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Caroline248 06-06-2004 08:10 PM

I know we have discussed this, but I am really getting down to business now and want to get organized. I am going to part-time cloth diaper. I hate using cloth out of the house, the transportation is just too much. So I will use disposables out and probably during the night, I can't deal with the night leaks...

So....I am going to go with only CP, DSQ. I have some larger ones, I will probably get about a dozen small. My friend is sewing up some doublers...

I have used Bummis Wraps and Proraps...what wraps does anyone here recommend to use with chinese prefolds??


Mom2baldie 06-06-2004 09:16 PM

I may get a few more small CPF if I were you... For covers I would use Bummis Super Whisper Wraps and/or Motherease Airflows.

hjohnson 06-07-2004 09:23 AM

Caroline if you want to CD at night try either the solid color Happy Heinys or the Fuzzibunz. DS wears those at night and I have never had a leak and he sleeps 10 hours straight.

I love the Bummis SW Wraps and I am hoping to try Litewraps with "lil' bit".

Caroline248 06-07-2004 09:37 AM

Heather, I have tried every one out there at night....they always leaked and my girls ended up with awful rash if I didn't wake them up and change them. I really think I am going the easier route and doing disposables at night, at least for now. The thought of dealing with that all over again just exhausts me. Maybe this one will ahve tougher skin like my oldest!!

I love Bummis....I will probably stick with those....

Anyone know any good cheap doublers?? I like the terry ones, but with a top layer of fleece that would be nice too....


hjohnson 06-07-2004 09:50 AM

I think Joey Bunz has some fleece topped doublers if you like hemp. I am trying to think where else you can find doublers. I have never had to use them but I might since I am getting tired of stinky hemp.

sistermama 06-07-2004 11:37 AM

Caroline - I have some of the Fuzzibunz stay dry liners that I bought from Baby Belle Bottoms I really like them cause I can use them on top of any kind of diaper I'm using at the time. They're also good when you know you won't be able to change the baby for a while.

mum2tori 06-07-2004 02:39 PM

I've never bought seperate doublers. I just always get one with the diapers I love the most. I love our Joeys to use as Stuffers, Krista started making them fleece-topped after I'd gotten a bunch so I've never tried them (always used a fleece liner that I cut out) but I know a lot of people that really like them.

Trimmest diaper (and still absorbent)... a joey layed inside a cover. Almost as trim as a disposible. Works great for those snug outfits (especially shorts and jeans). We used these with my DD before I got bit by the WAHM fitted bug. We used FuzziBunz a lot with my DD (my Dh really liked them). I've used the Happy Hineys with DS with really good results (like the aplix better than the snaps of the FB).

The only leak proof night diapering system that has worked for us is a Heavy duty hemp diaper (like a ManyDucks or night diaper or all-hemp Mudpuddles) and a wool cover like an Aristocrat. My DS likes to pee massive amounts at one time and that's the only way he wakes up "dry" in the mornings.

I like Proraps for the Newborn stage (cheap to get, especially if you get the seconds which look identical and easy to clean). After that I use a lot of wool. I know a lot of people swear by MotherEase Airflows as a pretty leak proof cover. I love using BizzyB Hive fleece covers too.

banana girl 06-23-2004 05:55 PM

lets talk about diaper's, baby... lets talk, all of you and me... lets talk about all the good things and the bad things about baby, pee pee! (to the tune of, let's talk about sex)

seriously... i finally have clue about all this diaper stuff and want more feedback from you experienced mama's. I know we have discussed this before, but I must admit i stuck my fingers in my ears and chanted " watermelon, watermelon... watermelon" right, Savannah!

how many diapers do I really need for each "stage". How often do you change your kids in a day and how much time do you spend washing diaps?

I just went through my diaper stash, handed down from big sis, and it seems... well,.. LACKING! she primarily used Nicky's, which look awfully leaky to me.. when i compare to the options out there anyway!

there's so much info out there and some of it seems awfully conflicting... What has worked for you? please include links to the products you are talking about whenever possible, I'm an awfully visual person and have way to much free time in front of the computer!

Links I've liked so far

Diaper fixated Anna Banana

P.S. Diapers are so dang cute! Will I still like them this much when the kid starts actually pooing in them?

3boobykins 06-23-2004 09:20 PM

Anna--From what I hear Nikkys are actually really good covers. You might be in luck!

I use CPF's exclusively (saving as much money as possible is probably the main reason we cd, other than baby's health). I snappi or pin them and use nylon pull-on covers, either Bummis Whisper Pants, or Dappi. THey are both very inexpensive-bummis about 5 bucks a pair, the dappi's just 2 bucks a pair.BabiesRus has Dappi covers sold under the name Especially For Baby. They dry quickly, no velcro to snag anything in the wash, and seem more breathable to me than many covers. I snappi or pin with the bikini twist or roll the edges in, jelly-roll style, to hold in poops. I seldom get leaks on the covers--I'm really good at getting the legs nice and snug. I also use fleece liners that I cut out myself from microfleece on sale at the fabric store--they work great. I have a bunch of cheap washcloths for wipes.

I'm going to order some teeny-tiny newborn pull-ons from this time (didn't start dd in pull-ons until she was 11lbs.). They're supposedly for 5-8 lbs, so should fit a newborn well, I hope. I guess I have a chance of another early baby (dd was a 36 weeker), so I need to be ready for a smallish baby. I have a few nb proraps as well for backup.

As far as newborn dipes go, I'm going to order Newborn sized this time. They're in between preemie and the standard infant size, so should last longer and be easier to pin or snappi than preemie without the bulk of infant. I think the site that has them is Can't remember now, but I think they're only available on one site.

DD was in disposables for weeks until we figured out a system for her. I'm looking forward to cd'ing this one from the start.

CdnAloha 06-24-2004 10:41 AM

I am planning to CD from the start too, but I am wondering what to do about the meconium. I hear it stains so badly it destroys the diapers. One suggestion I heard was to use a piece of microfleece as a liner during that time. It sounds good, but right now I cannot find microfleece in the stores. They won't stock it again until September. Go figure.

Anyone else have ideas or suggestions? Oh, I've also heard oil on the bum helps prevent it from sticking.

4under6 06-24-2004 01:40 PM

I have heard the oppsosite about meconium and dipes....I have heard from several mamas on the Diapering boards that the meconium doesn't pose as much of a problem as newborn breastmilk poopy. Hmmmm....

cottonwood 06-25-2004 03:43 PM

I got my microfleece here:

sistermama 06-25-2004 03:43 PM

The newborn breastmilk poop comes out perfectly in the sun. For the meconium days, I'm going to use some of these liners. I was thinking that if I like them, they would also be good for out and about changings, to lessen the amount of poop I have to carry around with me!

mommy2three 06-25-2004 04:36 PM

Oh no, a diaper post!!! Don't get me started Ok, let me start by admitting that I'm a bit of a cloth diapering addict Ok, that said- I have a bunch of different kinds for my almost 2 year old but it's not nearly as fun anymore (toddler poop is kind of gross to clean compared to newborn poop!!!) So.... I have gone a bit crazy with the newborn diaper stash for baby Savannah! I wish I could show you all what we already have!!! They're so cute!

I got a couple kissaluv size 0, a bunch of Kind Hearted Women fitted ( I LOVE these and will be using these on her in the hospital after birth). I also bought a couple of poochies which are cute but kind of big. I have a bunch of other fitted and at least 2 dozen prefolds. I have plain covers like proraps and bummis wraps (I think I have about 15 size newborn and smalls) and I have about 6 beautiful wool soakers Let's see... some polar babies fleece wraps. I can't think of what else of the top of my head.

I never used cloth on a newborn because I didn't start using with my last babe until he was 4 months old and at that point he was already over 20 pounds so we had to buy larges. I have a good amount of newborn dipes but if she's a big baby like Sam (he was over 10 pounds at birth) then we're in trouble because she won't fit into most of them...

For all of you who have never used cloth- you'll love it!!! It's SO easy to wash and they're so cute on the baby! My son was alergic to the gel in the disposibles and had a constant rash until we switched to cloth full time. I even bring cloth on vacations with us because they're just so easy (although carrying a whole suitcase of just diapers annoys my hubby a little- LOL)

Good luck on your cloth diapering adventures!!!!!

Lazuli 06-29-2004 01:55 PM

Ack! I'm trying to figure this diapering thing out. My mom got us some prefolds, but they aren't Chinese prefolds and they're the 15-30lb. size. I'm trying to figure out what size covers to get, I haven't got a clue. I figure I really need to be getting things like this....*sigh* I feel so clueless!

mum2tori 06-30-2004 05:04 AM


Those sound like about "premium" size. Those are typically "mediums". Depending on the cut of the cover, you might be able to use smalls but most likely you'd need a medium cover.

Lazuli 06-30-2004 08:00 AM

For the moment I'm pretty much ignoring the diapers my mom got me. I'm trying to work out what size covers I need for a newborn since I've no clue how much Vaysh is going to weigh.

mum2tori 06-30-2004 03:43 PM

There have been a couple of threads recently over on Diapering about whether or not the is a "need" for newborn covers.

My personal take... yes. And I don't have particularily "small" babies either. Tori (DD) was 7.14 pounds and Jack (DS) was 8.4pounds. And both of them swam in "newborn" clothes. I had to buy 2-3 "preemie" outfits so that they didn't look so "lost" in their clothes. I didn't use cloth with Tori until she was almost 4 months old. Jack was using cloth from the afternoon we came home from the hospital on day 2 (luckily he passed all his meconium at the hospital!). Small covers would have been up to his armpits. :LOL

I have a handful of newborn (with the dip) Prorap covers. I also have 2 NB Bumpy wool covers. But I found it was hard to use them with prefolds because he was always leaking a little bit of poop onto them. : A PUL cover is easy to quickly clean up but wool takes at least half a day to dry. This time I'm not going to use prefolds as a main staple, I just really don't like them that much. Once in a while is fine, especially when the constant BF-poop explosions aren't almost every nursing. :LOL I just never get a snug fit with prefolds... but then I don't have the greatest patience either. I've gotten a bunch of fitteds, it's just one less stress and hassle for me.

Do you want to do the prefold route or were you interested in fitteds?

You want to have a minimum of 4-6 covers for the newborn stage. Some people say they are too expensive for the time that you use them. We used them for 6+ weeks. One advantage with newborn covers, since they are only used for a short time, they are usually in excellent condition and most people get a good resale value for them. Especially on the TP. So you came get some for a good price and resale them for almost the same price. Not too bad in my book.

Proraps are a good cheap standard (white and some solid colors). We used the "classic" and it worked with Jack and his chubby thighs. Some people like Bummi's (they have prints).

One of my favorite places to order bulk stuff (prefolds, fitteds, creams and covers) is either (Colleen is fabulous to work with) or (unfortunately Amanda is closed because of family issues). Check out both sites though to see a neat selecetion of what's out there.

I personally didn't like the Kissaluvs. I don't care for how the terry feels wet. Like a soggy wet towel. Yuck, I didn't find they were terribly absorbent either. Both my DC were avid nursers and super soakers so they were drenched within an hour.

JenInMpls 08-04-2004 06:18 PM

OK, you experienced CD mamas, I am too scared to go over to the diapering forum to ask this one so I'm posing it here.

The prefolds that we have are approximately 14" wide by 16" long. Does anyone know what size these are (infant?) and how long they will fit? They seem extremely small compared to some of the other prefolds I have seen. They are certainly their shrunken size, because they've gone through 3 children.



chumani 08-04-2004 07:13 PM

Jen- what color is the stitching on the end of the diapers? Most cpf will be the following measurements when fully shrunk

Preemie- 8x11 white stitching
Infant- 11.5x13.25 dark green
Premium- 13.5x20 blue
Toddler- 15x20 bright green

Sounds like you have a size between Infant and Premium. How long they will fit depends on how fast your baby grows. My girls fit infant size until around 4-6 months. My boys outgrew infant size before they were even 2 months old. The size you have will probably fit until about 6 months.

Have fun!

weebitty2 08-04-2004 08:02 PM

Cheap microfleece : hit up a resale/consignment/salvation army store .. and look for used old navy fleece pullovers They make AWESOME liners once they've been stripped and washed

And 14x16ish prefolds are probably Regulars, esp. if the edges are white.. And we're still using them on a 22lb 1y/o

(PS I know! I don't belong here! I'm not due til march but i found the thread in new posts )

JenInMpls 08-04-2004 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by chumani
Jen- what color is the stitching on the end of the diapers?
No color, they're all-white.

I guess they're regulars, but they don't look very big... I mean, when I look at diaper hyena the prefolds they use look so HUGE compared to the ones I have.

Jen the diapering newbie

mum2tori 08-05-2004 10:26 PM

The size sounds like a Regular and if it had white stitching, that's definitely a Regular.

Regulars are much shorter than Premiums. They are usually thinner too. They are 4x6x4 instead of the Premium 4x8x4 layers. A lot of people can use the Regulars for a long time, it's only when the absorbency becomes a 'issue' that people will change to Premiums. Some people with really heavily wetters don't use the Regulars at all because of that but that makes for a bulkier diaper on a little one.

A Regular prefold makes for a trim stuffer in a pocket too, just fold it 'sideways' four times.

sistermama 08-05-2004 10:57 PM

I, for the life of me, can't figure out what people do with the premium sized prefolds. They are huge! How do you use them? I'm thinking about having mine serged down to a more manageable size.

mum2tori 08-05-2004 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by sistermama
I, for the life of me, can't figure out what people do with the premium sized prefolds. They are huge! How do you use them? I'm thinking about having mine serged down to a more manageable size.
:LOL I KNOW!!! They still look HUGE on Jack the couple of times I've strapped him into one. :LOL I've never understood why they make them so much LONGER but they really aren't much wider. That seems to be the biggest problem with them with Jack... he was so ROUND that he really needed just a hair more in the width.

Karen of KoolSheepSoakers did that with some of her Premiums. The part that she cut off, she then laid down the center and serged it to the edge (kind of a 'doubler' that lays on the thicker part of the prefold). I think she posted pictures of it on her website... here you go.

sistermama 08-05-2004 11:41 PM

They are huge on my Jack and he is two!!! Thanks for the link. That is exactly what I need to do. I think I'll take mine to a place that does alterations though, and have them do it for me. I tcan't cost that much and it would be worth it not to have to be the one to sew through 12 layers of cloth for 3 dozen dipes!

msrog 08-06-2004 01:26 AM

OK, I can't even believe I have something to offer here, haha... But I did read in my initial prefold research that you can use them either long way or short way. So if the premiums are not wide enough, but way too long, it would make sense that some people choose to diaper them the other direction, so that the fat part goes across sideways instead of down the center vertically. I think I read it makes great padding right where it's needed...

sistermama 08-07-2004 09:18 PM

Have you all seen this great little product for making wipes solution? So cheap and easy!

JenInMpls 08-08-2004 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by sistermama
Have you all seen this great little product for making wipes solution? So cheap and easy!
Have you tried them and do you like them? I was going to use water, tea tree oil and lavender oil, since I have those around the house. I know Jo is going to want to use plain water (no scent).


msrog 08-08-2004 02:58 AM

I can't get over not using soap!!!

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