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#151 of 176 Old 08-08-2004, 02:47 PM
 
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OMG! So many babies! Congrats heather, leah, traci and caroline...i think thats it. I had to cheat a bit too yay!

I am still here, due friday. Getting impatient but seeing as I went past due with ds I am trying not to get too antsy.

Bears: I agree, if your FIL is going to be annoying might as well get some use out of him. One the worst parts about being past EDD with ds was the constant phone calls "have you had the baby yet?" I mean, what a dumb question. No we did, we just decided not to tell anyone! Wasn't it Kate who left a message on her machine for everyone to bug off? That sounds like a good idea!

Kate: glad you are feeling better So nice fo your family to help you out.

so who's gonna be next? Daednu has been mia for awhile...hmm who else?

Well the weather is beautiful here again today, which has made my moods considerably better! Gonna be horribly hot again soon so we are enjoying it while it lasts! Ok, thats all for me. Can't wait to read all the new birth stories.

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When I went overdue with ds, I left a message on the answering machine that said, "hi you have reached yada yada yada, and no we have not had the baby yet. Please leave a message." I haven't had to resort to that yet. I am seriously thinking about canceling my walking in the graduation ceremony tomorrow. I just don't see how I'm going to be able to do it. I couldn't sit through church today. I left before the sermon started so I wouldn't interupt. I just wasn't getting comfortable and my feet were swelling right before my eyes. Last week I couldn't fit into any shoes. How am I going to sit in a little rinky dinky folding chair for an hour listening to a speech, then waiting for my turn to walk for another hour. UG. I wouldn't do it if it weren't for my dad making a big deal out of it and inviting the ENTIRE family. I really don't want to do it. I'd rather be induced. j/k I would rather call my doctor and ask him to make up something like....I need to be on temporary bed rest for one day only...tomorrow!
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POst #500 for me.

Still here and still pregnant. I need to get off the boards- I figured I would have a baby WELL before I hit 500 posts.


It is too bad it hurts so much to move!
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*grumble*
Missing but not in action.

I'm getting the GIANT belly. Though I'm lucky that it's just my belly that's huge. Everyone keeps commenting on how I've kept my face/figure but the belly keeps expanding. This baby really needs to get an eviction notice now.
The woman who was supposed to watch Sid when I go to the birth centre just found a job. I'm very happy for her because she needs a job. But it does mean I no longer have anyone to watch Sid. Eeeep! Not quite sure what I'm going to do about that one...

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Christeenybeany, I'm with you. Church today was NOT a comfortable experience. I usually really enjoying going, but today, I could hardly sit, it hurt so much. DH jokingly asked me if he should run home and get my birthing ball since that is truly the only seat that feels good.

Anyways. Just came back from a 30 min walk. Thank God for the nice weather this weekend.

Congrats to all the moms who had their babies in the last few days, I'm sure the birth stories will be so interesting.
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Congrats to all the moms who had their babies in the last few days, I'm sure the birth stories will be so interesting.
I hope so! I just posted mine... enjoy!

He's doing GREAT... what a trooper with my big engorged gazongas. He's happy with me, his dad, his sister... a very easygoing kid so far. I feel like I've won the lottery!

hugs to all... you'll get here, too, sooner than you know!

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Katje-What a GREAT birth story. I am getting strength and inspiration from all the birth stories, truly...

Jilly-Yeah, just to drive the ILs crazy, we should have the baby and WAIT a day to tell them... They tend to be a little control-freaky (I don't know how they had two children of their own sometimes!) so they want to somehow micromanage this whole thing although it's happening to MEEEEEEE!!!!!!

daednu-We were hoping you were in labor....sorry you're in the OD boat, too. I'm also wondering about Ketilave...hoping her labor happens soon as I think she's passed 1 or 2 of her due dates...

Nothing new going on tonight. One of my friends who tends to be a little psychic said she really felt that I would go today...Well, if that's gonna happen I have approximately 2 hours to get things going....

Tomorrow will be day 4 past due....we'll see what this week brings. I hope it brings some happy, healthy babes for some of us....


Thinking of all of you....Sleep well, ladies (if you can, if not, think of me!)...
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Don't quote me on this, but I thought that ketilave had passed three due dates.
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Well maybe something is happening with Kate now since we haven't heard from her today, have we?

I love katje's birth story. Congratulations mama! Enjoy your sweetie. He looks so cute and chubby.

Bears...I cracked up at the idea of having the baby and waiting to tell the il's. funny stuff.

The weather has been beautiful here too. Instead of our usual 103 degrees, we had 89. I could actually tolerate stepping outside to watch dh and ds play together. I did'nt stay long, but I did look. To this pregnant lady in this 40 pound sac of fluid and baby 89 is still too hot.

I did cancel my graduation celebrations. My dad was fine with it thank goodness. Everyone else understood, but I was afraid of my dad. He's coming anyway and we're going to go take pictures on campus with me in my cap and gown anyway. I'm just going to pose with the "fake" diploma that my dh got 2 years ago. That is the same thing i would get anyway. The real one comes in the mail after 6 weeks. This should be an experience, just me ds and my dad, posing for pics on campus....hmm.

Goodnight everyone. Sleep tight. Maybe we'll hear more from mommy caroline or a birth announcemnt from ketilave tomorrow.
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Well, I'm home everyone! I see my friend Pamela posted for me. It was a wonderful experience, despite being a "dreaded cesarean section". I have to say, it was all I wanted and more. And, when I have more time, I'll post my story. I've already written a first draft, but it's verrrrrry long. Maybe I'll put it on my blog, if anyone wants to read the whole thing there.


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my baby is here!

i'll write up the whole story in a while, but i had a baby boy about 5:25 p.m., after about ten hours of light labor and then two hours of the real thing. he was born in my backyard hot tub, and the midwife made it with only five minutes to spare!

no name yet. he's 9 lb. 10 oz., blondish, has a great latch, is very mellow and relaxed... and, of course, BEAUTIFUL!

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And, Katje, my son is 13 minutes older than yours! Duncan is 9lb 7 oz, blondish (maybe some red, too?), very mellow and relaxed, has a great latch and is beautiful too! Must have been a good day to have a baby boy!
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And, Katje, my son is 13 minutes older than yours! Duncan is 9lb 7 oz, blondish (maybe some red, too?), very mellow and relaxed, has a great latch and is beautiful too! Must have been a good day to have a baby boy!
caroline, i have a confession to make... we've been going round and round for two days on what to call this guy, and my dh had very nearly convinced me that he was going to be a Duncan! well, when i read that this was what you named your precious boy, it really made me think twice. i wasn't sure he was a Duncan but he wasn't fitting any of my other names, either.

it took a long session this afternoon, but we hit upon Lincoln finally (Malcolm and Latham were the other possiblities). i looked up the definition of Lincoln, and it was "at home by the pond." well, he was born in my tub, right at home! i started to cry when i read that... and he was Lincoln.

so i need to thank you for naming your baby Duncan, because now i'm really sure i've picked the right name for my own baby!

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Oh, Katje! What a beautiful name! I'm in tears. I'm so glad I was helpful in whatever small way I was.

Don't you just love baby love!

Just posted our birth story. It's extremely long, but I don't have the energy to edit it down to a more reasonable size. Enjoy!
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Congrats Heather, Leah, Traci and Caroline! (I cheated and pasted it. Cannot remember who I've congratulated and who I haven't).

Still no baby here. I'm really jealous of you Traci since you're the one I've identified as being the closest in due date. Please send me labor vibes. Because it doesn't seem to be happening here. And really no signs in sight. Did lose a tiny amount of the mucous plug. Am supposed to start NST tomorrow. Have some ideas to try for making it to next Monday without being induced.

Sorry you're so stressed out with SD K8.

Haven't read birth stories, so going to do that now. Maybe that will help. Take care all -

: madrone - : SAHM to 12 y.o. DS, : 9 y.o. DD, and : 4 y.o. DS
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It happened - 6:16pm Maillie Elizabeth was born at home aug. 8.

I just came down to send out emails and picture. I will post birth story and pictures soon.

Tiff - I am thinking of you and passing on my labour vibes.

Sorry - I only skimmed the posts. Looking forward to reading Katje and Caroline's birth stories. oh and a shout out to Traci too! Need to do mine so I don't confuse us all. If I forgot someone I apologize and will make it up in spades!
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Today is THE day!! I'm going to the hospital for prostaglandin gel tonight and hopefully that's all I need to get things rolling. My parents will be here in a few hours and my mom is staying for the rest of the week. So much stuff to do!!

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Congratulations to the new mommies I missed!!

I'm still hanging in. Thurday will be the big day if I don't go into labour on my own. I am not effaced, dilated, engaged (baby is floating really high) or anything, so at the moment it isn't looking good for a VBAC. I'm ok with it now as where it won't be an emergency c-section, I will have more control (I hope!) and I know what to expect. The baby is looking to be about the same size as big brother was, although I know their guesstimates can be off (they were saying 8lbs 11oz). The biophysical went excellent; she said the baby was "practice breathing" the whole time. I am comfortable with how things are looking and it will be nice to have a couple of days to just nest and get ready.
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Carla, hang in there. It will happen soon. I'm hoping you get the birth you want, although, after my recent experience, the birth you want may be a little different than what you envision in the first place.

As for the possibility of a cesarean section delivery, my honest advice is to just ask for what you want as you're going along. I had such a different experience this time around, I can't even say how wonderful it was. My first birth was great, even though it was an emergency cesarean, but there was so much I learned. I went into my DD's birth with a whole birth plan, and thoughts of how to control the birth and what I expected to happen, and nothing went as planned. Looking back, while I don't think anyone deliberately tried to hinder me, I think the plan itself set us up for some issues. This time, no birth plan, not even an infant care plan (which I had fully intended to get put together at some point before delivery). And, yet, everything went so much better. It was almost as if by not having it written down, I was able to open up and share what I wanted in a more heartfelt, sympathetic way and people actually wanted to do what I wanted. Different hospital, different doctor, different nurses, everything was different. But, I still feel that having a birth plan in place might have been problematic somehow.

And, when we made the decision to have the cesarean, I poured out my heart to my doctor, and told her how important it was to me that his birth be as natural as possible. She really bent over backwards to make that happen for us too. My advice is to get some thoughts together about what might be important to you as far as surgery goes, and then let go. No matter what, birth is beautiful and can be empowering, even if it doesn't look like the "ideal" birth we want.
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Thanks Caroline . This time, what birthplan I had was already mostly standard hospital proceedure, so I basically chucked it after going over it with the prenatal nurse, lol! My big thing is being awake during the proceedure. It's just not the same meeting your baby hours after everyone else has, plus DH would like to be there. I felt so heavy and drugged after the surgery, it was horrible.

(ETA: I still haven't given up totally on having a VBAC, I just realize the odds are reduced at this time)
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Kate! Congrats!!!

Kimberly (way overwhelmed with 2 kids.... dh is at work and I'm floundering with Libby who thinks her job is to make mommy go crazy)
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congratulations to the new mommas and babies!

caroline, i've heard that very thing about birth plans... that by abandoning the control we seek, we are put into a position of power and grace that we cannot plan for. there's probably some great life lesson to learn from that!

duncan's birth story was FANTASTIC! i was crying right along with you! what a wonderful birth for you both... i'm so proud of you. and what a great doctor you scored! i've been to scary vaginal births and beautiful c/sec births, and it sounds like you got one of the latter. well done and again my heartfelt congratulations!

my dh wrote his version of the birth story, and i was moved by his words (i wish i could post it... maybe i'll ask him if i can). anyway, he's an evolutionary biologist, and had been worried a bit by my age (41) and desire to avoid testing. he was all for the homebirth, but he also wanted some reassurance that the baby wasn't down syndrome or had other problems.

he wrote eloquently about feeling powerless about my insistence on avoiding amnio, and his lingering worries throughout my pregnancy, even though the baby was active and growing beautifully. and his relief upon meeting this baby, and knowing just by looking into his eyes that he was perfect... well, it made me cry. i'm so sorry i put him through that worry, although he was great about not pressuring me once i made my decision. i don't think i would have changed my mind, but i would have worked harder to get him the statistics and reassure him.

well, it's all moot now. this lil guy is obviously brilliant! (just like all our babies, right? ;-) he finally pooped last night (he didn't pass any mec at all at the birth, and it took him two days to get the system moving)... he's obviously feeling much better tummywise now.

i'm soooo in love with him! thanks so much, all of you wonderful ladies, who put up with all my whining these last few weeks... no matter what i said before, let me tell you know that it's SO WORTH IT!

come on, babies! welcome to the world!

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Oh, Katje. I hope, hope, hope, your DH will share his version of Lincoln's birth. You so rarely see the male perspective, it's so touching when a man cares so much to write it down.

I still have a ton of pictures to go through, some web stuff to work out. But, in the meantime, here's the first picture of Duncan I've posted. Thanks to Traci for the Granola Threads recommendation.

www.cameronclan.net/duncan.jpg

come on babies! Come on! We're waiting for you. It's a beautiful month to be born!
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All of you mamas should know how totally inspiring you are - all of you the ones that have homebirthed, hospital birthed, intervention-free, c-sections, all of it. It just amazes me to get on this thread and read about how you did it, and where you are at now. As a first time mama, I hope I have just some of the courage and strength you women obviously have.
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I noticed that we are on page 9 and that made me think, "where's dodo?" Are you out there having a baby?

Where's madrone? I think we should do some sort of daily role call because everytime someone doesn't post I think they may be having a baby. I'm probably as annoying as many well meaning in laws.

I met with a doula in training today and I don't really think I like her that much. I am meeting another one tomorrow. So far we've had 2 hour-long conversations on the phone that were grrrreat. She also does post partum work too. I'm really excited about her and I hope I get a good vibe from her.

On another topic, I am graduated! Tada! my ceremony was this afternoon but I didn't go. too big too hot too uncomfortable.

Caroline, your birth story was hilarious...and inspiring. I laughed. I cried. I made my husband read it too. Congratulations. I am so glad you are happy with the way things turned out because that is all that matters--that and your PRECIOUS little baby.

Goodnight all.
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Hi to all you mamas hanging in there with me!!

I was due on 8/5. It is now almost 8/10 and still no action. I really, really, really don't want to make it to my appointment this Friday. That would not be a great thing b/c we would have to talk induction then (I'll be 41 weeks on Thursday). I keep saying to DH that I just don't think this babe is EVER coming. Okay, I know I'm being a little overly dramatic...I was three days late with DS, but for some reason that seemed different. I feel like everything is on hold until this baby arrives. Like I can't continue with our normal routine and our days are becoming really, really boring .

Dodo-Did you see that ketilave had her babe????

Christeeny-Congrats again on the graduation. And I hope the picture-taking went well. Ya gotta make dad happy!

Madrone-I'm still hanging in here with you... My EDD was 8/5...

My2girlz-Best wishes to you on your labor!!

bwylde-Happy Nesting...

Caroline-Your words mean so much to me tonight as I contemplate what this birth will be like for me... Oh, and your little guy is sooo cute... and I just ordered something from Granolathreads, too!!

Katje-So happy to hear of your baby love...:infant:

And I agree with Sylvi-I really think that I will think of alll of you during birth (okay, ask me about that later...)Seriously, though, ALL of you have been such inspirations to me. C-sections, drugs, no drugs, vbacs, homebirths, hospital births....it doesn't matter to me. Your love and wisdom supercedes all this stuff...

Okay, that's it for me. Gotta go to bed. I have to stop "watching this pot", so-to-speak...
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That's sweet that someone thought *I* might be having a baby. I feel like a junior August mama, being due at the end of the month.

I wasn't sure whether I should start a new thread because I didn't want anyone to miss out on all the recent births (and because I'm so scatterbrained right now I'm afraid of forgetting someone in the updates).

I'll go start a new thread now. If I do forget someone, I hope that you won't hesitate to point it out.
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Alright, ladies, here you go:
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