ww is the only time I feel optimistic, and I'm not ready to let that go! Plus I'm steeling myself for a BFN because this was an odd cycle in just about every way possible.


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Carmen and Desert.....the reason for Tuesday is that's day 14.....re said to wait till then to b sure the trigger shot is out of my system......sorry for the suspense ...
Nores.......I took clomid days 7-12.....and estrace days 12-18.....yes it was vaginally ...little green pills....very interesting!
Thank u for the kind words...I too have always felt it should b me ....fate has its ideas how things are supposed to work! Life sure is a journey ....
Desert....I feel for the kids....I do hope the mother has it together ....

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Hey everybody! I apologize for being MIA. Both last week and this week have been stressful and crazy and I am so happy that it is Friday. Here's a quick rundown and update - last week I had a huge group project due in one of my classes - it was very, very stress inducing. Causing my cycle to go all wacky...I was 'supposed' to surge on Friday which was CD 12 - I typically O on CD 13. Well this time I didn't get a smiley until 10pm Sunday night - CD 14! I was testing every 4 hours. So we did the insem at about 6:30-7pm Monday night - about 20.5/21 hours past smiley. I am pretty sure I o'd overnight. There was a very significant temp rise Wednesday morning. Looking at my chart I think we timed it really well! Oh and the insem itself was amazing - we made a mix of songs that had "baby" in the title and listened to that while getting everything ready - my DW was singing to the vial as it thawed in her hand - adorable - then we played the theme from Rocky and jumped around to get pumped up. As the swimmers were making there way inside we put on "The Final Countdown". As I laid with hips up we snuggled and did some visualization. It was lovely and relaxed. And quite fun! So can you please move me to braving the tww? thanks!

 

Then this week the dad of two of the kids I nanny for got unexpectedly laid off - which means I got unexpectedly laid off. I have watched them two days a week for two and a half years. I LOVE these kids. My heart broke. I know it's not like I'll never see them again, but it is going to be a rough transition. I'm really sad. Upside is that I already have three new prospects. And my current family isn't just leaving me high and dry - I'm going to be with them three more weeks to make the transition easiest for all involved. 

 

I have been lurking a bit and cheering you all on - desert  - big hugs to you. I don't know how you and DP do it. I am also hoping for the best possible outcome for those sweet kids. And a bfp for you guys!!!

 

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OK, I have done really well these past two weeks, but now I am officially going crazy!!!!! It is day 15 of the 2ww and I am refusing to test because my fertility signs sucked so badly this month! I don't know if I ovulated on time, four days late, or not at all. Today = boobs tender. Is it PMS or pregnancy???? Who knows. But I am not testing!!!!! redface.gif

 

MrsPP - I am sorry to hear about the layoff, but glad you had a great insem experience. Good luck!!!nod.gif


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Just popping in real quick wishing everyone GOOD LUCK thumb.gif in the crazy ride of ttc!! Thanks everyone for the kind words and blessing DP an I as we get closer to inseminating in a little over 2 weeks.

 

Sending Baby Dust to all!!

 

**May I just add..that it sounds like I'll be enjoying the TWW due to the overwhelming feeling of hopefulness!


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Hi Everybody I hope all is well with all of you, I also hope we all will be seeing some BFPs pretty soonwinky.gif

 

Sometime I think our donor is ...(thinking of the right word).. A KNUCKLEHEAD! he does things that makes me so nervouscrap.gif sometimes.. for about two weeks we been talking about which postal service we decided to use so I sent him the money for the shipping through pay-pal and all he had to do was purchase the label and drop off the kit at the shipping center well today he contacted us and said the whole time he didn't realize which postal service we agreed on and it was too late to use that postal service he ended up using UPS and now we owe him 50 bucks because of a huge mistake he made. (sorry for the rant)

 

help.gifQuestion- I have been getting positive opks all day since about 1-2am would it be too late to inseminate tomorrow morning or am I right on track?? 

 

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Sky--Definitely not too late.

M (30), D (30)  TTC #1 since October 2010. 13 unsuccessful cycles--no meds (2 m/c). First medicated IUI July 2012: BFN. Second medicated IUI: BFP! Triplets! bigeyes.gif Actual Due Date: May 17...GOAL: April 5th!

 

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Sky: OPKs detects your LH surge and indicates that you will ovulate in 12-48 hours (with the average being 36 hours according to certain manufacturers). Remember, the egg lives just 12-24 hours after release and you need to give a little time to the sperm to swim up and meet it so the day following your surge would be great timing.

 

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Short luteal phase, septum resection in Sept 2011
Jan 2011 a BFP! Try #11 angel.gif 8w2d (blighted ovum)
April 2011 BFP! Try #12 angel.gif 9w2d (no heartbeat)

Nov 2011 BFP! Try #14 angel.gif 8w0d (twins, no heartbeat)

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