While flying over the Christmas holidays dd was sleeping in the sling (only 5 weeks old at the time) and on one of the flights I was asked (well not really asked, told) to remove her from the sling and hold her on my lap. When I questioned the flight attendant, thinking that wouldn't it be safer to have her secured in a sling than merely sleeping on my lap, she told me I couldn't use it because it was not an FAA approved harness. This only happened on one of the four flights we took so it is obviously a rule that is only selectively enforced. Anyway, we were flying Delta, but I am not sure if the rules vary or if this really is an FAA thing?
From Southwest website:
|Are infant carriers permitted?
Most infant carriers are designed simply to provide convenience in carrying babies. With the exception of a few recently manufactured automobile safety seats that convert to carriers, they do not provide sufficient protection to qualify as CRDs. While you may carry your baby on and off the aircraft in an infant carrier (provided it does not exceed the size limitations for carryon items), it must be properly stowed either underneath a seat or in an overhead bin for taxi, takeoff, and landing.
Here is something from Airline safety.com , BTW this is NOT a FAA rule or supported by them, its the opinion of Airline safety.com's editor and some reasons he gives for the FAA strcit guildines regaurding Carriers/backpacks/slings...
|Letters to the Editor
Subject: Infant carriers
From: Deborah Spiegel [email protected]
"The best advice I can give, for a child under 2, is to obtain the kind of device I have seen on both mothers and fathers in shopping centers. It looks something like a reverse back pack. The baby is installed in it and it is then worn on the front of the parent so that the baby is hugging the chest of the parent." Lap Children
I just got home from our Thanksgiving trip. I had my 3-month-old son in his Baby Bjorn carrier. The US Airways flight attendant told me that I could not keep him in that for safety reasons and that I had to hold him on my lap. She even showed me a book that had that information.
I disagreed with her and kept him in the pack attached to me. God forbid there was an emergency, I wanted him to be connected to me. Just thought I'd let you know.
This is an excellent letter because it illustrates the nanny-state mentality of some FAA bureaucrats. The reason they want you to hold the baby on your lap, without restraint, is because they are fearful that some parents will try to attach the infant pack to the seat belt instead of to the parent, or worse, to wrap the seat belt around both parent and infant -- which would lead to severe injury to the baby, in the event of rapid deceleration. Those of us with common sense find it hard to understand why the FAA regulation cannot simply require that the F/As check for those kinds of situations, without requiring the parent to remove the infant from a front pack carrier that is strapped to the parent (not to the seat belt).
My advice is to do just what you did: ignore their request and put your baby and common sense, ahead of the idiotic rules of the FAA.
But please, do so courteously. It isn't the Flight Attendants' fault. They are required to advise you of that irrational regulation. [See also Toddlers and the Rational Solution]
Robert J. Boser
It annoys me though, that they will make you hold your baby on your lap, where it is impossible to keep a hold on him if something happens.
Tina ~ SAH- head Mama to -
DS (07/'03), DD (05'05), DS, unplanned UC (01/'09), DD (06/'11) ...
SURPRISE! New little one, due Sept. 2013
I didn't get any comments on my sling, but I don't wear ds sitting down. I can't see why on earth you can't continue wearing baby. If baby is happy, why take him out? It's much easier to hold them when they are attached to you.
Perhaps airlines need to receive some letters requesting they refine their policies?
I tend to use a pouch for airport and travel, just as an aside. I had DS in the KKAFP and they didn't make me take him off to go through security, because it's all cloth.
Just last week I flew on Continental with my now 20 month old baby in the sling and nobody said a thing. She slept snug against me for take off and half the flight.
ITA - it is a lifesaver in the airport. Also I recommend getting carry on (diaper bag) with wheels!! Also a lifesaver!!
She slings from the minute we walk in the airport till the minute we disembark
The only thing we ever did was switch sides so she could get the other boobie
Anyway, not that you asked, but personally, we ALWAYS use a carseat on planes. Always. It costs more to buy a separate seat, but if we can't afford it, we don't go.
2/02, 4/05, 2/07, 11/09, and EDD 12/25/11
I agree that something needs to be done about these ridiculous rules. It can't possibly be safer to hold a baby in your arms where you would never be able to hang on in the event of deceleration. They would be much safer in the sling.
I know some people are sticklers for carseats on planes but not me. Way too big a hassle for something that is so unlikely to happen. But that's just me!
Homeschooling, Homesteading Mama to DD ('02) and DS ('04)
with the growing popularity of baby carriers this is bound to be an issue. I don't mind rules if they make sense, but this is just silly!!
Homeschooling, Homesteading Mama to DD ('02) and DS ('04)
the only issue i have is that you have to remove your carrier when going through the metal detectors and security points. that is a total PITA!!!! the one time i didn't do it i had a ring sling on and the metal in the ring set the machine off. well, holy heck broke loose. i had to go behind a screen and hand over my 6 week old infant because they couldn't wand me with her in my arms? then my toddler bum- rushed me because she was terrified that i had to go behind the screen, and they yelled, you can't touch her!!!! WTF?????????? i now had a scremming toddler and newborn, and my DH was PISSED to say the least!!!!!!! he was like, don't you have someone better to investigate than a new mom? uggh it was soo aggrivating. ever since then i have removed my sling prior to going through the metal detector just for sanity sake!!!!
we are flying in may, i'll have to see if they force me to take off the kozy or not. that doesn't have metal in it so, i am thinking of trying to get through security with someone on my back LOL
On a return flight from France last March, they wouldn't let us bring our car seat on the plane for our 2 year old to sit in. He had his own seat but was way too small for the seatbelt. Basically they forced him to ride unrestrained during takeoff and landing. I was pissed!
|Originally posted by jessicaSAR
My 5 week old was patted down at security as well. I think it was the cloth diapers - they thought we had something hidden in there:LOL
I flew when my now 6yo dd was five months old. The airport and airline staff was much more accomodating and helpful then. They were also much nicer. The staff and crew were so rude the last time we flew, we complained and got a voucher. We won't be using the voucher because I won't be flying with that airline again if I can help it.
I understand security is tighter and they've had cutbacks. I'm still paying for a service. I wanted to complain while we were in transit, but felt I couldn't. I felt like a hostage of the freakin' airline.
It felt a lot like dealing with the Post Office. GRR!
That's my rant.
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