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nosreves: you sound like you could use a hug....so hug2.gif
 

Welcome, Allison. Wow, TTC must be in the water at all the lesbian haunts in Vancouver orngtongue.gif Are you using a KD or frozen? FWIW, I couldn't get a positive opk when I was TTC my DD for several months...but I knew I was O'ing because I got pregnant! Eventually I started testing twice a day and then was able to pick it up no problem when I figured out the best time of day for me to test.

 

 

Afm: I've guessed I'm not pregnant. That isn't based on anything concrete or scientific....just a guess. I still hope I am but I'm not feeling great about the timing we had. I tore the bathroom apart while DD was in the bath tonight looking for a "spare" pregnancy test lol But I didn't find one. I think I'll test Sunday morning while we're away (12 DPO). Question again....for those of you who take progesterone after O....when do you stop taking it? My RE didn't say and I forgot to ask. My LP is usually 12 or 13 days.

 


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Anna, Lise, and Carmen -Good luck! I hope you get BFPs for Christmas!

 

Allison -Welcome!

 

So, the latest news on us. We're still go to do the blood work and ultrasound first week in January; if everything is good, I'll take the meds and we'll do the IUI about two weeks later, sometime around DW's birthday. love.gif

 

We're still on the hunt for a donor. I love my MIL, even if she is a little weird, lol. DW has been keeping her abreast of this whole process, sharing donors with her, everything, and she's been completely cool with it. Not only that, she's offered to help us with the cost. She stepped her offer up yesterday when DW explained to her that our RE told us we should look at a different sperm bank and that we'd have to go with a donor that was on discount. She basically freaked out and said that "no way are we allowed to have a 'sale' baby" (I know, I know). So she's offered to cover the difference in vial cost for any donor we want. She was really upset, and she said that it was wrong that they should ever put the "angel sperm" on sale. (In case you're wondering, she is VERY Catholic.) DW said it was all she could do not to laugh as she accepted the offer.


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Hi Carmen: just popping in to say that I usually go about 14 days. I have an 11/12 day LP. They say by day 14 (because that's the "average" LP in a woman) or when you get a neg pregnancy test. It can hold your AF back so in my opinion, it's a good idea to stop it as soon as you can. I have had my AF break through many times before, but two months ago it f***ed with my head and didn't break through so I thought it was a BFP. I had to POAS to get it all squared away. I'm hoping otherwise for you. I truly am.

 

Hugs to everyone else out there.

 

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We're still on the hunt for a donor. I love my MIL, even if she is a little weird, lol. DW has been keeping her abreast of this whole process, sharing donors with her, everything, and she's been completely cool with it. Not only that, she's offered to help us with the cost. She stepped her offer up yesterday when DW explained to her that our RE told us we should look at a different sperm bank and that we'd have to go with a donor that was on discount. She basically freaked out and said that "no way are we allowed to have a 'sale' baby" (I know, I know). So she's offered to cover the difference in vial cost for any donor we want. She was really upset, and she said that it was wrong that they should ever put the "angel sperm" on sale. (In case you're wondering, she is VERY Catholic.) DW said it was all she could do not to laugh as she accepted the offer.


Just curious... but for what reason do sperm go on discount? I have never heard of that. Your MIL sounds very sweet though. :)


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The place I go through has sperm on discount for new donors (to get people interested) and for retiring donors (get rid of vials because they are done donating). Plus, I think they are just trying to be nice to those of us that have been trying for a long time, aren't wealthy, and don't have people willing to pitch in. smile.gif

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AllisonWelcome.gif SO happy to see you here!

 

AFU: Early Friday morning (2am) we drove a friend to the hospital that was 1.3 hrs away. She was in LABOR! She was staying with us this past week and we knew that she could go into labor at any minute so we had a plan on how to get her back home; pick up her husband; and go to the birthing center where she was to have her baby. ...DP and I just didn't think we were going to have to use the plan! lol

 

Anyway, we drove from Bowling Green OH to Ann Arbor MI in the 1st snow storm of the year..while having our friend having contractions in the car. I honestly thought we might have to stop and deliver the baby in the car! When we got to the Birthing Center she was 8cm dilated and ready to pop out her babe! She allowed me and DP to go into the room with her and we witnessed her having her 1st child. It was amazing.... It was so emotional b/c they've gone through so much to get pregnant! 3 cycles of IVF with an almost infertile husband and used up all their life savings...

 

Needless to say, DP and I had an amazing Friday. The next amazing news is that DP finally started her period and we are able to inseminate this month! As of now, DP will be on clomid from CD 3-CD7 and then we will go for an ultrasound on Dec. 20 to see how the follicles are doing. She will also be given Profasi to induce O--has anyone used Profasi before? Any tips on what to expect?? She's a little nervous about it...  We are just so excited right now!

 

 


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KsDoula:Not sure why sperm goes on sale--but we got ours on a deal! haha...It was the "Winter Special" and if we bought 3 vials, we would get a 4th one FREE! lol DP and I had a good laugh when we were ordering our swim team and using the coupon..lol


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lisedea- you should definitely come to Vancouver! It's lovely here. But come in the Summer. It rains a LOT here when it's, uhm... not Summer.  If you come I'll show you the sights!

 

I hope your insemination goes well next week and remember- don't leave the island! (D.L.T. I.)

 

 

Desert- that painting is lovely. Heart-felt presents are the best. What a lovely art work to have in the family.

So much better than just 'shopping'.

 

And yes, we've done 2 more insems this week! Yay!

One on Thursday evening and one today (Saturday morning).  Both were very chilled out experiences and things are starting to settle into a bit of a routine which is nice.

S got a smiley on her OPK on Friday, so she's finally ovulating today (Sat) and this morning's insem might work out. I guess we'll see.

 

I think we're finding picking up from his place a little easier than having him come over to our place to 'donate'. I think he's more relaxed at home and, uhm, 'produces' more. winky.gif

And yeah, we know we're super lucky to be doing this with him. We looked at anonymous donors for years, asked friends if they would donate... but nothing worked out or felt right.  I thought this wasn't going to happen for us...

The important thing is to make this happen in the best way that's available and that feels right for each of us, right? 

 

I know it's easy for me to say, as this is our first month, but try not to lose confidence.

I'm trying to look at this process as creating a possibility- putting the ingredients together and putting ourselves into the right place and state of mind for the universe to do it's thing- or not. I feel lucky to be able to jump into this and create this possibility for ourselves. Yes, of course I want a pregnancy, but just to be able to take part, to jump in and participate and make ourselves available for this possibility is a wonderful experience.

 

(Uhm, someone remind me of that in a few months time, will ya? wink1.gif )

 

I was reading about your difficulties with the timing of DW's ovulation.  How frustrating. It sounds like you're getting a handle on it, though. 

I was wondering- how do you know she ovulated 12 hours post-OPK last month? That's a pretty exact number, and you sound sure, so how are you determining this?

 

Enjoy your last few days with Big A and Little A.  These days are precious.  I'm sure you guys will make the most of them.

 

Carmen - have a great time in Victoria!  And fingers crossed for you!

 

 

Gotta finish this now, but will be back later...

 

 

 

 


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Nosreves, your week sounds exhausting!  And next week too.  But yippee for two weeks off!  I was reading the part about your partner being excited about Belgium and how you're feeling numb, and it just made my heart ache.  Hugs to you, mama.  I haven't had nearly the number of challenges you two have experienced but I do feel as if I can relate to the numbness and the feeling of defeat.  If it weren't for you and the rest of the lovelies here, as well as our supportive families and friends, it would have been incredibly difficult for us to even continue trying to conceive.  I believe your partner is totally right; this new clinic with it's amazing doctor and staff completely is a hopeful new beginning.  You can do this.  You will do this.  You're going to bring home at least one baby, and this clinic in Belgium is going to help you achieve your dreams.  Be steadfast in your desires!  Keep your chin to the sunshine, my friend.  We are all here for you.  

 

P.S. Yes, the painting is in acrylics!  I love acrylic.  I'm too impatient to work in oil, and my confidence is broken over using watercolors though I'm considering trying it again.  We'll see.  I'm just a weekend hobby painter; I took a drawing and a painting class in high school but really it's just been a love of mine that I've kept practicing.  If you have questions, I'd be happy to do my best to answer them, but to be truthful I'm still shocked anytime a painting comes out looking nice.  

 

Welcome to Queer Parenting, Allison!!!  It sounds like you and your wife have been on quite the journey.  Your insem experience this month sounds so encouraging!  I really sincerely hope this TWW ends in a nice positive pregnancy test for you!  I'll add you to the front page roster, under "Braving the TWW" - if/when you need to be moved to a different category, just post it in bold and I'll move you!  

 

Lise, that stinks that your school is so afraid of lawsuits!  I hope it doesn't pass.  I just keep telling myself that all the gay rights fights and arguments and laws and lawsuits are temporary.  People fight the hardest against new things just before they change.  Someday, we'll get there.  I believe that.  I'm just going to wait it out.  winky.gif  Monday is coming up, soon you'll be able to pee on those sticks!  It's strange, the things that make us happy, isn't it?

 

Carmen, I'm sorry you aren't feeling pregnant.  That's never a good feeling.  Urgh.  Here's hoping for a surprise positive tomorrow!  Hugs to you.  hug.gif

 

rs - Your story about your MIL is so sweet and funny.  I always adore hearing stories about supportive families, because there are so many stories of unsupportive families out there.  Good luck!  I hope you can conceive a baby on your wife's birthday!  

 

TineyDreams, WOW!  What a story about your friend's labor and delivery!  That sounds incredible.  What a great way to start off a cycle!  This month's plan sounds so fantastic for you guys, I hope this is it for you! 

 

Anna - Glad you guys are figuring out exactly what works best for you, especially with regards to your donor and the way you orchestrate that happening.  And your calm inseminations sound ideal, congrats!  The funny thing about TTC is that every single one of us comes at it from a different place, a different perspective.  And add to that, some of us have been trying for a few months, some of us are at a year or more, and new couples are joining every day who are just starting out.  I appreciate your words of encouragement, because it reminds me of the way I *want* to feel while we're trying.  It's so easy to get discouraged and start to feel negatively about it, like this is never going to happen, and that isn't healthy or ideal for conceiving a child.  Hang onto your optimism, it's such a valuable commodity.  

About the ovulation, we're able to zero in somewhat closely on when DW ovulates, but our accuracy increases after she ovulates.  After the fact, we're pretty good at saying, "Yep, you ovulated at this time, which puts it at X hours post smiley."  For that we're just using her basal body temps and cervical mucus and position and openness.  During the actual ovulation window, we're pretty much stabbing in the dark, it feels.  Sometimes her chart shows a fallback rise, so she'll have two temp dips and spikes right after a positive OPK and it's like, WHICH ONE IS *THE* ONE?!  Don't know.  She always has a clear thermal shift on her chart, so we are confident she is ovulating, it's just that her ovulation is not consistent from month to month with regard to when the OPK becomes positive.  It's rather infuriating.  So I guess we're generalizing the ovulation timeframe by rounding up or down a little, but I think we're pretty close.  Last month, her temp dipped on the same day as her positive OPK but I was expecting her to have another dip and spike after the initial one, so we didn't inseminate until a day after she likely ovulated.  That wasn't very fun.  

 

All in all, I've come to accept that I don't know jack about what's happening in there and I just have to keep hoping that at some point, we'll get lucky.  


AFU, today we're 2 DPO and life is good.  DW has been at work since early this morning, and I've spent the day lounging around watching Friends, talking to my mom on the phone, and working on my mom's birthday present, which is a painting of me when I was a baby.  Part of the baby portrait series I mentioned a week or so ago.  Later this evening is "Craft Night" at the in-laws, where I will be working on ceramic Christmas ornaments.  

 

Happy weekend, all! 


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Just curious... but for what reason do sperm go on discount? I have never heard of that. Your MIL sounds very sweet though. :)



The different banks we've been looking at do it for different reasons, but almost all of them have a discounted donor program. Some are new donors, as someone else said, but others are for 'inventory rebalancing needs' or some such. For instance, Xytex has the 'Select' donors which are $380 instead of $555, and Fairfax has Family Solutions donors, which are also much cheaper than their other donors. They are the same quality, and the donors go in and out of rotation on the selection. Some banks also have discounted Open ID donors.


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ugh, insomnia is so dull.

On the plus side it gives me lots of time to catch up here!

 

nosreves- I love the fact that you guys are trying at the same time.  It really speaks volumes. 

I think it wouldn't be the 9 months of simultaneous pregnancy that would worry me the most (although it is a crazy-making prospect). I would be more concerned about what happens when/if one of us gets pregnant and the other doesn't.  If both of us were trying and going through that emotional roller coaster each month I think it would feel quite conflicting for the one that didn't get pregnant (first). I imagine I'd be both overjoyed but also devastated at the same time if I was in that position, you know?  It sounds like you guys have got it all sussed out though.  I wish you both all the luck on your trips to Belgium.

 

And yes, ich spreche Deutsch! Leider nicht mehr sehr gut denn ich bin als elf jaehrige mit meiner Familie nach Canada ausgewandert.

It also makes my brain itch to type in German. Like typing with your arms crossed over.

I was born in Germany and lived there until I was 11 when my family emigrated to Canada. I did all my highschool years here then went back over to Europe (England) for Uni, fell in love with S, got married and ended up staying there for 13 years.  We only moved back to Vancouver 2 years ago. So I'm a bit of a mish-mash! Born in Germany but with a Swiss nationality (from my mother) I consider myself Canadian but speak with a weird British accent. Go figure.

Oh, I also lived in France (paris) for a year as an Au Pair between high school and moving to London, and speak some (half-forgotten) french, too. French kids are the cutest!! You guys are going to have adorable kids. The two I looked after were just lovely.  Of course they're out of university by now and uploading photos on facebook of their drunken weekend parties... which makes me feel about 100 years old.

 

Allison Hi fellow Vancouverite! ~ waves

Now there's 3 of us, I think we have ourselves a party!   jammin.gif

 

It sounds like life has been stressful for you guys- I have my fingers crossed that indeed 'tonight is the night'! Sometimes intuition is an amazing thing.

Good luck with your inseminations this week!

As Carmen suggested, try the OPKs at a different time of day and see if your wife gets a more consistent result. Most people use them first thing in the morning, but you have to take into account that that's probably around 8 hours worth of collected hormones and whatnot, so might not be very accurate. My wife uses hers at lunchtime.  I think you need to wait at least 3 hours after urinating, so sometimes that's a pain for her as she drinks a lot of tea in the mornings... I'll get a text around 10 saying 'I need to peeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Damn this baby making mallarky!' 

I also read somewhere that hormones build in the early morning, but can't remember where.

Do you guys chart/ watch for other signs of ovulation? (cervical mucus, cervical position/ opening, etc)

I'm guessing you've read Stephanie Brill's book?

 

 

rs11 - your MIL sounds amazing! The 'sale baby' made me laugh.

I'm glad she's so supportive.  That's so wonderful to have.

 

tineydreams - wow, what a crazy and amazing day you guys had on Friday! It's so special to be able to witness those events in the lives of people close to us, isn't it?

In my grandparents generation births and deaths and illness and all that real-life stuff was shared with the people closest to you- family and friends. Now those important events are done in private, in hospitals and institutions and only shared with medical personell - strangers, really.

We rarely get to experience those important life stages with each other anymore.

 


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Quickie post from my DP's iPhone...I got another bfp this morning on a frer if you can believe it. I'm s
afraid to get too excited but we'll see. I will test again in the morning to see if it's still positive and I have an appointment with RE on Wednesday so we'll see what my hcg is. I'll continue with the prog. as long as the tests are still positive.

Wish me luck...I'll need it.

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Carmen!  That's amazing!  I know you're hesitant, and I know we'll all be waiting with you to breathe a sigh of relief.  But congratulations!!!  Here's just a few little guys who made an escape: 

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Carmen--dropping in to send you sticky vibes!

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Carmen - FX for a sticky bean for you!  Keep us posted on your beta results.


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Yea Carmen!!!! joy.gif

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Carmen, yay! FX for a sticky bean! fingersx.gif

to all: anyone using Internet Cheapie OPKs? I have 21 individually wrapped IC OPKs that expire 1/2012... I know that is verysoon, but I'd hate to waste them if someone could use them. PM me your addy and I will send them out this week. Since they expire soon, I could split them up if more than one person wants them... "first come, first serve" (cross posting on another forum)

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Carmen--so happy about the BFPs! Hoping for a sticky one and you to join us over on Q&P very soon! smile.gifjoy.gif

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YAY CARMEN!!!!!!!  

 

Hi everyone else...

 

To answer your question Desert... The weather is not much of a change.. it is a little cooler here than in Az at this time of the year.... I also really loooove your painting.. My DP paints too.. it is her release.. i wish she would do it more.. and I wish I had some kind of artistic ability.. I take the pictures.. she can paint them :)  FX for your DP this is her month!!!!! 

 

RS.. what a nice MIL.. and funny story!!

 

NORES.. I am so hopeful for you and DP .. the clinic will take you.. You are in my thoughts.. please keep us updated when you find out more~

 

 

AFM.. starting to prometrium to bring on AF.. nope still has not come... I am supposed to POAS again... but at this point.. really? LOL... But if all goes well.. we will insem the 1st week of January.......

 

I have been getting my newborn baby fix.. been spending 3-4 hours a week with a set of b/g twins who are just 2 months old.. I have been volunteering my time once a week ( more if I can swing it) since they were 3 weeks old.. I really enjoy them .. been practicing my baby wearing and getting in lots of snuggles and a plus.. they have been modeling for me as I learn to take younger baby photos :) Ill leave you with a pic of my new little friends Simon and Hazel :)

 

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ooh carmen, how exciting!!  fx for a very sticky bean!!!! :)

 

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Very disappointing event.... I surged early, on Sat, and I had ordered the sperm Fri to be sent to the midwife. It's not getting there until today. So we are SOL this month. No hopeful 2ww over Christmas for us.


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carmen - fx! congratulations!!! I am keeping you in my hthoughts and hoping for a great beta!


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carmen- fingers crossed for you! joy.gif

 

outdoorsy- oh, how annoying.

I know i'm new to this and this probably sounds really stupid but i never really thought about having to include shipping time in the calculations.  That certainly adds a layer of complication.  Our KD lives 15 mins down the road...

I hope you can at least enjoy a beverage or two over the Christmas period. 

 

Cananny - those twins are so cute! 

I love the way Hazel is assessing you with those tiny 2 month old eyes.  Our friends 2nd daughter looks at you like that, too. She's 1 now but she could look right through you when she couldn't even sit up yet.


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Carmen: yippee kay yay! I knew it. You go, girl. I know it's nerve wracking but enjoy the first few days of elation. It's the best.

 

Desert: hope you don't mind my interjecting some thoughts but it sounds to me like your DW might be annovulatory. Has it been 100% confirmed she does not have PCOS?

 

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Jan 2011 a BFP! Try #11 angel.gif 8w2d (blighted ovum)
April 2011 BFP! Try #12 angel.gif 9w2d (no heartbeat)

Nov 2011 BFP! Try #14 angel.gif 8w0d (twins, no heartbeat)

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Unfortunately the frer is really light today....yesterday's was pretty good but it's definitely lighter today....I'll try and post a photo of them. I'll get a digital today just to put me out of my misery. I'm getting really sad about all of this. I'm not sure I can handle the roller coaster anymore.

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Carmen - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you! It may be too early to get a really strong result. And as far as I know, the digital ones are NOT more accurate. This could still be your month!hug2.gif


babyf.gif... due in late June.

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Carmen--Hang in there! When are you getting a beta?

Outdoorsy--That is so terrible! greensad.gif Ugghh...did your temp go up? Maybe you O'd late? For some people, it takes a couple of days to O after surge AND remember that the egg can live around 12 hours!

AFM...Almost forgot to take my OPK this morning! (although...today is still early to start them..especially since sperm won't even be here until Wednesday) Definitely negative (thank goodness! smile.gif). I test twice a day and am hoping that this afternoon's is a bit darker...normally they gradually get darker before the surge and I will hopefully surge on Wednesday or Thursday. But with way last month went, who knows--although, I think last month was delayed because of how much stress I was under in finding out the results of my NBPTS...

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carmen -- thinking about you and hoping for a darker line (and better yet, rapidly doubling beta numbers).  sending the hug your way this time hug2.gif

 

desert -- i'd hug you too right now if there weren't a few thousand miles of ocean in the way.  thank you so much for your words of encouragement.  this place truly is a welcoming, refreshing oasis, and i feel very lucky to have stumbled into it.  there aren't too many people who even know we are trying, so i don't get to vent much.  i am feeling a lot more hopeful today (see below)!    

 

i paint with acrylics, too, and mostly because i love how quickly they dry.  i studied at an art/film school in chicago for a little bit, and even though i was technically a film student, at least half my courses were in the art school.  the prof in my first and only drawing class was horrible, but i had an amazing color teacher who inspired my own obsession with color.  i mix all my own colors and love to just play with my palette knives.  most of the stuff is very abstract expressionistic and probably appealing to no one but me, but i do enjoy the process.  my main form of expression these days are in the form of the drawings i'm doing for my children's book.  your painting both wowed me and made me want to get out all my tubes and start mixing.  maybe when my break starts...     what's going on with the little ones?  are they still with you and you DP?  how are you doing emotionally?  i guess it's too early to be asking about DP's symptoms... maybe in a week?  

 

allison -- a very warm WELCOME to our lovely little forum.  your insemination experience sound really positive.  i hope this is your month!  and thanks for mentioning yoga.  it's a wonderful thing, and i should be doing more of it.  it sounds like the perfect way to shake that stress you mentioned. i hope your stay here is short!

 

anna -- i know exactly what you mean about feeling ambivalent about one person getting pregnant before the other.  DP and i have talked about it, and i think i would probably feel both overjoyed and devastated, but i think any feelings of "why isn't it me?" would dissipate pretty quickly.  a baby is a baby, and while i hope with all my heart that i can carry a child, i would be over the moon if i found out DP was pregnant.  

 

frueher konnte ich sehr gut deutsch (bzw pfaelzisch) aber zur zeit kann ich kaum noch irgendwelche saetze zusammenbasteln.  ich muss ueben... it sounds like you and i have had similar paths.  with have three countries in common...i don't encounter that too often.  i'm american, but i've lived in seven other countries, and i don't forsee myself returning to meine heimat.  i just feel to comfortable with life over on this side of the pond.  france is great in many ways (and, yes, the kids are frakking adorable...so polite), but i'm really feeling the weight of their discriminatory laws, so i don't love it the way i loved spain....or even england.  maybe all that will change after the next election...one can only hope. 

 

cananny -- thank you and merci for what you said.  i can feel the positive energy all the way over here!  those babies are really adorable.  the meds the doc is putting me on will definitely increase my chances of conceiving twins, so now i'm seeing them everywhere.  i hope AF shows up (how often do people say that on here?) and that you get to insem at the beginning of the new year.   it's still so exciting for me that you're in this with us now.  maybe we'll both end up with 2012 babies. 

 

outdoorsy -- did you still insem anyway??  you should...even if you think you might have missed the O.  i can't tell you how many stories i've seen where people were sure they'd missed the window and ended up pregnant that month.  in any case, i'm sorry that you didn't get the sperm right away.  i can completely relate to missing an opportunity due to a lack of swimmers.  i hope all is not lost for this month.  

 

lise -- congratulations on holding off until today!  and thankya kindly for the recipe.  it sounds delicious, and almond paste is readily available here, so that part is easy.  what does you family call it?  it sounds a little bit like small versions of a galette des rois, a cake they eat here during epiphany.   if i can overcome my slight fear of pastry crust baking, i'll give it a go over the holidays.  DP and her mom both make amazing tartes and crusts.  maybe if i can master your recipe, i'll be able to show off a bit for them.  good luck with the opks this month!

 

afm... after getting no reply from the clinic last friday, i called them today.  apparently, we've both been accepted as patients!  we don't have the details, because the doc hasn't mailed us yet, but it's very good news indeed.  as i was just telling my sister, it's becoming more real now somehow.  for the first time we have help on the journey....youpi! (as they say here.)  being in the midst of exams is turning out not to be so bad.  for the first time ever, my co-workers have started talking to me and joking with me.  when i started there nearly two years ago, i didn't really speak french, and i have felt a bit isolated as a result.  our admin assistant told me today that she used clomid and injectables before she got pregnant with her one year old daughter.  it was so nice to finally confide in someone...especially someone who has been through the ttc process.  i'm still pretty sure that i sound like a 3 year old half the time when i'm trying to explain things in french, but at least i'm finally communicating.  thanks to all of you who have listened to me and offered your support and encouragement.  

 

and to all of you in the tww...a big dollop of baby dust 

 


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Car,en: I know your past experience but you gotta screw the digital. Go get a blood test. With this pregnancy, I had one day of light, then a strong and then it went back to a light and I was driving my self nuts. But the same day I got the lightest line, I went in for blood draw and it was 154. And I was taking a 10mlu test. So what the f*** does that mean? It means it's all dependent on the amount of dye on the test and other factors. So just get in and get that blood test and find out what your base is. That's most important. Thinking lots of you!


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Thanks for the warm welcome, guys!!!

 

As for our OPKs, when DW first started doing them, she was testing kinda willy-nilly, but then we paid closer attention and realized we were supposed to be stricter about it.  She does everything perfectly, and they're totally inconsistent.  She'll get a line DAYS before she actually ovulates, and then it will fluctuate between a dark line and a light line after that.  We've given up on her OPKs.  She got her hormones checked and everything's perfect, so we're just going to ignore the OPKs.  We use BBT and CM, and I've also become incredibly skilled at wielding a speculum!  ;)  We are using a KD.  Has been fun for the most part, once I got through our first round where I giggled and gagged every time I had to handle the sperm (now I just don't care, smell and all!).  

 

To answer another question, we used Taking Charge of Your Fertility (who hasn't?), The Ultimate Lesbian Guide to Conception, Parenting, etc etc etc, and the other one by Rachel Pepper someone mentioned they didn't think Pepper was all supportive of home insems, and she doesn't even mention KDs as a possibility AT ALL.  Disappointing.  I thought Brill was kinda dry, but I was pretty burnt out of pregnancy/TTC books by the time I picked it up (not sure how that is possible, but I've definitely hit a wall in being able to read cover-to-cover any TTC book).

 

For the first time ever, my brain's just defaulted to thinking of her and a tiny human.  I'm not sure if it's just wistful thinking, but it's certainly odd.  I gut feeling knew in previous cycles that it hadn't worked LONG before anything happened, and I don't get that gut feeling now (my gut feeling is that it's *finally* worked and there's a tiny embryo digging it's way into her endometrium).  I've always been planning the next insem cycle before we're even BFN/BFP, and this time I've not even LOOKED at January yet.  All signs?  Who knows.  I thought wife looked pregnant (she looks different?)... maybe I'm going crazy (I do spend my working hours surrounded by babies.  Small, often very sick, premature babies, but they're still babies!).  

 

Carmen, I hope your results are in your favour!!  Good luck!!

 

Good luck to all of you out there, armed with your OPKs and pregnancy tests!! 


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