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That just makes me sick! She is basically saying nursing past a year is wrong and will psychologically damage the child. And of course that we moms just do it for our own benefit. Do you know how many people are going to watch this and take it as the gospel truth? This is such a step backwards in the breastfeeding movement!

And don't get me started on the CIO! They all say there and analyzed her cries. Gee how nice of them - see she's not panicking and scared anymore, she's just giving up - good job Mom!

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Is the baby now sucking her thumb for lack of ANY other comfort??

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No doubt.

And as a testament to how much people listen... a friend of mine is instant messaging me right now telling me that supernanny is right, and SEE!? I told you that it was wrong to still be nursing!!!!


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And, this is the true problem with these type of shows. It sends a strong message to the masses.

I think the family, as a whole, might benefit from some of her techniques. The older boys were spiraling out of control and had a lack of respect for themselves and the family. I just can't, for the life of me, see why she was so adament that the Mom stop BF. I guess, like a PP said, the Mom must have really wanted to. (There is a TON of editing and like a week's worth of footage not seen) Murphy's Law kicked in and made sure the 2 minutes of tape we saw, was a pretty strong anti-extended BF message.

It's amazing (as a new mama who never payed ANY attention before) how many bottle references there are. I just removed the bottle from a doll given to us for Xmas.

Uh oh...now she's moving her baby to the crib.: :
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And did anyone else notice that after the mom weaned her the baby was crying in a few of the clips. Poor little thing doesn't know what hit her!

I read the Supernanny book and she is really against extended breastfeeding. She is totally open in her belief that she thinks it is solely for the mom's benefit and that it is because the mom is using the child to fill an emotional need. She also thinks that it keeps babies from developing properly. Someone should tell Jo to write the WHO because obviously they haven't gotten her memo!

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So mom has been replaced with a bottle of cow's milk and a stuffed animal. Nice.
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are you kidding me, I wonder how many days between weaning and CIO in own bed.....aggggghhhhhhh
Well Jo said something like, "Look what they accomplished in 6 days that they couldn't do in 6 years"

Yeah way to go : That poor. poor baby - weaned cold turkey and forced to go from nursing in next to mommy in bed to CIO in her own crib in 6 days or less.

Atleast the show is over now and I can stop wanting to throw things at the TV.

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I'm so glad I didn't watch this.
It sounds horrifying.
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Sure, she did help them. No more hitting. The family is functioning better. The thing that really bugged me is she (or someone else) could of helped them in different ways that were more positive in the long run. Weaning, could of been done MUCH better, and wasn't necessary at all to accomplished what the mother really wanted. In fact weaning was done was wrong as it possibly could be. The same goes for the baby sleeping in the bed. The baby in the bed wasn't the problem. It was the 6 year old that wouldn't stay in bed and needed limits and wasn't working for them. As others has mentioned the psychical benefits of continued breast feeding was ignored.

I will be writing a letter to NBC.
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I can't believe they sent out such a TERRIBLE message about breastfeeding, the whole thing is sick.

Did you hear the mother say at the end that now that Alicia is weaned that she can do more with her?!?!!?

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Wow I just had to reply...echoing others here...

To force such drastic changes on a 14 month old in the presumably short span of time it takes to film an episode is sooooooo soooo sad. I am struggling myself with continuing to nurse my 26 month old. But as *tired* as I feel sometimes of the constant requests to nurse from my ds, I was in tears when they tried to force that bottle on the baby...then to put her in a crib right after that...I guess every family is different, but still...why? why? why?

You can see that the mama is ready for a change and certainly setting up rules for the older children seems like it would help this family. But ABC/Jo has made it seem that weaning and ending co-sleeping is the sole reason that this family is now spending time together as a family!!!! Of course it won't occur to the average viewer that maybe this sudden surge in family togetherness might be due to the parents giving their kids some positive attention to break the cycle of constant yelling/whooping/negative attention....

Ugh the image of that baby clawing at the pillow covered breast on national tv...that poor poor child...it just makes me feel even more strongly certain in my decision not to force my child to wean early...it certainly hasn't stopped him from developing....ugh and they made it seem like weaning was the reason the baby started walking and talking!!!!

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A quick Goggle of "Supernanny anti breastfeeding" pulls up a LOT of blogs from tonight with people outraged at the show.

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Nurse-in at ABC studios anyone?
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Nurse-in at ABC studios anyone?
Awesome idea!

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....ugh and they made it seem like weaning was the reason the baby started walking and talking!!!!
Exactly. You know for certain that the baby was indeed walking, interacting, and playing while she was nursing. They just didn't show that at the beginning because they wanted viewers to see that the baby was "always attached to her breast!!" Then after the forced weaning they showed her playing and running around as if by magic she was now more independent.

You see? Because everyone mainstream knows that nursing makes your children dependent and holds them back.

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I will be writing a letter to NBC.
They might be a little confused if you do... It's an ABC show

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Wow, this thread makes me glad I didn't watch it.:
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The studios in Chicago have nice big windows right on State Street, great way to get attention!

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The studios in Chicago have nice big windows right on State Street, great way to get attention!
I soooo wish I could.

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I soooo wish I could.
It would take a lot of people, but it would be neat if it would work.

I checked LLL message boards and didn't see a Lactivism/Activism forum...does anyone know of one?

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here's one little thing we can do, from Promom 3min activist, about how the supernanny's book has bad bfing advice...
http://www.promom.org/3min/3min_supe...ebruary06.html
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I was in the middle of fixing supper so I only caught bits and pieces (oh and nursing my 25 month old *gasp*)...I finally had to switch it over to Law & Order when they started doing the CIO...give me a good old fashioned (TV) homicide over a baby screaming all alone in a cage any day of the week

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This is wonderful, this thread! I don't have a TV but have seen some of the dvd's of this show. Good to know what I'm "missing" by not paying cable. Heehee. I'm validated. Sounds like a good horror show.
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I think I'm glad I missed this episode

And WTH? How is it logical to put a 14 month old on bottles? I do not get that at all, at all, at all! :

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I felt so bad for that baby. I also felt bad for what mom must have felt like with the advice given...that mom is going to have problems going from nursing 24/7 to cold turkey weaning
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this episode of the Super Nanny was the season finale, btw
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It would take a lot of people, but it would be neat if it would work.

I checked LLL message boards and didn't see a Lactivism/Activism forum...does anyone know of one?

They have one. You have to be registered and logged in to see it.
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I logged on ABC and sent a response. They only allowed 200 characters, so I had to edit considerably! This is all I managed to sqeeze in, with most of the invective removed.

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I was horrified by the content of your March 12 episode, involving the Walker family. Nanny Jo's advice on breastfeeding & weaning went directly contrary to the recommendations from every reputable medical organization, including the American Academy of Pediatrics. Nursing past 1 year is strongly advised, while Jo implied that it is inappropriate and even harmful to children! Her advice is misguided and based on ignorance. I'm very disappointed to see ABC presenting this as expert advice.
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They might be a little confused if you do... It's an ABC show

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Opps, I knew that too. : See how out of sorts I am.
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They have one. You have to be registered and logged in to see it.
Thank you, I didn't log in!

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anyone else cringe when Jo said, "how do i put this nicely... attached to the breeeeeast"???
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