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#121 of 266 Old 04-11-2012, 04:41 AM
 
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Darth: Congrats on the new home! I hope you have many happy years there.

 

Mrs P: Welcome! I hope you won't be here very long!

 

Mtnlisa: Awesome numbers. Good luck!

 

AFM: I went back to the RE on Monday for bloodwork. My beta had only gone down to 29, but they're no longer worried about an ectopic because my progesterone was back to normal and my estrogen level had halved. My body just stubbornly refuses to let go of a pregnancy, I guess. I go back in on Friday for bloodwork and an u/s.

 

Here's are dilemma, and I need advice: this is our last chance for a while. Our savings are almost gone and we can't afford to keep doing this. Do we have a good chance this month? Or should we wait a cycle and then try again? I had several follicles at my last u/s but they've been "resting" for about two weeks now and we don't know that they're still good. Complicating this decision is the fact I'm now on antibiotics for the next several days for a tooth infection. The RE says this antibiotic shouldn't interfere, but I'm not so sure. What does everyone think?


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rs, if it's you last cycle trying, I might wait one full cycle - just to be sure. "they" say you have increased fertility for 3 months post m/c, I think. glad to hear your body's taking care of things on its own, albeit slowly. good luck with your decision.

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Cananny  *Please move me to taking a break?  When I called in to schedule the HSG test, all the appointments were booked up, so I have to wait until next cycle, so we will not be trying for 2 cycles now...  Frustrating, yes, but it will give our finances a break!


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Nosreves: still so excited for you two.

 

Essenbee: Sorry to hear about your BFN and needing to get the HSG done. On the bright side, my doc says that getting it down can help flush stuff out making conception chances better next cycle around. 

 

MrsPP: I second Lise. It will be nice to see you back in the mix again.

 

Gelly: I'm sorry about your BFN. Please let us know how the 2nd Beta went.

 

Darth: Funny quick story: a couple days ago when you changed your screen name, I thought that I was seeing things. Granted I have been pretty loopy, and somewhat disoriented at times in the past week with my illness but to completely imagine that I was seeing a different name that I would have never made up on my own- it was weird moment for me. It took at least one or two times of me logging in and reading posts to realize that your screenname was actually changed and I wasn't just imagining it. Anyhoo, your description of your new pad sounds divine. I've never been to Vancouver let alone Canada. How is your impression of how Vancouver differs from other major Canadian Cities? Congrats for being in the tww- wouldn't a BFP be a great welcome-to-your-new-home gift!!!

 

Mtnlisa: good luck in the tww!!!!

 

Carmen: Sounds like everything is moving along nicely. To clarify, are you in the tww yet?

 

RS: So in response to your question I have a few questions: Do you have to wait for your Beta number to be at O to insem? I have no idea how that works. I think being on any type of medication can impact your body and how it normally function even if it wouldn't harm the fetus. Another question, is your plan to wait until after the u/s to see the size of the follis. Considering all the things that are going on, I know it's extremely hard to take a break for a month, (I know I hate it- doing it right now), but perhaps you may be feeling better and you may have more info about Beta numbers by next month- which may or not be important- again I have no idea about Beta numbers.Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

 

Cananny: Can you pls move me to "taking a break" -I just noticed I was on the waiting to O list. Glad to hear things are moving along for you.

 

AFM: So I have no idea what cycle day I am-for the past few days I haven't been monitoring any fertile signs bsides the occasional cm watch- mostly bc its hard to miss. Since thursday when I got home from the hospital - I've been pretty much planted on my couch or my bed- my vertigo is coming and going at this point- which is a good sign. If I move around too much, I definitely start to get a headache, somewhat dizzy, and really tired...like a constant "hangover" feeling. Everything I have read online about Labrinthitis says the illness should take it course in a couple of weeks...which somewhat scares me. There is no way I want to miss more work than I have to. For now, I am taking this week off of work...and man is sitting around hard to manage bc I thrive on being productive. To make matters worse, DW has started to get sick too and she is home as well from work. When she is ill, she is particularly crabby and doesn't want to socialize at all, even with me. I get it bc I am not really in the mood to chat either. Once I start my period when I suspect will occur next weekend-we can get on the ttc train again. 

 

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NOSREVES!!! I just saw your news! STICK LITTLE BEAN STICK!!! :) :) :)

 

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So so so excited for you and DP!


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rs: I would also choose to wait a cycle. If your chances are limited it's best to have everything that you can control be ideal.

esenbee: ugh that's annoying! But it sounds like there is a positive side too so I hope the wait is restful and free from ttc stress!

invitn: glad to hear you are relaxing...but you and your DP sick at the same time doesn't sound fun!

Afm: going to do our first insem tomorrow afternoon. Still just high on the monitor and no positive opk but I had copious amounts of ewcm yesterday and I think it's close. No ewcm yet today though...which is a bit odd for me. Anyway, we'll insem tomorrow and again Friday or Saturday depending on what the monitor and opk say tomorrow.

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Nos- Again, Congratulations to you and your DP!! I am still so thrilled for you.

 

Carmen- Good luck this cycle. I am hoping that you will have another little one born around the holidays!

 

Rs- I think Carmen makes a good point about waiting. What ever you chose I hope it is exactly right for you and that you have no regrets about it.

 

Invitn- I am sorry you are still not feeling great. I hope you recover quickly.

 

mtn- Good luck in your TWW

 

Darth- Those counts sound awesome!

 

Cananny- I am glad your lining and everything looked good. I dont think any one answered your question about multiple veggies... I just put one on of each kind that I want and then highlight them, press ctrl + c to copy and then ctrl + v to paste. Then continue pressing ctrl + v to paste over and over. One thing is to make sure that the little cursor line that shows where you are typing is next to the other veggies so that they go on the same line and not the next line... does that make sense??? 

 

Granite- Welcome! I am afraid your first post may have gotten lost in the excitement of nos' BFP. Tell us more about your family.

 

Soto- I am so sorry to hear about your BFN and the tears that came with it. That first one was really hard on me too. My fx are crossed for you and your DW for this next cycle so that you wont have to go through that again. How is giving up caffeine going for you? Have you found something that works for you?

 

Gelly- I am so so sorry for your BFN.  hug2.gif

 

AFM- I am 12 DPI. We tested at 10 DPI and it was BFN. I don't *feel* pregnant but I hope that I am. We will test again tonight or in the morning because we have an RE appt. tomorrow afternoon. This will be the first appt. for us with them and it feels a little nerve wracking. I'm not sure it is the right step for us at this point but I feel like if we keep doing what we've been doing we are just gonna keep getting what we've been getting ya know? Any words of advice for questions that I should ask the RE or things that I should look out for?

 

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Nos~ OMG!!!!! Congratulations!  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif Stick little bean stick...

 

 

AFM~ Thanks everyone...it was a BFN. The nurse said that both betas were negative. I think that we will take a break. I want to loose some weight..I'm joining a gym and maybe Weight Watchers as well. I really think if I drop some lbs then maybe I can capture that elusive BFP. Please move me to taking a break.

 

I hope that eveyone else is doing well.

 

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ewcm showed up again tonight, I had a great acupuncture appointment today and we're confirmed for insem tomorrow! thumb.gif

 

darth: I don't think I ever answered you re: the gay family day....do you mean the picnic in the park that is part of pride? I get together periodically with other groups of gay families but it's nothing formal or a set schedule or anything. I actually find it difficult to connect with queer families because we're so busy and so is everyone else!

 

gelly: Sorry hug2.gif I hope a break is helpful for you. Take care!

 

I also didn't have a chance to comment on the telling your parents vs. not telling them discussion. My dad died when I was a kid and my mom died when I was 32. DP's dad died when she was 25 and her mom passed away in 2007. So, we have no parents to tell unfortunately. My mom would have been SO fricken happy about DD. My brother has 2 girls and a boy and they were the lights of her life for sure. I was very, very close to my mom and not being able to share this journey with her has been very difficult for me - it's almost surreal to me that DD will never know her. DP's mom would have been thrilled too but maybe a bit more cautious...she definitely welcomed me and treated me like one of the family but outwardly she wasn't ready to admit to anyone else that we were a "couple." Everyone else in both our extended families have been awesome and loving and we feel so fortunate for that.


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Hey everyone...

 

Gelly.. I am so sorry to hear this was a BFN :( big hugs

 

Esenbee.. sorry you have to take a small break.. hope to see you back on board very soon!!!

 

Carmen..yay for moving towards the TWW.. 

 

Hopeful.. Im hoping to see a BFP in the next day or so from you.. :) 

 

Sorry if Ive missed anyone..

 

Is everyone moved now?

 


AFM.. sorry ive been lagging on my upkeep.. its been a long busy week.. My older nanny kids are on spring break so we have been running all over the place... add to being at the lab at 7 am and work 10-12 hrs.. Im a bit tired!

Im on day 3 of injectables.. and going ok.. getting used to giving myself shots and no real side effects or moodiness  * dp is happy* go in Fri for U/s and Monday for U/S and possible insem Tuesday... 

 

Hope everyone is well...

 

PS>. Nores I saw the FANTASTIC beta # on the queer parenting board... WOHOO.... can i move you to graduates.. can I .. please:)


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So yesterday, I started a light period, my midwife called in a prescription for Clomid (my first), and I finally did a serious check for risks. Turns out that a large study from 2009 shows a 67 percent increase in the most common type of ovarian cancer, called serous ovarian cancer. I read the actual study, which is free online at http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestream/366862/field_highwire_article_pdf/0.pdf. In a New York Times story, the author said it could be chance, but someone from the National Cancer Institute said she was surprised the author downplayed the risk. The NYT headline proclaims "not linked" but that refers to the other meds and other types of ovarian cancer in the study, not to Clomid and this specific type of cancer. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/health/research/06cancer.html

 

If I'm going to take it, I have to start soon. Did anyone else look into the risks, and what are your thoughts?


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So yesterday, I started a light period, my midwife called in a prescription for Clomid (my first), and I finally did a serious check for risks. Turns out that a large study from 2009 shows a 67 percent increase in the most common type of ovarian cancer, called serous ovarian cancer. I read the actual study, which is free online at http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestream/366862/field_highwire_article_pdf/0.pdf. In a New York Times story, the author said it could be chance, but someone from the National Cancer Institute said she was surprised the author downplayed the risk. The NYT headline proclaims "not linked" but that refers to the other meds and other types of ovarian cancer in the study, not to Clomid and this specific type of cancer. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/health/research/06cancer.html

 

If I'm going to take it, I have to start soon. Did anyone else look into the risks, and what are your thoughts?


I have done a bit of reading. My acupuncturist is the one that first pointed out to me that it can be linked to cancer. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to take it. I will if it's necessary but I would limit it to a low dose and not for more than 2-3 tries. Other studies say the risk is low but there seems to be more research coming out that makes the risk more real. Sorry, I can't point to any of the research - it's more what I've been told. My feeling is that I take risks with so many things already that this one hasn't been necessary for me to take at this point. However, I am considering it next cycle if this doesn't work out....It's a hard decision.

 


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Outdoorsy, I haven't read the study, though I will now. In the meantime, what my doctor told me is that there is a higher incidence of ovarian cancer among women who take clomid, but some of that is likely due to the fact that women who are taking it are often dealing with infertility. Not giving birth to children also raises your risk of ovarian cancer apparently, and a significant percentage of women who take clomid for infertility don't ever get pregnant, and thus are at a higher risk anyway. Plus, those being treated for infertility (versus those doing it to better time insems) often use higher doses, again increasing the risk. Does that make sense? I haven't read the article yet, so perhaps it contradicts all of this. My take away from the doctor was that there is a small risk, but not a huge one. I will be taking clomid this next cycle for the first time, so I'm a bit nervous, but also ready to be pregnant.

 

Cananny, Thinking about you! Man, I hope this is it!

 

Carmen, Go EWCM!!! (Pre-ttc, would you ever have imagined getting excited about cervical mucous?!?)

 

Gelly, I'm really sorry about your BFN. I hope that your break is restorative and healthy.

 

Essenbee, Good luck with the end of your semester! I hope you have lots to keep you busy, and that the next month flies by.

 

Hopeful, Fingers crossed for you!

 

Invitin, I hope you're feeling better. Exciting to be heading back to the TTC train!

 

Nos, How are you feeling?

 

Soto, How's the caffeine detox going? I thought of you last weekend when, in the middle of WAY TOO MUCH family drama with my mother, I snuck away with my sister and drank a little bit of her coffee. Oops.:)

 

I'm sorry, I know I'm missing lots of people.

 

AFM, I have never been so impatient to get my period! I predict AF will arrive anytime between Friday and Monday, and then we can get started! I have clomid sitting on my dresser, a syringe full of Ovidrel in my fridge, and three vials of our new donor are flying across the country as we speak (type?). We have switched donors a bunch over the past few months (first there was the problem with DD's donor, then the problem with the donor we chose last cycle), so it feels like kind of a commitment to have three vials of the same one! But I'm tired of paying for shipping, so hopefully this one will work out. We already owned three vials, so that's how we chose that number.

 

In other news, we are at the absolutely crazy of the semester here, which means that I should be working, not MDC-ing, but I wanted to pop in and say hi. Happy Thursday!


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Cananny-I'm glad you're doing ok with the injections and testing.  Can't wait to hear how many beautiful follicles you have.  Hang in there!

 

invitn- I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.  I hope you recover soon and are feeling good.

 

Good luck to everyone in the TWW!

 

Carmen - It sounds like things are moving along smoothly for you.  Here's to an awesome insem!

 

Angela - I hope Aunt Flo shows up soon so you can gear up for the new cycle.

 

AFM - It's always crazy how in this process you wait and wait and nothing happens and then something happens and you switch in to crazy, get-it-done-now mode.  I took an OPK last night and I got a smiley face.  It was only day 11, so it seemed early and I wasn't having the fertile signs of CM or cervical position, etc.  My cervix was high but not all the way open.  I looked at the stick and there wasn't a line but there was kind of a smear.  I know you're not supposed to look at the stick with the digital test, but I usually see a line.  I took another OPK 4 hours later and it was negative.  I took one this morning and it was negative.  In the past when I've taken a second test after a positive, it stayed positive.  Later this morning I went in for my follicle scan.  I had 6 or 7 follicles on the right side and nothing much on the left side.  (I'm also pretty sure I saw my neighbors there.  It seems they are having another baby.)  3 of the follicles were around 20.  The nurse said I might have had a short surge that didn't make me ovulate because it didn't look like I ovulated and those follicles looked good.  She was excited that this was the best response I've had on the Clomid.  She asked if I did anything different this time, and I didn't really.  I started taking royal jelly, but that's it.  She told me how my wife can give me the HCG shot and scheduled an insem for Saturday morning.  My midwife who does the at home IUI's is out of town until Saturday evening so this all works out well so we can have her come over in the evening for IUI #2.  My wife and I were both nervous when I got that smiley face, but we feel a lot better knowing what we know now.  The nurse is also going to put in my progesterone prescription so I can start that on Sunday.  She is giving me a little extra because I'm going to Ohio the last week of April and I will come back on a Sunday around the time I could be testing.  Here we go! 

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You sound all set up, Angela! Hurry up AF!

 

pokey, wow, it's a good thing you had the scan. That would have been so disappointing! I would have been furious at the smiley face lol Good luck!

 

 

Afm: KD on his way over right now! Peak on the monitor this morning and a positive opk at lunchtime. We'll try again tomorrow and I think I'll likely O tomorrow so that should be perfect timing :)


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Pokey- One time I had an OPK that seemed like it was positive a lot earlier than it should have been and the time period of it being positive was really short like you are describing, which is also odd for me. From what I remember my other signs started matching up about 48 hours later. Good luck to you this weekend!

 

Angela- It looks like we will be cycle buddies this next go around. I am expecting AF between tomorrow and Sunday. 

 

Outdoorsy- What Angela explained about the risks associated with Clomid seem to make sense to me as does what Carmen and you have said. I briefly looked at the first study you posted and it is interesting to me how they say in several places that there is no associated link between fertility drugs and ovarian cancer but then in just one place it mentions the 67% increase. I hope you are able to find more research to find something you are comfortable with. If it was me I think I would take it short term but really evaluate the pros and cons if it wasn't working after a couple of cycles.

 

Cananny- I hope all this running around you've been doing this week brings you good results!

 

Gelly- I am so sorry it didn't work for you this time. grouphug.gif

 

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AFM- Could you move me to waiting to O? I haven't started just yet but am starting to spot a little and had another BFN this morning... We have our RE appt in about an hour and I am excited for it. I think it will be nice to get a plan in place that works for both DW and I.


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Nos: AWESOME!!! Congratulations, little Belgium baby.

 

Risks of cancer and fertility drugs? The jury is still out in my opinion. The potential might be there but the hard evidence still is not. But something like Clomid I think has far fewer risks than the injectibles and the use of injectibles over a long period of time. Three months of Clomid, the risk is probably minimal. Five cycles of heavy duty injectibles, you might want to think about it.

 

Look up the risk associated with being pregnant and cancer. In some women, the hormones related to pregnancy kick off cancer cells. So are you going to stop trying to have a baby?

 

I think the better question is how quickly are women getting pushed into (or pushing their doctors to prescribe them) stim meds because they aren't getting pregnant "fast enough." We are in a "I want it and I want it now" society and I think this causes us to be impatient. Of course, if you start the game later in life, that doesn't help.

 

And just to note, if you're over 35 Clomid nor Femara has shown to increase your success rate in getting pregnant. Go figure.

 

Sorry for the drive by. Have to run.

 

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Krista, Hi! I've never heard that clomid doesn't increase chances of pregnancy if you're over 35. Do you have a study or research you can share? That is a bit of a game-changer, potentially.
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OMG MISSY!!!!!!! YAY!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!! I AM SOOO SUPER EXCITED FOR YOU AND DP!!!!!! I HAVEN'T BEEN CHECKING IN WHILE DW AND I WERE MAKING A NEW PLAN AND WHEN I COME BACK LOOK WHAT I SEE?!? A BFP!!! EEEEKKK!!!!

 

Ok I'm done being a sappy dork lol

 

 

AFU-we have found a new donor! We are on CD4. DW has a really good feeling about the new guy better than she has ever had before....being a cop her gut feeling is pretty much gold to her so we shall see....

 

 

 

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Hi all! I'm absolutely bagged from painting, so no personals tonight, despite getting caught up on everyone's going-ons!! smile.gif good luck to everyone in your waiting or injecting or whatever you're doing!!

So our new place is so awesome, I'm so excited to be done with the painting and everything... We picked good paint that can be washed and scrubbed, with the knowledge that kids like their wall art no matter what you do. We've full on taken to calling the 2nd bedroom the baby's room, we even painted it in gender neutral soft grey of the rest of the house. I think it's hilarious because I doubt the baby will sleep there much anyways. No baby yet though, since we're only a few days I to our tww...

Vancouver is awesome, although comparing it to other Canadian cities is like asking to compare Seattle with the rest of the US.... Vancouver and Seattle share more in common than anywhere else. Except maybe Victoria. A bunch if coffee obsessed, yoga wearing hippies we are... Modern hippies. And in Vancouver, very very broke but well dressed hippies! Ha!

Peace out, I'm up again early for day 3 of painting!! And then we rip out the yucky carpet and install lovely laminate flooring so our future children can't throw up on it. smile.gif

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Please move me to the 2WW--Thanks!

I will be back to write more later!

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Lisedea fingers crossed for you!

Carmen, sorry I jumped the gun last time, but happy tww to you now, too

Afu 5 dpo and I am imagining? All sorts of symptoms, probably just the leftover crampiness from the iui. Can't hardly wait for ten more days to pass!
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Amt: That's awesome you found a new donor! And I think following your gut is a great idea :)
 

darth: Good to hear the new place is shaping up. DD has yet to sleep in "her room" but it's nice to plan.....it can always be a play room!


lise: Welcome to the 2WW! I think we're cycle buddies this time!

 

mtnlisa: Thanks! When will you test?
 

 

Afm: Insem went fine yesterday and we're on for another one just after lunch today. I think that should do it but I'll see what my temp does tomorrow morning.

 

Did someone ask to compare Vancouver to other cities in Canada? I haven't been to a lot but I've been to several of the big ones (Montreal, Toronto, Halifax, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Victoria)....I think the west coast is quite different in terms of culture and general vibe. It's much more "outdoorsy" focused and has a reputation of being a hippy, pot smoking haven. The hippies are more like yippies for the most part but there probably is a fair amount of pot smoking going on ;) Our weather is very moderate - not too hot, not too cold. We only get snow a few days a year but it rains a lot. We have a huge chinese/hong kong population (more than any other city outside of China I believe) along with lots of other different immigrant populations (indian, japanese, korean, eastern european) so that makes for a really rich cultural experience - especially food! People from Toronto or other easternward cities often say we are "boring" but the people I know who say that are looking for nightclubs and a big night scene. I have no idea what that scene looks like in Vancouver but we are definitely focused on skiing, mountain biking, hiking, beaching, etc in this city. Fleece and goretex are dressing up ;) The landscape itself is quite different too - we have the mountains, the Pacific ocean, many lakes, rivers...and it's quite stunning (google photos of Vancouver and you'll see how beautiful it is!). Can you tell I love it here?? The only complaint I have is that it's REALLY expensive to live here...Vancouver was just rated the most expensive city in North America. So that's not very fun.

 


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I agree with Carmen!!  It's hard to watch "house hunters" when they're in the US and buying some MASSIVE house 20 minutes outside downtown-city for the same price we paid for our condo 45 minutes outside the downtown core, and they're whining about the commute/location/etc.  I'm like "are you for real?  You have this gorgeous house for $250K and you're complaining about paint colour?".  And we got a GOOD DEAL on our condo.  The weather is really hard to deal with for the non-natives, my import friends (those who did not grow up in Vancouver) really struggle their first Vancouver winter (40 days of low laying grey cloud, raining solid, dark, very damp).  It's now April, so we're all starting to perk up again, but February/March is a brutal brutal time in this gorgeous city.

 

However, sunny days make up for it.  The bonus in Vancouver is that nobody caarreeesss what you do, everyone is very accepting of everyone else.  Pride is HUGE (last year I think they topped 500,000 people?), nobody bats an eye when they see my wife and I (although we do get mistaken as sisters on occasion... and twins once!  Ha!).  There is still some gay bashing, and there was a hate motivated murder a couple years ago, but generally it's not nearly as bad as some places in the US.  No crazy Westboro Baptist nut jobs boycotting Pride.  Despite the $$$, there's tons of young families around... In our new place, there's a stroller going by every 3rd person, it's CRAZY.  

 

Vancouver Pride!  Woo!


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Carmen and Darth- Your descriptions of Vancouver sound so so lovely to me and so much like my own area. I have lived in the Portland, OR area for about 4 years now and IMO, is what you've described. I grew up in Olympia, WA (halfway between Seattle and Portland) and love everything about the Pacific NW! I think the people here are lovely and the sunny days more than makes up for the rain we get 80% of the time. Everything is so green and beautiful and its only about an hour to the Pacific Ocean and about an hour to the mountain!!! I wish I could spend an extended amount of time in Vancouver because I am pretty sure I would feel so at home there. I often tell DW that we should just move to Canada! Now you've got me planning a vacation...

 

Krista- Its great to see your name on here! I've been wondering how things have been going for you. 

 

Lise- Good luck!

 

mtn- I am not sure on this but my thought would be that 5 DPO would be too early for actual pregnancy symptoms to occur. I think they start after implantation but again I am not sure. Either way my fx for you!

 

AFM- We went to the RE yesterday and I am so glad we did. The RE recommended that I do baseline u/s and lab work as well as an HSG this cycle. It turns out that I have an odd combination of medical concerns that could lead to fertility issues! I have low thyroid levels as well as low adrenal production, which he think means that there could be some auto immune condition going on since those two things are rarely seen together. He explained that there is probably something attacking my thyroid and my adrenals that is probably also attacking my ovaries. I am not sure what to think about all of this. My PCP knows that we are TTC and she has gone through this process her self. She is the one who found the thyroid and the adrenal problems so it irritates me that she hasn't even hinted at the fact that this could be an issue. She said I am young ( I am in my mid-twenties) so I shouldn't have any problems getting pregnant...

 

So today is day 1 of my cycle. AF graced me with her presence this morning. So tomorrow we go in for all the baseline stuff! Now I will get to find out about all of the joys of a Day 2/3 u/s!!! Have any of you ladies done an HSG this early on in the process? It seems like most people get them done after awhile of TTC so it seems odd to me that he recommended that we do that this time as well. Any thoughts?


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Lisedea: Good luck! I hope this cycle works for you!

 

Darth: Your new place sounds awesome.

 

Carmen: Good luck in the TWW! I loved your descriptions of Vancouver. I really want to visit the NW one day.

 

Hopeful: A lot of REs want to do an HSG early on to rule out blocked tubes before you spend a lot of money on treatments. Ours did, but we decided to hold off because my insurance won't cover it. If yours will, I don't see a reason not to do it.

 

AFM: My body may have a hard time letting go of a pregnancy, but in the meantime it's been working again all on its own and I had a beautiful drug-free 17 mm follicle on my u/s this morning! The RE thinks I'm probably going to ovulate on my own this cycle, even though my beta was only down to 20. I haven't ovulated on my own in well over a year! He thinks the metformin did it. We are taking this cycle off, and I go back in a week and a half to make sure I did ovulate. If not, we'll trigger and let my cycle go from there. Could I please be moved to waiting for AF? Thanks!


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rs11--yay for your body getting the idea--I was concerned about my AMH level (10+) and my RE said, well its because you have PCOS, but it doesn't matter because now you are ovulating on your own! It feels better to be able to, no? 

 

Hopeful--I did have an hsg before anything else with my first pregnancy--IMHO clearing out the tubes might have been helpful for me--I remember (very little because due the cycle day it was painful) that it took some time for the dye to get through so maybe it helped me.  I got pregnant, um 10 days later??  And you are totally right that I couldn't possibly be having actual pregnancy symptoms, but I'll just go ahead and pretend I am :)

 

Carmen--glad to hear your insem went well--I can't decide when to test.  A) I have one hpt left from my last pregnancy so I don't think I will go out and buy a new one unless I've made it to the 25th without bleeding.  That said, I am teaching a class on Sat the 21st with a friend with whom I will definitely share the news so I might just have to test that morning.  By 10 dpo last time, I couldn't hold a flat object against my abdomen and was sleeping 12 hours a night and eating like a horse, but didn't have time to test until 14 and it was quickly positive then.....ah the obsessing....

 

 

 

 

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In regards to Clomid. First off, I hope most people know that Clomid should really only be used if you have difficulty ovulating and/or have PCOS. It is not intended for use for someone who regularly ovulates. It is not just a drug to stimulate so that you produce more follies. I'm sure there are REs out there that prescribe it anyway, but it's a good thing to keep in mind because it is an ovulation stimulator, not an follie stimulator.

 

Clomid and age...

 

"Few realize that the rate of conception with clomiphene therapy is about 1/3 lower than the natural fertility rate for any given age and about 25% lower than when gonadotropin stimulation is used. This problem increases significantly with advancing age .Consider the fact that in women under 35 years, the pregnancy rate with clomiphene treatment is about 10% per cycle , about 5% between 35 and 40 years and 2% after age 40. Here are a few reasons why:

 

Clomiphene through its "antiestrogen effect" tricks the hypothalamus into thinking that estrogen levels are low. In response, the pituitary gland releases an exaggerated amount of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), which stimulates development of the follicles, ultimately resulting in ovulation. The growing follicles secrete estrogen into the bloodstream, thus closing the feedback circle that the hypothalamus initiated in response to the anti-estrogen properties of Clomiphene. Unfortunately however, at the same time the pituitary also releases large amounts of LH which causes the ovary to produce large amounts of the male hormone testosterone. In high local concentrations, testosterone can compromise egg quality and thus ultimately the chance of having a baby. The older the woman, the greater this adverse effect of clomiphene will be."

 

http://www.ivfauthority.com/2009/05/clomiphene-for-women-over-35-bad-idea.html

 

I'll try to find a study to further support my original statement because I know how much we all love stats!!


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