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#1 of 13 Old 01-03-2005, 11:23 PM - Thread Starter
 
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A lot of request have been made for such a thing a few threads were looking for this information back in December. Pass it on where ever you like. I love www.mercola.com and get the weekly e-mail newletter.

Here is the article:
http://www.mercola.com/2004/dec/29/v...n_schedule.htm
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Any foreign protein injected into the blood, even just one time, can start allergies.

Why risk damaging the health of your child in order to satisfy some crazy schedule or brainwashed pediatrician?

For what reason?

The only safe vaccine is the one not given!
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Again my reasoning for posting this link is to give those looking for an alternative in the middle ground area some additional information. I have seen some selective vaccine schedules posted here that I thought were horribly over doing it and again injecting an immature immune system too early with too much.

We all need to make our own choices. And those mothers looking for something in between completely vaccinating and completely non-vaccinating deserve to have a voice on this board as well. This is vaccine education and every mother needs education particularly those sitting on middle ground.

On a personal note, I came here as a selective delaying vaxer with so little to go on that I ended up completely vaxing my ds1 and caught myself before ds2 was subjected to the same, today I am 99.9% non-vaxer. I'll leave myself that .1% in case I come across something to change my mind. I know my younger children are healthier for not vaxing.

Gitti - did you even read the article? From your comments I would say no. If you aren't going to read the article posted in its entirety -- don't go posting negatively charged comments. Read the article and then feel free to site information criticing that given. I want this to be educational.
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Gitti - did you even read the article? From your comments I would say no. If you aren't going to read the article posted in its entirety -- don't go posting negatively charged comments. Read the article and then feel free to site information criticing that given. I want this to be educational.

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Before I read the article I thought it was going to be a suggested schedule for parents to follow, but it's really more like what he would do ideally if what he wanted was available.

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A user-friendly vaccination schedule prohibits any vaccines that contain thimerosal, which is 50 percent mercury...One should also avoid vaccines that contain live viruses... Finally, a user-friendly vaccination schedule requires that vaccinations, after the age of two, be given no more than once every six months, one at a time
Sounds good so far (even though I'm not sure where the 6 month interval comes from) but then he goes on to say:

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Which vaccines should be put on this schedule (among those that do not contain live viruses or thimerosal) is not entirely clear. The top four would be:
Pertussis (acelluar -- aP -- not whole cell) vaccine.
Diphtheria (D) vaccine.
Tetanus (T) vaccine (the first three on this list are to be given separately, not together, as is usually the case).
The Salk polio vaccine, with an inactivated (dead) virus, one that is cultured in human cells, not monkey kidney cells.
Even if this were your selection, it isn't do-able because you can't get diphtheria or pertussis individually & individual tetanus contains thimerosal. I assume from his previous statement regarding individual vaccines that he would not be in support of a combined DTaP.
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Even if this were your selection, it isn't do-able because you can't get diphtheria or pertussis individually & individual tetanus contains thimerosal. I assume from his previous statement regarding individual vaccines that he would not be in support of a combined DTaP.
So what he is really saying is don't do any! That's a vax schdule I can live with! :LOL

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I liked the article because it is something I can print out to show my Ped. when they want to argue with me about my decision not to vax. Thanks for posting the link!
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Once again, thank you all so much. I came over because my 14 mo old is going in for a wbc in Feb. and I wanted some printed ammo to take. Although I do use an ND for both my children, I wanted to maintain a relationship with their mainstream MD in case I needed a referral to a specialist in the future.

Since this is a 15 mo wbc, they are going to recommend MMR, plus the hibs he "missed".

I printed out "A Child's Best Time Table" including "Your Doctor Won't Like This" and will give her that for his file. He had 3 DTaPs, 2 Hepb and Hib by 6.5 months, so I'll point out that he's way ahead of my "schedule" LOL.

(We're an adoptive family and the agency that was his guardian required regular wbc and recommended vax till the adoption was finalized.)

Now to move forward to get ready for DD's 5 year check up in March
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So what he is really saying is don't do any! That's a vax schdule I can live with! :LOL

exactly what i got from it...

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So what he is really saying is don't do any! That's a vax schedule I can live with! :LOL
I think the writer was incredibly intelligent in that he gives the circumstances by which he feels these shots would be safe--whether those options are available now or not. The point being that if the option exists (perhaps in the future) he would feel it were safe.

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Sounds good so far (even though I'm not sure where the 6 month interval comes from)
He stated that this would give the immune system time to recover.

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Children who contract whooping cough (pertussis) can be incapacitated for more than a month. Polio can be devastating in susceptible individuals. And no one wants to get tetanus (lockjaw). A user-friendly vaccination schedule would include vaccines against these diseases.
I am familiar with Dr. ******'s schedule. We've discussed it before on this board. I have read his schedule several time.

And if Mercola is agreeing with it, I am sorry that he has changed his mind about vaccinating. Because from what I know, he was totally against any and all. Or am I wrong?

I don't see any reason to injecting one singe does of anything.

Whooping cough can not give immunity even if you have the disease.
Same with diphtheria.
Polio is not a threat anywhere in a healthy individual.
Tetanus can not create immunity to the disease.

I am all for not doing any!

I would never inject foreign protein into a healthy (or sick) child.
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Sounds good so far (even though I'm not sure where the 6 month interval comes from)

He stated that this would give the immune system time to recover.
Yes, but where does the 6 month figure come from? What makes him believe it takes 6 months? What constitutes recovery? Does it take the same amount of time for all vaccines? Did he just figure 6 months sounded like a decent time frame?
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