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I'm looking to purchase a back pack carrier for ds for his first birthday. Anyone have experience with Mei Tai vs. Ergo vs. Onbuhimo?

I've heard a lot of good things about the Ergo, but I think it looks ugly and bulky. I much prefer the appearance of the Mei Tai, but my ds is already 20lbs. The site I'm looking at says the Mei Tai is best for kids 20lbs and under - so will this not work well for my child? Has anyone used it for kids heavier than 20lbs?

How about the Onbuhimo? It says it is good for babes up to 30lbs. Anyone use this? Is it similar tot he Mei Tai, but stronger to hold a heavier baby?
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What's the difference between Mei Tei and Onbuhimo?

I've used Mei Tei and love it.

Mom of a 7 yr old, 4 yr old, and 1 yr old. Wow. How did that happen?
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I'm not sure what the difference is. Maybe you can tell since you have the Mei Tai. Here is the Onbuhimo.

How old/heavy is your child that you carry in the Mei Tai?

Is it easy to put on by yourself?
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I just posted about this on another thread. That is an authentic, traditional Mei Tei on peppermint.com. Something like the EBMT or Kozy is really a variation on the traditional carrier, and will be designed for carrying bigger babies.

A major difference is that the Onbuhimo does not have waist straps. The shoulder straps cross on the chest (or back, I guess), then go through metal loops at the bottom, then back to tie at the waist. IIRC, the straps are more narrow and less padded. It also has a little insert that is more rigid for babies who need more head/ back support.
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I just posted about this on another thread. That is an authentic, traditional Mei Tei on peppermint.com. Something like the EBMT or Kozy is really a variation on the traditional carrier, and will be designed for carrying bigger babies.
Thanks. I just check out the Kozy and it may be the answer to my backpack dilemma.

What is the EBMT?
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It's the Equanimity Baby Mei Tei. See my post on the "Ow, my back" thread for a comparison of the Kozy and EBMT.
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Thank you soo much Tupelo!
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hey, I'm glad I could be helpful
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I have a Mei Tai from equanimity baby and an Ergo. I find the Ergo WAY more comfortable. My daughter is 24 lbs. Also IMO it is a real hassle and quite embarassing when you are in public and baby wants to switch from back to front or get up and down and you have these long straps hanging all over the ground. With the ergo you just slip arms in the straps and you're done.

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Does your Ergo have straps that cross? The straps on the newer style do not--they can only be worn backpack-style. Theoretically, you could still wear the baby on the front, but it is really hard to get the chest strap around the two shoulder straps behind your own back. Another issue with the Ergo is that some people find the shoulder straps too long and cannot adjust them tightly enough, making it uncomfortable. So it may not be the best option for short-waisted mamas.

Also, different things are embarrassing to different people. I would not feel like it was a big deal to untie the carrier and twist it to the opposite side. Granted, the Kozy would be less to deal with since the straps are shorter. Heavenly, maybe you are just a buckles-and-straps kind of girl. IIRC, you have tried and not liked the ER wrap, a Moby (twice?), and the EBMT. It just goes to show that we're lucky there's so much out there now, so we can all find our perfect carrier, even if it takes a bit of trial and error.

As for me, I mainly still stick to my Maya Wrap when I'm out and about because it's just so quick and easy for me. I am a ring-sling kind of mama! I tend to use the Kozy or EBMT for playing outside, and usually only on the back.
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I have both an EBMT and a Kozy, so I can give you a comparison. The most noticabl;e overall difference is that the Kozy is very soft--all the fabrics, including the canvas, are prewashed. I've seen it compared to a perfectly broken in pair of jeans, which I think is an apt comparison. The Mei Tai is not prewashed so it has a heavier, stiffer feel at first. It's not stiff, and it's not a bad thing, it's just not soft and broken-in feeling like the Kozy. The EBMT fabrics don't seem to wash well, either. They can be spot cleaned and dry cleaned. The other major difference is that the Kozy straps are shorter and designed to be knotted under the baby's bum, whereas the EBMT shoulder straps are very long and are meant to be wrapped back around and tied on the opposite side of you from the baby. Also the EBMT straps have thicker padding, and it goes a longer way down the straps. I thought I would not like this, but I do, because if I do a backpack style carry (straps not crossed on my chest), then bring the straps down under baby's bum, cross, bring under her legs and back in front to tie at the waist, the part of the straps that crosses her legs/bum is still padded right up to where they cross. But I like the Kozy straps too because it's nice not to have so much around my waist. The last difference that seems minor but I find to have a big effect on the way I wear the carrier is the waist straps. On the EBMT, it goes straight across and actually through the "seat" of the carrier, between the canvas and the outer fabric, and comes straight out either side. On the Kozy, the waist straps are two separate straps that come out at an angle. Since my dd is older (1 1/2), I need to roll the waist a few times before tying so that the body of the carrier comes up to her arm pits instead of all the way up behind her head. It's a lot easier to do this and have it stay put with the EBMT. I also like to have the body of the carrier come up out of the waist strap, rather than down, which is also easier to do with thye EBMT. So they are both really nice--they just yhave differences that are going to fall into the personal preferences category.
I decided to post your quote from the other thread - I hope that's okay with you. I didn't want to hijack the other mama's thread by asking you more questions.

It sounds like the fabric on the Kozy is better - washable and softer – but it seems like you prefer the EBMT as far as fit goes. .

I'm thinking I might prefer the Kozy because the straps aren't as long. (Kind of like Heavenly said) I'm petite and with tie slings I always feel like I have to wrap the fabric around me 100 times until I look like a mummy to get it to fit right. So I’m not sure that I want the “tails” to be longer.

Does anyone know of any other back pack carriers that I should look into? So far I think I’m leaning towards a Kozy.

ETA: Tupelo we posted at the same time. I like the Maya and OTSBH, but I can't seem to find a comfortable way to wear him in it for very long. I can never get them securely on my back in it - so it's either on my hip or in front of me and I end up getting a stiff neck.
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No problem. I like both carriers, actually. The waist strap on the EBMT is really the only part of it I like better. The EBMT fabrics are very nice, but more formal, KWIM? But yeah, the Kozy's washability is nice, and the softness. The downside of either one is the long wait. I'd get on the Kozy list asap! There are several similar carriers on the market now. The Kozy has been around for a while and a lot of the others are sort of copying it, though many have their own variations. Also, you can request the straps to be shorter, since both carriers are sewn to order.
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Ok, let me see if I can do this. Here is a pic of me with Somerset in the EBMT: (sorry it's so huge, and no I don't mean my butt!
<img src=http://img67.photobucket.com/albums/v205/mothersville/P4030021.jpg>
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Love the pic! Nice butt

How long is the wait usually for a Kozy - any idea?

ETA: I can't get on the Kozy website Also you mention that there are lots of similar knock-offs of Kozy. Where would I find them?
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Ok I got on her site. It says the wait is at least a month. I really, really like the look of the Kozy so I may wait, but before I place my name on the list I want to check out all my options so if anyone knows any Kozy/Mei Tai type carriers post here or pm me
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Getting on the list doesn't obligate you. She won't charge you until your # is up. The Baby Backtie is similar except the straps aren't padded, and I think instead of canvas the whole carrier is made of the patterned fabric. She lists this carrier on the Kozy site as her inspiration for the Kozy. The Cuddle-n-carry (is that right?) is another ABC type carrier. Some WAHMs sell their similar carriers on ebay. I'd search Kozy (some may put "like kozy"), Mei Tei (or tai, or tie), and Asain Baby Carrier. HTH!
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I am awaiting the arrival of my new Mei Tai at this very moment! I bought it off of Ebay after hearing great things about Kaire from http://www.freewebs.com/freehand/index.htm She does have another auction up on Ebay right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4302176362
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Thanks mamahammer - the one on ebay is beautiful. How heavy is the baby you use it with?
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He's 25 pounds and 12 months old. I haven't gotten it yet, it should come in the mail this weekend. But I'll definitely give you a report when it comes
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She makes some beautiful carriers. I hope I win the auction, but I always get outbid at the last second on ebay

ETA: Definately check back after you get in and tell me what you think of it.
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Good luck to ya on the auction! Please let us know how y'all like the carrier. her design is pretty.
Anyone tried the Onbuhimo she makes?
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I already got outbid!
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Ok screw ebay I want one of those! :LOL

I just ordered one directly from her. The black one with the purple celtic design was sooo beautiful I had to order it!

I'm so excitied!!!!!
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My link above won't show the one I purchased since her items are one of a kind I guess she removed it. She emailed me and said she could have it done by Monday. I'm soooo excited to get it!

If I can figure out how to get the baby in it sucessfully I post a picture!
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OK so I NEED to figure something else out... I have a 19 mo dd and a 3 yo dd and I ususally carry lil dd in the sling. (i have a couple) and It is getting REALLY hard to carry her for anything longer than 20 min or so... And she only weighs about 22 lbs! :
My back is ACHING! I THINK I want a mei tai or a Onbuhimo carrier... I am so picky though.
I Cant STAND anything that I HAVE to wear crossed over,wrapped around or squishing the *girls* (ie. by breasts) and It has to be able to carry a newborn-35 lb. preschooler (my 3yo is only about 29-30 lbs at the moment) and still look cool..... what is my best bet, oh seasons baby carrying mommas???
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I have both a mei tei and an onbuhimo bought here Free Hand Carriers and I love them both for different reasons. I do find the onbuhimo more comfortable for long periods because of the shoulder padding though.
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I got my mei tai today and it's sooooo beautiful! I have my ds in it right now in the front possition and he's sleeping

I have a stupid question though. On the rectangle piece there is a padded end and a non padded end. Am I right in assuming the padded end goes by his head or is it but support?
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OHHH!!!! Pictures! Pictures, Momma!!!
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OHHH!!!! Pictures! Pictures, Momma!!!
Well if you insist

Ok I'm not great at posting picture, but I'm giving it a shot.

Here is the carrier itself:
http://www.artisticsilverandstone.co...s/P1010168.JPG

Here is my 4 year old in it. He's over 40lbs. He was really happy in there.
http://www.artisticsilverandstone.co...s/P1010167.JPG

I'll post pics of the baby in it later.

ETA: The link works for me, but man do I look horrible in that photo. I'm just placing a warning look at child and carrier only! :
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after reading the posts about kaire's handiwork, i went and got one too... (much cheaper than the kozy or the equanimity) mine doesn't have any padding though... BUT as soon as i got it in the mail (like 20 minutes ago) i was so eager to try it on that i put my 4 year old almost 50 pound son on my back (my 2 year old peanut of a girl is napping) and carried him around the living room! not only did HE love it, but i was QUITE comfortable... AND i have a big 8 month preggo mama belly! i tied the waist straps under the front of my belly and the top straps over my shoulders backpack style and tied it under his butt. i took him off after about 10 minutes, but only because i wanted to post about it on here.

i might just get another one... one for the toddler and one for the new baby. i LOVE this carrier, it's exactly what i needed!

thanks to everyone that posted their experience and advice on my other thread and on this one!!!
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