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#1 of 11 Old 09-08-2006, 10:41 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I got some fishy survey from this so called organization. Does anyone know anything about them? The survey askes all about when I received formula and what brands and when I used each brand. (dd has never had any formula in her 9 months) It sounds like a formula company posing as an independent research company. I couldn't find much about them in my inquiries but I would like to know more. Should I fire off a nasty letter or throw the survey away?
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EDIT: Forget what I said. It looks like a formula scam. http://www.hipmama.com/node/671
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Even though it is a formula-funded survey---Ross/Abbott Labs---I have seen this research cited in academic papers, CDC, and on kellymom for that matter.

http://www.kellymom.com/writings/ross-data.html

In my mind, it's like McDonald's sending me a "research survey" about nutrition choices with a lot of mentions of their new Chicken McNuggets product. I'm a vegetarian so anything I say is only going to be marginally helpful for them in marketing their product, but there may be some benefit in having them know that there are a growing number of vegetarians out here.

I think it's a individual decision, but, for me, it was kind of empowering to say to a formula company: DS has been EBF for 6 months...and we're still going strong!

Especially if that info gets used by the CDC, my local health department, WIC, etc...
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When I received my survey form from them, it had a place to mark if you were breastfeeding, how old your baby was, if you had introduced solids yet, etc. DS was 5 months and still no solids, so I didn't have too many boxes to check, but I at least let them know that there was a happily breastfed baby in this house who didn't want any "baby junk food" (as my DD calls it).

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I shocked my dh by writing

" you, formula companies!" on the ff part of the survey. And I skewed my responses too (inaccurate about my age/occupation/education etc.)

I didn't realize that the survey was used by others, too. It was so transparently formula-oriented that it looked to me like it was absolutely just to figure out how well their marketing was working, and how to better target particular demographics. Especially since there was NOWHERE to put "exclusively breastfed," it was all written with an underlying assumption that I HAD supplemented and/or switched to formula, it was just a matter of when it happened that mattered to them .... that, I think, is a not-so-subtle jab at women who are "deviant" and continuing to exclusively breastfeed instead of supplement/wean to formula. It's an unwarranted assumption, and one which could be potentially damaging not only for a mother who has made the decision to breastfeed exclusively, but even more so to the mothers who are considering supplementing, or have begun supplementing, because it subtly reinforces the "this is the way it's *supposed* to be done, you NEED to supplement/wean" mentality. :

Incidentally after that little missive, I didn't receive another formula coupon or sample box (they'd been arriving regularly a couple times a month prior to that).

Now that I'm not so steamed and "in the moment," I can see the worth of filling it out accurately --- but still feel like it's main use will still be to figure out how to "get" to a particular demographic group. I don't know what I'll do if I get another.

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I think I filled out one of these with accurate responses a few months ago. This time, though, I just tore it in half, wrote them a little note about the inferiority of formula, and sent it all back in their postage-paid envelope. I worry that by providing accurate answers, I'll be helping them figure out how to market formula better.

I know they won't read my note. But as my FIL says, never miss an opportunity to mail back a postage-paid envelope to an organization you don't agree with.

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I used to get those with DS1 but after a while they must have got tired of my answers because they stopped sending them. I guess always answering no formula at all was too annoying for them.

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My standard response on whether to fill out this survey, is to remember, that in marketing "all information can and will be used against you, in the purpose of marketing". What that means is the less information, of any kind, that the formula co's get, the better.

Now if this is also the "Ross survey" (which I'm not sure it is) that is used by the gov't to complie bfing rates, then I might chnage my mind on this. OTH, I have big problems with the fact that gov't has to go to an industry source for these kind of stats. Breastfeeding rates should be important enough to the gov't, to warrant the spending to collect the unbiased stats needed, without having to rely on industry.

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i just got this survey. decided to fill out truthfully - no formula, ever. i'm just annoyed that they include "in the hospital" as a "time frame" during which your baby was fed - mine was never in the hospital!

how is this survey linked to Ross/Abbot labs?

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I think I filled out one of these with accurate responses a few months ago. This time, though, I just tore it in half, wrote them a little note about the inferiority of formula, and sent it all back in their postage-paid envelope. I worry that by providing accurate answers, I'll be helping them figure out how to market formula better.
This is my concern as well. I would advise against answering these formula-company-sponsored surveys, generally speaking.

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I know they won't read my note. But as my FIL says, never miss an opportunity to mail back a postage-paid envelope to an organization you don't agree with.

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Hey, I filled this out after DS was born. I answered truthfully (no formula). The "in the hospital" timeframe bugged me as well.:

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