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Thanks for the support everyone! So we did our first insemination last night, which was fun. I was laughing so much during the whole thing that I was worried I'd expel some of the sperm!

DW had some trouble getting the catheter more than a cm into my cervix- said she felt enough resistance that the catheter started to bend. When she slowly deposited the sperm, she said it just dribbled out of my cervix. When she took out the speculum, a whole bunch of sperm was scooped out with it greensad.gif

She's worried she botched it.

Meh, I'm still optimistic- it only takes one right? Plus, this was just our first "for fun" try before we see the RE for our medicated try (RE's in Canada seem to like to medicate cycles that aren't exactly the typical 28 day cycle- makes it easier for iui timing).

Anyways... TWW!

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mamaet: Good luck, fingers crossed for you. I can imagine our first insem will be similar. It only takes one though! 

 

Good luck to everyone else, this board has slowed down quite a bit eh? Lots of graduates. 

 

AFM: My body is starting to confuse and frustrate me. My last cycle was 37 days, AF lasted like 2 days and now on day 17 AF just started again, WTH body. I am trying to chalk it up to moving and house buying stress but it's freaking me out a little. I've heard of stress delaying ovulation but not making your cycles drastically shorter. blah. I am calling my insurance today to see what they will cover and then hopefully getting some hormone testing done. 


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mamaetmamanI agree. One is all you need. Crossing my fingers for you.

redrickbandsorry to hear your cycle is being so wonky. Hopefully the testing will give you some insight.

AFM - If I'm not pregnant I would like a prompt explanation as to why I have been having so much indigestion and nausea these last couple days. I'm trying to resist the temptation to POAS in the morning since I'm only 7dpo. What say you? Should I do it or wait some more?
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heartnbones 7DPO is around where I was when the nausea and indigestion started. I didn't test until the evening of 10DPO and the line was SO faint that I'm guessing if I had tested any sooner it would have been negative. In fact I didn't completely believe it was positive until I saw it on a digital the afternoon of 11DPO. All of this to say, I would wait as long as you can. There is nothing I enjoyed less while TTC then an early negative. (Fingers crossed!!!!!)

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mamaetmaman Sounds like a great first try to me. Hugs to your DW, I know mine always felt a lot of pressure to get it "right". I'm sure she did great. I think first tries are usually funny learning experiences. You absolutely could still get lucky - it only takes one! And I do think your timing was awesome.

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Heart-n-bones It's a personal preference I guess. The number of positives that early should be 10-20% only. I agree with Sphinxy, it is so disappointing. But if you don't feel you would be disappointed, why not go for it on 9DPO? By then the chances are ok. Or if you don't mind possibly wasting a little bit of money on tests, start right away. There is no guidebook for peeing-on-a-stick etiquette.
Of course the greater disappointment is getting a BFP and then getting AF. I'd personally rather not know about a chemical pregnancy before my AF date. So I'll test next thursday, if necessary (15 DPO). But what's right or me isn't nevessarily for everybody else.

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So I took a test this morning.  Which was negative of course.  And then I totally laughed at myself for being so impatient!  Not disappointed at all.  I knew it was too early, but jut figured what the hell.  I've actually enjoyed laughing at myself all day.  

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Heart: I tend to believe in testing early and often! I think it is easier sometimes to see the bfn and know for sure that it is too early rather than wondering all day what you would get if you tested. I do personally think 8dpo is too early to see results--I generally believe that people who get bfps before about 9 or 10dpo have their dates wrong. Anyway, I hope you get more exciting results when you test next! fingersx.gif

Friederike: It's interesting to consider the idea that it is easier not to know about a chemical pregnancy. I found chemicals before our son somewhat reassuring, in that it meant that we had gotten the timing right and that I could get pregnant. But it was certainly disappointing when they don't stick. TTC is so hard.

Redrock: I'm sorry that your cycle is being wacky. I hope you're able to get some useful testing!

Mama: I hope you get some beginner's luck!

Lizbian: Have you gotten an AF visit yet? I hope she comes soon!

Lea: How are you doing?

Any news, Jenny? SanDiego? Darcy? Fmorris? Twomommy? Scorpioma?

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Heart- I've got my fingers crossed for you!

Sphinxy- thanks! I will pass on the hug. She did great! I took a pic of her with her ead between my legs, wearing a headlamp and looking like a miner. Lol

I know I'm only 2DPO, but have really bad nipple tenderness (don't have this normally), and abdominal cramping.

This is gonna be a long two weeks!
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mamaetmaman sounds like fun - hope it all goes OK for you & good luck for the TWW - it is the worst part of the whole process I think.

 

redrockband I hear you - stress with house stuff & work upped my cycle last month from 31 to 45 days which is very frustrating. I hope it gets back on track soon.

 

Friederike how are you feeling about everything? any more funny stories?

 

Heart-n-bones glad you aren't reading too much into the BFN but FX for you.

 

Escher Hi!

 

AF has finally arrived!!!! 44 days last cycle. My stress has all gone now so I'm hoping it'll get back to normal. I managed to get the injections I need from the pharmacy & only had to pay £6.40 which was fantastic. I need to pay £400 or so for the 2 ultrasounds & blood tests I needed but that's much better than it could have been. Depending on what happens with my cycle (if it goes back to normal), we're  planning Denmark for the end of June providing I'm not teaching.  I just found out a 4th girl at work is pregnant (out of 7 who work there) so it's certainly baby season! One of the girl tried for 3 years before resorting to IVF so FX I have success first time, although of course chances are still only 25% or so.

 

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Hello Everyone,

Here's some info about me:)

 

What is your name?  Jen
What are the names/pronouns of your partner and children (if you have any?)  DW=Wife; DS= Darling Son (9yrs old)
What method are you using to get pregnant this next cycle?  Known Donor @ home insem 
What do you and/or your partner do for work?  I'm a social worker, she's an RN
What country/ state/province do you live?  NC
What is the most exciting part about this TTC time for you?  Finally finding a local KD that will come to our home, that we are comfortable and confident with!!
What is the most difficult part?  All the rest:))  Patience and optimism!

 

I am enjoying hearing about your personal stories, and will try to catch on with names and who's where in the process...

 

I tried to hold out but tested three times...11DPO. 13DPO, 15DPO, all NEG.  AF came today.  My cycles are short, so we will try again in a couple of weeks!  I plan to use the ovulation microscope, but also may track BBT to see exactly when O happens.  I can usually feel it, but just wanting to be sure it's all lining up!  I also made an acupuncture appointment for next week.  I am thinking about talking to our chiropractor, as well.  Do any of you know of chiropractors helping with fertility?

 

DW seems to be taking the news of AF arriving okay.  It's reassuring to us to have a KD that is local and we know has recently had success with helping another couple.  So positive vibes continue!!  I am sending some to each of you as well.  This process can wear on the best of us<3

 

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Mamaetmaman - you had me almost spill my coffee at the miner with a headlamp picture. I hope the TWW passes swiftly for you.

Lizbian - thank god AF finally arrived. I am baffled by your prices. Here the standard IVF meds run at about 1000€, but my ultrasounds only cost 30€ each and blood tests are 20€. Those discrepancies make me wonder what the real prices are.
I didn't have any funny stories this time unfortunately. It was a mad dash to aquire the sperm (order on same day as shipping), but the bank helped us and it worked fine. It was the first time we used dry-ice, which was much less of a hassle. I could go to work with the sperm box in an inconspicuous Ikea bag and go in for the insem during lunch break. And the insem took about 2 minutes.

Jen - I am sorry for AF. But yay for trying again soon.

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Hey Jen & great that you have a local KD which I'm sure makes things much cheaper & easier.

 

Friederike - I'm so glad AF finally showed her big ugly face. With the prices it's crazy, especially as they had to order them in. I think in Guernsey they don't ever have anything like this happen so they haven't thought too much about costs. Re the ultrasound most of the cost is actually for the specialist appointment rather than for the ulstrasound itself. Things are expensive over here except when they haven't thought about it!

 

My sister arrived from Australia on Wednesday for a visit which is nice. She thinks I shouldn't tell my mum about our IVF trip to Denmark as it will be too much for her to handle. Oddly a month before I told her about our plans she wrote an article for her local church on the importance of a father in a family unit. That shows me exactly what I'm facing to get acceptance but I'm sure it will come when she has a grandchild to hold.

 

How is everyone in the TWW? Any upcoming insems?


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Lizbian I can empathize with your situation. My father still sends me weekly videos on YouTube that are religious and homophobic. My wife and I are saddened, but have accepted that we will not have the luxury of familial support that our siblings automatically receive.

I too, hope that once they hold that grandchild in their arms, it will change their perspective on things.

Perhaps you should locate and print off the recent study that reports that children of lesbian moms are better adjusted and achieve more success in schools than other kids.

Big hugs.
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mamaetmaman yeah I know but I have to give her time to adjust I think - she will do eventually, I have every faith.

 

Friederike just got the bill for the blood test - HIV & hepatitis test £309!!!! ouch. Lucky it's the only one I need!!!


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Lizbian, Mamaetmaman We were really worried about how my partner's parents would react, particularly her mom, when I was pregnant with DD.  Her parents are very Catholic. They refused to come to our wedding, never even acknowledged it.   When we told her I was pregnant her response was, "Oh I wish you hadn't done that."  We we extra scared to tell her that DP's brother was the father.  But once DD was born, they came around pretty quickly.  They have been really good with her and have totally accepted her as a part of the family.  This go round, I think we'll probably get the same negative initial response, but I'm not worried about it anymore.

 

AFM Been resisting the urge to test.  Yesterday I was so exhausted and had a splitting headache.  Just wanting this TWW to be over.  

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heart- I have been trying to convince DW that we should ask her brother to be the donor, but the whole idea weirds her out.

I like the idea of our child being genetically from both of us, but for some reason she can't dissociate her brother from the equation.

Even if it costs us about $900 each 0.5 mL vial of sperm each try.

How does your DP rationalize it? Has she always been cool with it?
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Jen- I know of many people who've benefitted from seeing a chiropractor. For some, it had helped with relieving pressure on spinal nerves supplying the reproductive organs, which has resulted in a more regular cycle. For others, it has helped relieve tension and stress in their bodies which has been a obstacle in getting pregnant.

I know some people are afraid of the neck manipulations, but some big studies have actually shown that they are safe, even for pregnant women.

I see a chiropractor regularly (every other week), and feel so amazing since I started making it a regular part of my routine.

I live in Canada though, so don't know of any chiropractic docs in your area.

Good luck!
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Hi everyone,
My period finally arrived, which means we are in the wait for our first insemination. It's a bit scary, I keep thinking do I even want to be pregnant? What on earth am I doing? My wife is getting excited, she has scheduled our sperm pick up and drop off at our doctor's office already. I am sharing news mostly with one friend and she keeps asking me when the insemination is; she is very excited too, but just doesn't quite get it.
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heart-n-bones yeah it's exactly the same for us I think. Super duper catholic family & the same response but I'm sure she will come around when she has a little one to spoil.

 

mama yeah we had the same discussion about using one of our brothers but it completely weirds us both out so we're not going down that route!

 

rebecca great AF arrived & good luck for your first insem - I hope it goes smoothly!

 

The UK this week announced a breakthrough in improving the odds for IVF but it's not yet undergone clinical studies. I'm going to ask the doctor about the possibility of the blastocycst procedure which apparently increases odds but isn't necessarily recommended for women over 37. It's all positive either way!

 

QOTD have any of you ladies used acupuncture to help TTC? If so how often/what time in the cycle do you do it?


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QOTD have any of you ladies used acupuncture to help TTC? If so how often/what time in the cycle do you do it?

 

Thread-crashing! Hi all, I miss you and am still cheering you on... And welcome to all the newbies! I'm a huge proponent of acupuncture for TTC: Here's what I wrote about it in my how-I-got-pregnant summary, and I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Good luck and FX for you all!


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thanks Granite! We miss you, hope everything is going well for you and will deffo check out your info. I also just found out about assisted hatching & am very excited about the possibility of being able to do it - every little thing helps. smile.gif


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Mamaetmaman It was actually DP's idea to ask her brother.  She really wanted the baby to be as close to her genetically as possible.  She has 4 brothers and the one we asked was the closest to her in age and appearance.  DD actually looks more like DP than me, which is always funny to see people's reactions.  I'm really grateful that it was able to work out that way for us.  

 

Rebecca Excited for you for your first cycle trying.  I hope all goes well!

 

AFM - I'm 10 DPO, which is when I got my BFP with DD.  Took a test this morning - BFN.  I have a short cycle, so if AF is coming it will be today or tomorrow.  I know there's still a sliver of hope, but I'm not holding my breath.  Yesterday I felt pretty sure that I am not pregnant this cycle.  I guess we'll know in the next day or so.

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Wow, that's so cool that your kiddo looks so much like your DP heartnbones. It's really special that you're both genetically connected to her. Did her brother agree right away or did he have to think about it?
I can't imagine at all asking my DPs brother, but maybe that's because we're not close, I don't find him attractive at all and my DP is generally pretty opposed to using anyone we know closely, so a sperm bank was the right choice for us. But it is great for the kids to have such a close connection.

BBy- yay for getting started. You must be very excited. What are you using to pinpoint ovulation? Will your DP be able to to be present during the insem at the doctors?

Liz- assisted hatching is an amazing procedure. As a SciFi nerd I find it so very fascinating that they are using laser to make the egg implant more easily. Have you started your meds already?

afm - DPO12. I have a feeling I might be pregnant again. There were several signs that I also had last month, but of course it could all be psychological. AF should arrive on wednesday, so I'll test on thursday if not. 3 more days. Those last days are the hardest.

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heart-n-bones It's fantastic your little one has both of your genes. I'd love to have that but we just don't have the kind of families we can ask & I don't want anything to do with DW's brother's genes! (she definitely got the best ones). FX you still may have luck but if not, next month.

 

Friederike it's amazing all this testing & new processes they use to increase your chances. I need to ask the clinic whether they'll do it but think they will given my age etc. An extra £250 is worth it.  Have you heard about that endometrial scraping? not going down that route but interesting concept. Starting meds first day of next cycle which will hopefully be in 3 weeks. They didn't give me the med to inhibit ovulation so followed that up today & waiting for a response. I really hope you are, FX this is your month, do you have anything exciting to distract you?


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Friederike Hoping you're feeling is right.  Good luck on these last couple days of waiting.

 

Lizbian  The new procedures and stuff sound exciting.  I hope they'll be the key for you.

 

 

No AF yesterday.  We'll see if she makes her appearance today.  I'm not going to test today, but maybe tomorrow is AF doesn't come.

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Assisted Hatching? What is this? 

 

heart-n-bones: ditto what others have said, we very briefly considered asking one of DW's brothers, but one is very religious and not supportive of us, and the other is great, but very young. It would cause way too much drama. Plus I don't have a brother and DW wants to carry as well so that just wouldn't work out. But how cool that you were able to do it. 

 

lizbian: endometrial scraping? That sounds painful. 

 

friederike: fingers crossed! I don't know how you all can wait to test. I am sure I won't be able to resist. 

 

AFM: DW and I spent a couple of hours last night looking at banks and donors. It was pretty funny. The best part was when after seeing a picture of a donor as a child that resembled many kids in her family, she declared we pick him and order it. This was like the second bank and 5th donor we looked at. She went on to say that she knew we both had the potential to become quite neurotic about this process and didn't want us to over analyze picking a donor (especially since if our genes made a baby together it would have really short legs, a long back, bowed legs, bad vision, migraines, a bit of anxiety, etc.)

 

QOTD: How did you pick the bank you went with (if you used a bank) This is so hard. 


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Assisted hatching is used in IVF where they use laser to cut into the hard outer shell of the fertilized egg before putting the blast in. For implantation an egg needs to leave that hard shell behind and embedd into the uterine wall.

QOTD - we simply used the only bank that ships to private clients in Europe. (I am working with a doctor but doing assisted reproduction for lesbians is a grey area, so to protect her we still ship sperm to my home and keep her out of all sperm dealings. I also don't think she documents the procedure and I pay cash.)
Picking the donor was easy too, we first filtered based on hair and eye color, which only left a couple guys (brown hair is a bit unusual in Scandinavia) and then decided based on profession and body stature. We each had one favorite (sports student and photographer) which we both used in the past.

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