Hey Katie, that is awsome news and I'm glad Lucy is getting some spoiling time with family. Just keep taking it easy mama and you'll be at term in no time.
Piglet, welcome home! Make sure you don't overdo it either ok??
Ann and Mirthful, thank you for taking on the organizational stuff for us October Mamas. You guy rock!
Ameliabedelia, the hospital you will deliver at sounds awesome. Don't get down about loosing your homebirth at least your second option is a progressive place. You obviously know what you want so you're gonna get it no matter where you birth this babe!
QOTW - My biggest fear is fear! I worry about getting scared during labor and wimping out and asking to be transfered to the hospital for pain meds. I'm working on this with DH hwo is now super supportive after our prenatal class last week. I know I need to be surrounded by confidence, I know my midwife is completely confident in my ability and now I am beginning to feel that DH is also just as confident so I feel better already!
My other fears are preterm labor (I really want to have my baby at the birth centre) and baby turning back to a breech position. I'm not scared of a Csection only because I'm so confident that I won't need one.
Last night I had my first expereince with serious insomnia - it was awful!!! I lay in bed trying to sleep until 4am. I think DD could feel that I was awake beside her because she kept waking up and tossing and turning and asking for things. I was going crazy. I figure I must have slept a bit during all those hours but it certainly didn't feel like it. Needless to say I am exhausted today and have just done something I've never done before - let DD watch TWO movies in a row!! She thinks this is the best day ever and keeps telling me "merci Mommy" over and over again (thank you mommy). Oh well, she's happy and I'm not being grumpy with her so I think it is a reasonable trade off!
Gotta go, Nemo is over!!
Amy, haven't from you today, usually these days your our star poster...hope all is well! Hope that you didn't succeed in getting that baby into the optional birth position only to have her or him think it's time to come
Mirthfulmum...how was your appt?
Ashlee- there seems to be a club of stubborn babies around here, so your breech fits right in :LOL I'm in the same boat where I live...breech is a one way ticket to a c/s :
Oh and a question...for those of you that are pretty sure your baby is head down already...do you still feel thumps, jabs or the likes on your cervix? I'd like to think that Oakley has changed but I'm not sure...hopefully I'm feeling punches rather than kicks down there.
Amie - I know Harisson is head down and one of his favorite thigs to do while I'm out walking is punch me in the cervix . So yeah, even head down kids can get a good jab in now and again
Jillerina - You know some days you just have to get help from where ever you can get it. I've been feeling guilty lately too as Alias has been watching a lot more movies (we don't have TV) than usual. He usualy watches about 30-40 minutes in the morning when I'm showering and getting dressed and that's it. But lately I have been putting in a whole movie in the afternoon before Dh gets home. By 3 or 4 I am so pooped I just need something to distract him so I can get some rest. Especially when he skips his nap.
Tomorrow is a big day here. Alias starts his part-time day care. He'll be going Mon, Wed, Fri from 8 am to 12:30pm. I know he'll have a great time and meet lots of new friends (we thought he'd enjoy having some time and space to himself to just play and be a kid without someone telling he can't do that right now or to keep it down 'cause the baby's sleeping/nursing/fussing etc.) but I'm a bit nervous and sad that Alias has gotten to be a child, he's not a baby anymore. I know I'm going to sleep terribly tonight just being excited and nervous for him. Fortunately tomorrow is the firt day so parents are with their children for the entire time. And as the days progress the parents leave for longer stretches in the day until on day five the child spends the entire time at the daycare witout parents. It'll still be a bitter sweet morning tomorrow.
Maternity clothes - so sick of 'em. Especially now that I have to look halfway professional each day, but I just can't justify going to buy new clothes at this point. People will just have to deal with seeing me in the same five-ish outfits for the coming weeks!
Amelia, I mentioned this in an earlier post, but I'm having the baby at a really progressive hospital and I'm feeling really good about it, too. Nothing would be better than having the baby right here in our cozy house, but this it what will work for us this time around. The hosp. has jacuzzis, cloth diapers, full rooming-in (no nursery at all) and views of the mountains! Oh, and another cool thing is that if your baby needs to stay longer due to complications, for $10/day you stay with him/her with 3 meals a day until the baby is ready to go home. They never send moms home without their babies! I just love that! I know, I know, justifying my hospital birth...makes me feel better for being wimpy!
I love hearing about all your other children, seems like there's only a few of us first-timers here!
I got to hold a 2-day-old, homebirthed, baby today! OMG! I just can't wait!
QOTW: No overwhelming fears, to be honest. Probably because I'm blissfully unaware at this point. I'm determined to go drug-free, so I guess I'm a bit fearful of giving in, having it so close and accessible. All I really want is the baby to be delivered safely and gently as possible, whatever it takes.
Jillerina, sorry about the insomnia - I get it now and then and usually it's because my mind starts racing! Sometimes it helps me to get up and make a list of the things I need to do. It's like doing that gets it out of my head, and onto that paper, so my mind can get cleared and I can go back to sleep!
If anyone feels like sharing, I'm wondering what breathing/relaxing/pain relief techniques you all have used or are planning on using during labor and delivery. Anything that has worked especially well that you would recommend? We learned SO much at our birthing class, it was a great mix of all sorts of philosophies, but it's a bit hard to narrow it down to what we really want to remember to try. We'll definitely be using a birthing ball and water, some of our own versions of Lamaze-type breathing, and massage, and maybe singing! I'm not too into the visualization or "distraction" techniques. Thought it might be fun to share!
Heads-down vibes to all!
Mirthfulmum- Glad your appt. went well...I am getting so excited, when anyone of us has their baby it will feel like "our" baby, at least until ours arrives, don't you all think? Good to hear that I could be getting jabs even with head down. I hope that tomorrow goes really well, it sounds like a great place with the parents attending until the kids are used to it like that! I am sure that Alias will have a blast...but I do understand your feelings about this milestone
Jenny, what a good idea to share coping techniques. Mainly, I plan to turn to habits developed through my meditation practice, which is also deeply rooted in my spirituality. I hope to find strength and comfort in thinking of the generations and generations of women, back to the ancient times, of women who have trusted their bodies and birthed healthy babies. I hope to feel their spirits along side of me, along with the support of the Great Mother, Mother Earth. (sorry if this is too whoowhoo/out there for some of you guys ) I've borrowed a bit from here and there of different philosophies ... from Birthing from Within we've practiced Breath Awareness, Non-Focused Awareness, Centering (focusing on the center of the discomfort) and Edges (focusing on the "edges" of the discomfort). From Bradley, I'm having DH coach me to a "happy place", which I think will be my bathtub I can imagine vocalizations, almost "OHM"-ing, working well for me. I went through Ina May's Guide and wrote down all the techniques that she suggests. I plan to switch positions as I feel compelled to do so. Right now, I *love* sitting on my birth ball, and can imagine the rocking, bouncing sensation of it being a comfort in labor. Mostly, I want to allow myself to go to that inside place where I'm aware and present, but out of it enough not to focus on all the distractions that will probably be going on. Hrm, that's all I can think of for now. Curious to hear what everyone else is planning...
First off - QOTW: I don't think I have any fears, other than not getting to homebirth for some reason, like an early baby, but I don't think that will happen. I'm really looking forward to birthing. My only real concern is how Logan will react. I just hope he doesn't freak out or anything. I think most likely he'll be fine, though.
Amie- I feel cervix jabs from my head-down babe too. I was driving the other day and he hooked his feet under my ribs and used them to propel his head downward into my cervix..ouch. He kept doing it over and over. Needless to say he caused some bladder leakage. I also feel some tiny hand punches occasionally too.
Bluehalo- I like your take on coping with labor, that sounds wonderful.
Jillerina- sorry about the insomnia- isn't that weird how the kids pick up on it? If I'm next to Logan and my eyes pop open at 3am or whenever, inevitably I hear him start to toss and turn and pretty soon we're staring at each other wide awake. Then we usually get up and share a bowl of cereal together and go back to bed.
I can't wait to start reading birth stories! I was thinking we should have a seperate thread just for the birth stories here in the OCT forum, just so we can keep tabs on who's delivered - and have all the stories in one place. Can you tell I'm getting anxious?
Gotta go do some grillin' before it rains tomorrow.
Mom to two boys, 7 and 10. Expecting 3rd boy any day now with DH (his first).
As for baby....it popped it's little head back into my pelvis when I wasn't looking and is nice and posterior again. Little toot!!! We'll keep working on that.
For birth -- this time I'm trying out Hypnobabies...only on week 2 of 5 so not sure about all the specifics yet! Last time I just did what felt natural...I kind of zoned out during contractions -- I have a feeling I was self-hypnotizing to some extent without formal training.
Gotta run and get some sleep. I should have time to pop back in tomorrow, I Hope everyone actually gets to sleep tonight!!!!
Bluehalo- I didn't think of that earlier but I totally did the same thing, (thinking/connecting with woman from generations past) and of course that would be a coping mechanism ...you were much more eloquent in discribing it than I would have been though!
Court- I sort of have been thinking that each baby and story needs it's own thread...I keep trying to peek in on the Sept. club to see how many births they've had but with trying to read through all the congrats, etc. I get lost! I wish they would do what I am sure Piglet will due for us and just have a list at the top of the thread that tells us exactly how many babies have been born already :LOL
Nice belly pics Soogie and Amie . Funny, I haven't ben taking that many pictures of my belly this time around.
: Amy. I hope you and your family keep safe during the huricane. You really do sound so calm and together though, I'm sure you all will do just fine.
I was wondering why there have been fewer posts than usual here this week and then I realized that there are quite a few women moving this week. Hope all you moving mommas are doing well and that your trasition into your new homes goes smoothly!
Amy - there's another hurricane down there?! I don't know how you Floridians do it. The most exciting weather we ever get here is, um, rain. And if we evacuated every time it rained, we'd all be Californians. :LOL Oh wait, I guess we did have a big ice storm in January.... Which explains why there are pregnant women due in October everywhere I look. BTW, Courtney, thanks for the weather update. Didn't know it was gonna rain today - better get out there and pick my veggies.
Amie - This baby has been head-down for five weeks and I feel jabs down low all the time. Just last night I was almost asleep and it gave me a little punch that made me gasp and woke up DH. Poor guy, every little sound I make he pops up in bed thinking I'm in labor. :LOL
This baby also has the hardest little bottom I've ever felt. Sometimes it sticks right out on my left side and wiggles back and forth. Just like that! I don't know where he's got his feet to get that kind of leverage...
Back to the QOTW again: Last night in Birthing from Within class we talked about interventions. We're the only ones in our class planning a homebirth, so I usually just kinda sit through these discussions and think, "Ha. I don't have to worry about any of this!"
But last night the instructor had us draw pictures of 1)Ourselves being powerful in our ideal birth (piece of cake), 2)Being powerful with a small intervention (ARM or IV etc), 3)Being powerful with an epidural, and 4)Being powerful through a C-section. Yikes! My last three pictures were of me lying flat on my back looking grumpy and not at all powerful! So I guess I realized that I am really just not OK with any interventions, and if I end up in the hospital I'm going to be super disappointed and depressed.
So I guess that's my little project to deal with. How to be at peace if things don't go as planned, without it (intervention) becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy... any suggestions?
Hey is anyone doing a belly cast? It sounds like so much fun, but DH doesn't want to do one. His reasoning is that it will be so meaningful and we'll be so attached to it that we'll never be able to get rid of it. ie he doesn't want any more junk in the basement. I think it could come in handy. At parties we could put it face down on the table and use it to serve chips and dip! :LOL Or the kids could use it to sort Legos or something... hmm.. So has anyone done one before? Do you display it, or is it on a shelf in the basement?
Good luck to everyone moving this week! Yikes. I can barely move from sofa to fridge these days.
About the belly cast, I too am throwing around the idea of making one, but also fear that it will become clutter. I think it would be really fun though
Finally getting caught up after our vacation. We had a little problem with the computer the last few days but I think it's fine now!
Camping was great! Sleep was very uncomfortable though. I woke up a dozen times each night and everytime I opened my eyes I just wished that the next time I opened them that it would be light and I could get up. Oh, my aching hips! I managed several smaller hikes, just a couple of km's each and I even attempted to work my way down a rocky cliff, but once I was halfway down I realized I'd never be able to climb back up again if I went all the way. I pictured some sort of rescue team hauling me up with ropes and harnesses, lol. Don't worry, it wasn't a dangerous climb. There were elderly people making their way down and even a dad with a tiny infant in a snugli type carrier. I really wanted to see the caves at the bottom. Oh well, maybe another time. If you ever get a chance, I really recommend the Bruce Penninsula National Park in Ontario. Georgian Bay is very rugged and beautiful up there!
We made it back okay and it's just so nice being back in a normal bed, but I am waking up more frequently with aches and discomforts. On the second night back, a dog or coyote killed one of my sheep. It was so sad, poor thing. It had been getting out of some hole in the fence and so it was out of the saftey of the pasture (we have a guard llama, no kidding, and he keeps the coyotes and dogs away).
QOTW - I feel really confident that this birth is going to be straight forward and uncomplicated, but I do worry about scaring my kids. They just never see me in pain and I wonder what they will think about that? I've explained that I might make noises and not be able to talk to them for awhile and I've explained how it is a different pain then breaking a bone or getting a cut and that it is possible for me to be in pain AND still be excited and happy about the birth, but I still worry a little about them. They really want to be there though.
To the moving mamas, wow when I hear about your moving experiences, it makes me so glad that I moved in January. It would be so tough to settle into a new place at this late date!!! Good luck to you all!!!
LOL, I've been peeking in on September's due date club too. It's so exciting to think that we will be where they are in just a few more weeks. They have several babies born and it is only Sept 1st !!!!!!
Hope everyone has a great day.
Hi everyone! I miss you guys so much! Our Internet is supposed to get hooked up today so hopefully I'll be able to read/post more soon.
I'm totally exhausted. So is DH. He has pretty much single-handedly moved our stuff, taken at least a dozen trips back and forth between Mum's and our new place. We spent the night there last night and all of us were asleep by 7:30! It's frustrating to see so much to do (the place looks like a hurricane aftermath right now) and have SO little energy to do it. I feel totally useless.
Had my first appt with my family doc yesterday. She is awesome (thank you, Mirthfulmum for the referral!). Baby is doing well and my BP is surprisingly low given the stress of this last week.
My biggest fear is baby coming early. We are SO not ready for him yet. I need at least a couple of weeks or more to get everything unpacked, washed, and sorted. I am curious as to whether I will go into labour before my scheduled date (not set yet, but will be soon). I have never experienced labour and I'm curious/scared at the same time. Funny to hear all your fears of c-sections (which, of course, I understand). My deep dark fear is going into labour and having it happen so fast that I end up birthing vaginally. I'm so not prepared for that!
I hope to be back at work as "list keeper" of our due date club soon. I think a birth story thread is a great idea, and we can save the congrats for our weekly threads. I'd love a place to read all the birth stories as they happen.
Okay, once again I gotta run. Hugs to all of you, and I promise I'll catch up with y'all soon!!
Homeschooling, Homesteading Mama to DD ('02) and DS ('04)
Piglet-glad things are getting settled and you like your new dr-that is so important!
Mirthful-I keep wishing I could get just a couple of wonderful nights of sleep since I know the next 6 mos at least will be sleepless! And I really dread the zombie like sleeplessness of the first 6 weeks when I nurse every 2-3 hrs around the clock-I better stop now or everyone will get depressed! Happy thoughts!
Kathy-so glad your trip went well, sounds like fun. We keep saying we're going to try to get a family hike in up in the Cascades in the next few weeks but I'm thinking I won't be getting too far. I can't imagine sleeping in a tent at this point-you brave woman!
I got a preg mama yoga tape this week-have I used it yet-NO-should I-oh YES! Somebody send me motivation!
I think my biggest fear, as has been mentioned before, is that I'll "loose it" and start begging for drugs. Or somehow I'll end up w/ a c-sect, or some other yucky intervention. Of course, a healthy babe (and healthy mama) are really my bottom line, but it would be great to also have the intervention-free birth I've been envisioning. I've been doing Hypnobabies, but am now several weeks behind schedule. Hope what I've done so far helps!
Things around here have been pretty stressful, w/ the travelling and the funeral and the family dynamics and the horomones and all that, and I've been feeling like the world's worst (most impatient and snappy) mother lately. : And Hannah has been living up to that horrible stereotype of the "terrible twos", so we've been quite the joyful pair. I feel so bad for DH, caught in the midst of all this emotional turmoil. I see from some of the other posts that many of you are right in the same place. Big hugs to everyone!
I posted a silly pic on the mamas yahoo group, and a couple of pics of the hats (strawberry and pumpkin) my mom has finished.
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Oops, toddler invasion...must go....
Kraftykathy- you go wilderness mama! Camping sounds so nice right now! Just to get out and away!
bluehalo- I loved your post about coping with birth pain. Very nice!
Piglet- I'm so glad you like your fp!
Been watching a ton of my mw's births! I love her more and more each time!
Not much to post on a personal level, insomniac, pee alot, baby jabs me in my pelvic floor, ya' know, the basics.
We start our "Happy School" tomorow. It's a co-op homeschool type pre-school on Thurs. for 2 hours. Every other thur. is a field trip. Should be fun. ONly 4 kids (and moms) and of course younger siblings!
Kathy- glad you survived camping! It sounded beautiful. You're such a trooper - all of you camping mamas are. I just don't think I could take it right now. If my big plush bed is uncomfortable, I can't imagine trying to sleep in a tent.
Karin- Hugs to you. Sorry you've had such a rough time lately, at least all the traveling is behind you. I've been having a rough time with my toddler too, on and off. We have good days and bad days. But he's totally been doing the cliche "terrible two's" crap, and it's almost amusing, but not quite. It's hard to be perfect patient mommy with hormones raging, etc.
I can't believe the September mommies are already having babies! I'm getting way too excited - which is a good way to make time stand still.
We're going out to look at a Lazy Boy rocker recliner tonight! I'm so excited. This is my one major thing that I want for this baby...and for me. I keep telling Logan that I'll have a chair big enough to rock both of my "babies" in. He's been saying he wants to be like a baby lately. He pulled out a gallon of milk last night and told me to put it in a bottle for him. Funny thing is he never really took a bottle as a baby. I just had a couple of those little ones that I pumped into in the beginning. He cuddled up in my arms and sucked down a whole bottle. He's so silly.
Good luck to all you moving and just moved mamas! I feel for you I know I'm totally nesting right now, so it must be hard for those of you living with all the boxes.
Mom to two boys, 7 and 10. Expecting 3rd boy any day now with DH (his first).
I've read everyone's posts just can't comment at the moment, gotta go be with DS and get him to bed. Talk to you all later!!!!
We are totally moved into our shoebox apartment. My dd is having a really hard time with it. She keeps saying she wants to go home, and she wants Rowan - our doggy. I had to drop Rowan off at another home today, and it was soooooo hard. She wanted to come with me, and I had to hold her back and shut the door when I left. I felt like I totally betrayed her. I just hope she is taken care of well.
AUGH! I am totally nesting and I can't find a thing! Like, I can't even find silverware or laundry detergent. My house is a freakin wreck! You can barely walk in it. I just hope the baby stays in for at least 3 more weeks. Piglet, my dh moved everything himself, too. Poor guy is sooooo beat! And now he has to look forward to doing most of the unpacking in between work and helping me with dd.
The good news is, my contractions have really slowed down. I think it was largely stress-related. Now I am only having about 5-10/day, as opposed to 5-10 an hour. I wonder if all that contracting changed my cervix at all?
Well, I don't have internet access at my house yet, but I hope you are all doing well and your babies are happy and getting fat and healthy!!! Thanks to Ann and mirthfulmum for organizing the October Mamas stuff! I wanna particpate in both, for sure!
Today has been a big day for Alias. His first day of day care was a smash hit. He had a fantastic time and the teachers there are wonderful. It's a very small program with only 9 children and 2 teachers, and all the kids are between two and three. So, having the outgoing and social boy that I have this program is just what he needs. He just took to it right away and spent the whole time plaing and reading and exploring. Everyone there was so surprised that today was his first daycare experience. He was relaxed and at ease. It is such a relief to know that we have done right by him.
But not only that, after seeing a couple of kids use the toilet at daycare today Alias announced that he didn't want to wear his diaper anymore either and has been diaper-less, well completely naked actually, since 3 this afternoon. And he hasn't had a single accident! A couple of false alarms but I have not had to clean up poop or pee once off the floor this entire afternoon/evening. Could toilet training really be this easy?
Katie- s I wish that there was a way to make it all better for you right now...you know the saying "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" well you are gonna be one strong mama after all this! I hope that your apt. situation will be very temperary, but I also hope that you can find happiness while you are in it, maybe when you are surronded by your things instead of boxes. Make sure your diaper stash is one of the first boxes opened, you can't look at your cute little NB diapes without smiling, right And s for Lucy...it must be hard to explain all this change to her and especially the dog.
Thanks everyone who has been telling me that it is possible to feel jabs when baby is head down....I don't know for sure but I am really starting to feel that Oakley is...the movements I am feeling are different than before and I do feel like something is down, whereas before there was definately nothing engaged at all, I just hope it's the right part, :LOL.
Mom to two boys, 7 and 10. Expecting 3rd boy any day now with DH (his first).
s to Amy. I can't believe all the stress you must be under. One of my qualifications for picking a place to live is that is can't be in a part of the country where natural disasters are a common occurance (hurricanes, tornodos or earthquakes). I can't imagine that.
s to Katie, I am sorry you don't like your apartment. I am sure it will be better once you get things settled and unpacked.
Pig - glad you are setting in okay.
mirthfulmom: that is great on Alias being potty training. I am thinking that maybe I should do something like that with dd just to get her thinking about it (not really daycare, but take her around other kids more and have them watch). She seems to be really observant of what other kids do and is a huge copycat LOL (like at the park, when she sees other kids climb up the slide she wants to etc.) A little peer pressure might help in her case.
Well, I met with a new OB yesterday. He was alright. Probably about as good as most OB's go. Not terribly interventive but not terribly natural either. They only induce for a medical reason, they only do episiotomy's if really necessary, that type of thing. He was cool with all of my birth plan, we can have dd present for the birth if we want, it is just up to us and how she handles it.
Although he did tell me that Greta is defintiely breech. I am only 31 1/2 weeks so he said don't worry about it until 36-37 weeks, still lots of time to turn, but of course I am still worried. LOL. She definitely isn't engaged or anything, I think she is still pretty high up, so I don't think it will be hard for her to turn. I just hope she doens't decided that the breech position is the more comfortable and stay in it (she was breech at my ultrasound at 20 weeks as well). I think she did turn around a few times in between and it is probably just chance she was breech yesterday, but I can't really tell.
Is anyone else having a doula? I think I am. There are a couple in our area who are still in training and will work for free or very reduced prices, so I think will meet with them and see how that goes. I don't want to pay the $500 for a doula, but if I can get one for free (even if they aren't all that experienced), I think it will help a lot.
To everyone that is having moving/hurricane/yucky apartment problems, I am thinking about you and trust that everything will work out how it's suppose to... and I totally respect all of you for dealing with such stress right now.
Was anyone aware of when their baby turned head down? While I was sleeping last night dh was holding a flashlight against my skin 'way down there' and asking baby to please turn head down (After initially waking up grumpy and confused about having a flashlight being shown at my crotch, it was the cutest thing he's ever done!) Anyway, I went back to sleep lol and dh kept at it. In my sleep I remember this crazy tickling in my tummy and telling dh to quit it . He said it wasn't him, it was the baby moving unlike anything he's seen yet, and is convinced baby turned! This morning I can't really tell a difference (no kicks yet). Just keeping my fingers crossed and wondering about all of your experiences.
Ok, off to work. (only 3 days left! woohoo!)
Gotta run....I'm heading out...to KEY WEST so it might not be so bad...probably won't be able to check back in til Sun or Mon. Have a good moving, baby-turning, no-insomnia, no contractions weekend!!!!
I wonder how our twin mommas are doing? I think that Gmvh is now 34 weeks and in twin pregnancy that must be almost considered term, isn't it?!! Oh so exciting!! I am sure we'd all love to hear an update if you are lurking
Oh and Ashlee, that's so cool! It certainly sounds like your baby could have turned. I don't seem to be able to identify movements in that way, maybe Oakley does it while sleeping...but then again, Ember must have too in that case :LOL Just call me clueless when it comes to figuring out baby's position too!
So another nesting urge seems to be kicking in...it always seems to come in the form of reorganization (of closets or the fridge :LOL)