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#1 of 158 Old 01-30-2005, 07:27 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Ok so the list is terribly out of date. And I have no clue how to do cute colors. But it's a new thread for a new week.

Jessi - milk imbalance - foremilk/hindmilk - baby is getting too much foremilk (like skim) and not enough hindmilk (cream) and so you get green frothy poo instead of yellow pea soup poo.

I thought this was going on, but I'm beginning to suspect maybe a food intolerance to something I'm eating instead, because we've been nursing one side only for 2 days now and no change, and now she's got slimy poo too - it's mucousy, which from what I'm reading means something is bothering her intestines enough to make them make extra mucous, which points more towards an allergy than a milk imbalance. Argh I'm so frustrated!

Any mamas got help for me? Or any ideas? Anything? I guess I'm going to cut out dairy, but gosh that's going to be tough. Milk is in everything! Here's the symptoms of the day: green frothy slimy mucousy poo and lots and lots of gas. Since birth she's been ECing her poo right before/after she pees, and she's not doing this now. She'll pee for us fine, and the poo seems kind of random, sometimes mid nursing, sometimes 10 min. after she pees, etc.

Otherwise, we're doing about the same here, we stayed in bed all night again last night, which is a huge difference to having to walk or rock her or nurse in the rocker in the middle of the night.

Andy, do you take Orin on walks with you? How do you get everyone all bundled up enough to stay warm in this cold? I'd really like to go around the block (or at least 1/2 way down our street and back, it's a mile around our block), but I don't know how to wrap us all up.

Dh has baby in the basement with him, he's working on some mad scientist project with his Mac and his new dvd burner. I think he wants to send dvd picture announcements out to everyone, which I think is a bad idea. They will all look at it once and then it will get stuck on the back shelf and never seen again, I think the grandparents/great grandparents might like it, but not everyone else.

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Hmm, don't know what to say Lisa. I didn't get what was going on, and have never heard of that, but admittedly my baby knowledge stops at around brith. But that if you elimate milk, know that it takes 10 days for it to get out of your milk so give yourself some time before you make conclusions about whether it helped or not....Heidi
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Lisa- I'll look it up for you when I can move off the rocker. Green frothy poops that are just there for a couple of days is ok in my experience, but I will check on it for sure..... how long has it been going on? Is Lauren esp fussy or anything? Do you or dh have a family history of food allergies? MOST of the time, it's not a food you eat that is causing distress- esp if you aren't allergic to stuff.... so often nursing moms start cutting tons of stuff out of their diets and it has nothing to do with the issue- just a baby with an immature GI tract.... and then the mom is starving AND haveing to make lotsa milk.
BUT, if there is a food issue, dairy is usually the culprit....

I will get back with more info a little later- there's no way i could actually remember anything at this point!!!
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Jessi, I couldn't pump with ds and I was a milk factory. Pumping can be hard. I could get milk out but I could never let down it took me hours to get 4 oz. I only had a hand pump so that may have been part of the problem. I have an eletric pump this time so we'll see if that works any better.

I think my pregnant is starting to effect my mind. I was laying in bed with dh and thinking how cute little frilly dresses, with matching panties and lacey socks and baby hair clips would be. Honestly I don't normally think like that.

I think this babe is posterior also. I've been feeling kicks and punches in the front. I don't want to ask becuase I don't want to worry about it. I can be a big fan of the ostrich syndrom :

I've been all crampy most of the day, again! This is really getting old. I think I've been spending a hour a day in the tub because I'm crampy and my back hurts.

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Malama, thanks. No allergies in our familiy, so at least I have that going for me. We've literally gone through almost all the diapers we have this afternoon, and I even sat with her on a bowl for a while because the poo was coming so frequently. Same liquid/solid as regular poo, so I don't think it's the runs, but something is up. She also just let out a big bad vomit which seemed to upset her, she screamed after for a minute. The only other vomit moment was on Friday morning, and that one didn't seem to bother her at all. She's been fussy too, but nothing a boob won't fix.

I'm pretty sure it's not a milk imbalance, as I've been putting her back on the same side when she usually switches sides, and she's still managing to get milk.

Dh just washed her off while I changed clothes, and I've resigned myself to the bed. I'm really tired after all of this, and she's acting like she's starving and never seen food in her life.

This is just no fun!

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Lisa - As a recent firsat time mom (admittedly it was 21 months ago), I feel for you. DS had the green runny poops for a while, but his was foremilk/hindmilk imbalance. He also would nurse all the time in the beginning. I truly believe he was regulating my milk and once he had his growth spurts and adjusted to the amount all was good. It took a bit for it to settle down, though. He also was gassy. I ended up offering the same breast to him. He would nurse on the one side, sleep, nurse a little more off that side and then we would switch. I still made sure to switch him.

You may also want to try talking to the local La Leche League leader. I think Karen mentioned that she is one here. I found them to be a HUGE help in the beginning. My leader helped me with the imbalance. DH & I have no food allergies, so we figured the nursing was a problem. One thing she did suggest was using one side for four hours and then switching. She cautioned about never offering the other side (I think someone here mentioned that too)

Just remember this time is short. She will get the hang of things soon and you will too. We didn't EC (I thought it seemed like too much work : ), but it will come too. You are doing a great job. No one expects you to do anything around the house or out and about for awhile. With my first a shower was a huge accomplishment. Also, PLEASE sleep when she sleeps. Everyone tells you this, and I thought they were nuts. However it truly is a way to preserve your sanity. I ended up napping with ds the majority of the time, and this helped me cope with thee trials, tribulations and smiles of a newborn.

HTH at least a little. We are here for you.

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Oh, and I mopped the floors for the SECOND time this week. I think it is a record. It has been rainy here and with our dog (St Bernard) they were gross already.

I forgot to mention that yesterday I had a huge sewing accomplishment day. I finished a pouch, a mei tei similar carrier, rice bags and a couple other projects. It was only possible because I went to my parents, and my mom watched ds. Woo Hoo!!! I feel so good about everything.

AZ - I don't blame you on not wanting to find out about the posterior thing. It is all I think about now . It is nice to know, so I can make sure my posture is correct and adjust things. However last night between ds crowding me out of the bed, getting up to potty and fretting about baby's position, I don't think I got much sleep. Luckily ds & I slept today for a 2 hours nap. I feel SOOOooooo much better. Now I am not worrying about it. I know everything will be fine.

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Oh my, Lisa. I hated all that baby stress. My own .02 is that if it's mucosey w/out the runs, that she is reacting to something - spice?, sensitivity rather than allergy. Usually allergy is accompanied by the runs, skin rash, fever, etc. It really does make people SICK. The mucous thing is a reaction, but not an illness. Go plain for a day or so, and reduce wheat (also often a culprit for this type of sensitivity, along with dairy). Rice, corn, citrus and nuts are generally allergies, so I wouldn't sweat those for now. Once you are SURE it's food, try one (wheat/dairy) and give it 2 wks. But as Karen said, don't overstress your own body until you are sure. Also you can get tested (it's a blood draw but now a biggee) for allergies at a good naturapath/ or homeopath/ or allergists. Good luck!

Jessi - I couldn't pump. Man, it stunk. I was wanting to so bad, but all I got were geology experiments. Bummer. I'm ok this time, but I also don't have to work, so I feel quite blessed. If I did, maybe I'd figure out a way to get the damned milk outta there in spite of breast reluctance (that's what I called it).

Ok, sorry so short, but must walk dog and get back before dh has to pee - he's got the baby on his chest!

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Oh, wanted to add for Lisa that I put Ori into his outside suit (fleece300) and inside my peacoat. We just go for it. It's not too bad right now, up in the 20's. He's not exactly hot when we get back, but not cold either. And then we snuggle up together and nurse (for a change!) and it's lovely. It took me longer with #1, and we didn't live in such a cold place! If you really want to get out, just layer Lauren up and then put her under your own stuff and then layer yourself up and then just GO! If you're not out long, they are fine. Lol! andy

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Lisa. My best advice is to call LLL or the LC and the hospital. Its so hard to know over cyberspace and they are much more qualified to answer...You'll probably get better advice talking to someone in person. That being said, it does sound like one of the two, although it can be tricky to tell the difference. If it is a milk imbalance, due to oversupply, you can usually tell because they will gasp, culp, choke, or make a clicking noise while nursing. I've also found www.kellymom.com to be an awesome resource for all my breastfeeding questions.

Hang in there mama. I know its hard, but it won't last forever. Violet was having the same issue the past couple days. I think it is a combination of a terrible oversupply, 3 week growth spurt and a peanut or chocolate aversion. I haven't eaten either of the two for a couple days and she's suddenly fine.

What else? Oh, did the yearly go through all bills and organize a payment schedule today. That was no fun. But its not so bad and I think we'll have everything payed off by May, without spending the tax return. Whoo-hoo. I'm sure there will be other bills by then to eat it up. There's always something.

Ok, gotta run. Cooking dh a late birthday cake. Alohas!
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Oh, and I mopped the floors for the SECOND time this week. I think it is a record. It has been rainy here and with our dog (St Bernard) they were gross already.
LOL your house sounds like mine, except it was dh who got my nice clean floor yucky. I was so proud of my self with my nice clean floors, I had even scrubbed the gross spots, and dh had to tromp all through the house in his yucky boots. A double whammy first becuase I never wear shoes inside so me feet got all wet and cold and then of course becuase of the mess. I washed the floors yesterday and they don't look any better, I think becuase of all the salt on his boots. I think it wore away some of the finish of the floor.. Oh and both dogs pooped, nice mushy hard to clean up poops, on the floor last night

I got up at 4 am this morning and couldn't get back to sleep. I took the "big dog" (the bichon) out for a walk. She was very happy. I took her on a nice long walk, we were gone close to 40 minutes, which, sadly is long for both of us. I can in and dh had taken the puppy up stairs to sleep. He told me he thought I would be a "whirlwind" when I got back. Yeah cause we all know how wild and full of energy very pregnant women are Yeah I put on the news and layed on the futon. I'm surprised the neighbors didn't call the cops with all the noise.

I'm thinking of trying some sewing today. I haven't sewn much since ds was small. I was looking at the baby bedding that we have last night and we only had 2 receiving blankets : Oops I did find one that I had made for ds after that, so I am going to use that as a pattern and hope that I have some suitable fabric.

Proudmom, was the mei tai hard to make? I was actually looking at them last night (the longer I'm home without a baby the more stuff I want to buy for the baby) and I was a link to sewing instructions and thought hmmmm. Also where did you get the directions?

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Oooh you guys are so sweet and helpful. Kellymom.com is my favorite bf site, I spent lots of time there yesterday reading. The frequency of poo seems to be back to normal (she's ecing again on her poo/eat/sleep cycle) so that's really made me happy. We're going to go see the LC at the bf group this afternoon and ask questions, and there's a different LC at the Weds. group who we can ask for more opinions. I just wish the baby books told you that anything goes in the first 3 weeks and that it'll all work itself out, seems every "strange" problem or question I have, I ask it here, and you guys remind me how totally normal it is.

I was just tooooo tired in the middle of the night to roll over to feed her again, so we ended up doing a 5 hr. stretch on one side and I pumped off the other side a little for comfort this morning. The mucous seems to have been a short lived thing, she's still green and frothy, but again, you guys keep telling me how normal things like this are, and so we're going to see.

Az (I think) bummer on the floors, it's getting to the point here that I need to pick something out for our kitchen. I really want to put cork in (anyone have cork floors???) but dh is not keen on that one!

Andy, thanks for the bundle up tips, it's supposed to get warmer here this week (above 30 for a few days!) so we might try going out. She has tons of fleece and my ski parka fit over my pg belly, so it should fit over her in a sling I think!

Dh is officially back to work this week, although he's managing to work from home with the exception of a few afternoon meetings and an all day thing on Friday. So he's able to psuedo help me if I get into one of those moments like yesterday where there was puke and poo and everything else everywhere and I just needed an extra pair of hands. Otherwise, Lauren and I are on our own, and I'm sort of looking forward to it.

Going to read my mail and grab a shower, I'm pretty sure I get an entire hour out of the last feed in bed,

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Good morning all. Hope everyone had a great weekend. We did pretty good here. Will was kind enough to sleep 4 hours at a session. Thanks for all the feedback on the tummy sleeping issue. He is sleeping so much better now that I am trusting my instincts and letting him do that. He doesn't co-sleep with us in our bed, but he does sleep in a bassinet right next to me so that I can just pull him in to nurse, so I guess it is the next best thing. He is getting so strong now and can hold his head up and turn it from side to side.

He had a bit of an interesting day, yesterday. My parents have friends in town and they wanted to go to IKEA, Costco Home and Costco and they wanted us to come along. Not a problem, but it made his napping a bit more challenging. Not to mention that they are the loudest people on the planet. He did pretty well until 1pm but then was pretty much up for the rest of the night until he crashed at around 8:30 or so. He slept pretty hard, but getting him down after that amount of stimulation was pretty interesting.

Mamamaya - Happy 1 month birthday to Violet! I can't beleive that an entire month has gone by. Will is going to be 1 month old tomorrow!


Hope everyone has a good day.

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Oh WOW - a MONTH! Happy One month to Violet from us, too! And in case I forget (which is likely, unfortunately) happy 1 month to Will! Baby Torin is already over a month old! Wow...

Lisa - good luck with the walk. It's nice and warm and sunny here too, so hopefully we can squeeze in a walk as well. Little burito boy is snoozing in a pooey diape., which means changing RIGHT when he wakes up which means feeding for a while after (oh my gosh is diaper changing ever a TRAUMA around here! I think I may invest in a little heating pad...), which means we won't leave for errands before 12pm, which means we won't be back before 2pm, which means we won't get a long walk in because dd gets off the bus at 3:15. 4pm dentist, and the day is DONE! Sheesh! At least I got some sheets changed and laundry done.

Az - I totally feel for you on the floor issue, which is a NEVER ending source of anxst over here. Also on the late night issue because my last week or two of pregnancy I was up at all hrs. and had real trouble getting sleep. Luckily Ori is a great sleeper(8-11 and 12 - 5 last night!), so I am not feeling too wiped out.

Nicole - I remember those days with family and friends with dd - I am not so prone to them now (it gets easier to say no thanks!). The over stim. is tough to battle. It sounds like you handled it really well! Yeah mama!!!

Ann - I am VERY impressed w/ your bill handling. I just keep paying and hoping there's enough in the acc't. Usually there is, because we live pretty much cheque to cheque, and so we never have any extra to spend, so we don't spend any extra! But taxes are due today (property) and mtg. tomorrow, which is sort of a killer. Did a little scrimp and save all month to manage this but I think we're golden. I HATE finances, and it's just so unfair that I'm the one who has to deal...I hate doing toilets and windows too, and somehow those became mine too... :-(

I am still waiting for info on the pouch/sling/carrier thing. Anyone??? What is a pouch? And Lisa, WHAT IS EC??? It sounds like a poopey-holding session over a bowl/sink/toilet that my friend Farah did with her first (but not second, too much by then I think). He and our dd were out of diapers at the same time, so I don't think it changed the am't of time in diapes., but he was never afraid of having his poops go down the drain, which I think some kids are. Am I thinking the right thing here?

Jessi - ARE YOU WORKING??? You are a silly bee thinking you are going to get any work done reading this site, but we're glad you are - have a GREAT afternoon everyone! andy

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Poor Andy everyone just ignored your question. A pouch is a non-adjustable sling. Some examples:
HotSling photos
Kangaroo Korner fleece pouch

and a bonus this is a mei tai
Mei Tai

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Lisa, are these DVDs that will play in the DVD player, or do they have to be played on the computer? My friend made a spiffy CD with the ultrasound and pictures to announce the gender back when they found out. Very few of the people they sent it to could figure out how to play it. They stuck it in the DVD player, or their computer was too old, or they were too old. I would not recommend sending pictures this way except to computer-geek friends. Especially if it requires a DVD-ROM; not everyone has those.

So sorry for your feeding and poo troubles! Breastfeeding sounds hard.

Az, crampiness sounds ugly. On one hand it's annoying to have no signs of impending labor here, but reading your posts, I realize it would be much more annoying to have the signs and still no active labor.
And how frustrating on the floors! DH should clean up his own salty boot mess. Yuck.

Proudmom, wow, sounds like you're getting some good nesting done.

Geology experiments? Is that the crusty stuff that appears on the nipples, or rock-hard boobs?

Happy month-day to Will and Violet.

For those of us still pregnant, it's time to get ready for our February babes. But this is still the best birth club.
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Az, crampiness sounds ugly. On one hand it's annoying to have no signs of impending labor here, but reading your posts, I realize it would be much more annoying to have the signs and still no active labor.
And how frustrating on the floors! DH should clean up his own salty boot mess. Yuck.
Jessi, I think that crampyness is due more to bad diet than impending labor. I've been loving donuts, icecream and cheese this past week. Yesterday, I ate 3 donuts, 1/3 of a 1/2 gallon of icecream and au gratin potatoes :

However it is annoying to have other signs of impending labor for what 3 weeks now, and no baby yet. I think that peoples comments are way worse than all those nights of contractions that went no where. I don't even want to leave my house anymore. We went to dh's parents house for lunch yesterday and one of dh's sister asked or comment at least 5 times in the 1 1/2 we were there!

DH won't sweep or wash the floors, but he does 95% of all the other household chores and mostly always has so I can't complain. I did ask him to try to take his boots off asap and he did when he came home yesterday but we'll see how long that lasts.

Well I went through all my fabric and weeded out a bunch that I've been vcarry around for years, stuff that I know I'll never use or is just to small to be of any use to me. And I cut out one receiving blanket. I was so sad becuase I had a nice soft pink I wanted for one side but it was way too small. Oh well, so instead we'll have an aqua green velor backed with a white cotton.

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Lisa- I'm so glad things are resolving. I was trying all evening to get back to the puter, but I had FUSSY baby. i couldn't figure out what was wrong- we did have a lot of visitors- which was nice for me, but I thought maybe he was overstimulated. THen he really wanted to sleep, but NOTHING was working and he'd fall asleep for 5 minutes and then scream- obviously he was uncomfortable and dh couldn't help because he had to get up at 5 this am and work on the other sideof the island..... anyhow, I finally took him on a walk outside last night and we ended up at the swingset swiinging for 20 minutes to sleep. The bed time was fine though. i think we were both gassy (mine was painful).
So yeah, Lisa, I was gonna say that it's probably temporary. Babies have all kinds of stuff they go through in the beginning especially. My guess is you probably ate something alittle too spicy or SOMETHING for her to deal with.
BUT, like someone else said, It's good to have someone close to you to ask questions from. I would definitely recommend finding your local LLL Leader (can find at www.lalecheleague.org) and touching base. It's amazing how alone you feel until you meet with other bf moms and find that they have many of the same worries/ concerns/ experiences.

Nicole-= your posts remind me that there can be life outside the house with a baby. we've not left yet, and though I'm slighly antsy, I'm not ansty enough to brave the world with clothes on and leaky boobs and all. I DO have to go and fix that darn filling though this week.

Andy- EC is elimination communication- yeah, the no-diape , go over a bowl. very popular here

geesh--- 45 minutes later and the post isn't done. Had to change a diaper, put diapers in the wash and now I have to pull the sheets off the bed AGAIN! I have this pad under where we sleep and I think it's making me and Luka esp sweaty- gotta get/ make something different.... was gonna say more but I'll just send.....

Az and Jessi and Heidi and Heather (hope I didn't forget anyone)- hang in there!!!! Much love you you all!
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Oh my Andy, just reading your posts makes me tired!

Jessi, we have a dvd burner that will make slide shows on the dvd player. I still think it's a bad idea either way, and I want to do something else.

Wowzers, Lauren is 2 weeks old tomorrow, funny to think I expected her to be a month old now too. And yaay, our poop is getting yellower again, still fizzy and caustic, but yellower. Hopefully it will stay that way. We went to the bf group today and talked to the LC for a bit, she said it's likely just us getting used to each other, and Lauren will balance out my milk on her own, but that it should happen soon, within a week, and if not, it might be a food intolerance. In the meantime, I'm watching the spicy stuff, and not drinking tons of milk, although I'm still having cereal and dairy products to eat, I picked up some rice milk on the way home from bf group today so I can chug a glass with my brownies. If all goes well and we stay yellow, I'll start drinking my tons of milk again.

Oh yah, Andy, EC is Elimination Communication - most kids are potty trained and diaper free by 2 years, which isn't necessarily faster than diapered kids, it just means you don't have to potty train them. You spend just as much time using the potty/bowl/sink whatever as you do changing diapers and wiping poo off of butts, it's just that I'd rather hold her over a bowl or potty than wipe super blowouts from every crack and crevice of her bum and body. And she's pretty darn good at it too! (The elimination in the potty part, not the superblowouts in every crack! ha!) and Oooooh no way, we're not diaper free, we're in the keep the diaper dry mode, work on timing and baby signals, no way could we go no dipe! We actually go through more than a normal amount of dipes because we don't put a cover on, and it's more than obvious when she's gone, so they get changed fast. I've only put a cover on her when we've gone out and when dh's aunt was here so she could hold her.

Malama, ack fussy baby! Mine is actually sleeping (can't believe it!) without me touching her. Of course I just neglected to wake her after we came home today, so she's still in her car seat. I feel so bad leaving her in the baby bucket, but it's nice for her to sleep and not be in my arms for once. I didn't realize EC was popular anywhere except places where they don't have diapers. I've found 3 other moms in about a 30 mile radius of me who have/are doing EC, but only one with an infant. It seems popular in places like New Zealand and other palces I've never been.

So there are 2 breastfeeding support groups - one at each hospital near here - and one meets 3x/week, while the other only meets 1 day. They are both run by really nice LCs and so we headed over there today and she pretty much said to give it another week, that likely the supergas is from normal gut development and the greenies are a balance issue that she and I will likely resolve if we keep on nursing. She said if another week of green poo stays, then to consider milk as an intolerance, and if something crazy like more mucous or blood shows up, to call right away for her help.

There's a LLL meeting next Tues. evening up the street - my best friend from high school is hosting the series, so I'll be heading to that for sure. The LLL meeting tomorrow is too early for me to actually consider getting out of the house in time for, and I'm feeling a lot better about the entire situation.

Az and Jessi, please don't go to the Feb boards, stay here with us Jan mamas!! You have far too much to give to this group.

I need a snack. And tonight is the first time we're on our own for dinner - between family and friends and leftovers we haven't had to cook dinner yet. Hmm.. what shall we have?

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Of course we will not defect to February! You all have been GREAT. I love my bead thread, sitting in front of the little labor shrine. Every once in a while I touch the beads and feel reassured somehow. I'm really looking forward to this birth, and you all are a good-sized part of that.

And hey, there are a few hours left in January. Let's have some babies!

Az, your blanket sounds like it will be pretty. A new baby should have a homemade blanket to wrap up in. Add to the list of reasons to homebirth: those white blankets with blue and pink stripes that EVERY hospital baby is wrapped in for the first few pictures.

Lisa, from way over here, the study of colors and fizziness of poop is kinda funny. I'm glad she is getting better.

Karen, sorry your little one was fussy. This newborn thing sounds tricky.

Yesterday I finally ran into our new neighbor (like 6 months), and he said they just had a new baby, their first, three weeks ago. We're going over there tonight to meet them. I'm excited. Our baby will have at least one neighbor just his/her age.
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It's not February yet!
I think us PP mamas with babes will stick around as long as it takes for the rest of you to have your babes!! They will come when they're ready- and not a moment sooner!

Still have a fussy baby here today..... now I don't want to eat the dinner that our friends brought over last night- the rest of the family can finish it. We also got a heavy tray of lasagna today, so maybe I'll stick to that.

Do any of you have some kind of waterproof pad that you're sleeping on? I bought this one when I bought my birth kit and it's just kinda synthetic-y and makes us sweat. Luka wakes up drenched- and that's with just a little t-shirt on. I took it off the bed and I did find I have a relatively small fleece blanket that I'll try- It won't absorb liquids but will keep the bed from getting icky.

I just looked at that MeiTei website- I like those carriers- are they easy to nurse in??? Anyone have one? Didn't someone say they sewed their own? Heather? Was it easy? Where'd you get the pattern?

I'm sitting here in my rocker with Luka on my chest and feeling HOT. They are such little heaters.
I wanted to maybe walk to my post office today, but the thought started to sound overwhelming- I have to walk over an overpass thing with lots of stairs and well, I just can't handle. Not ready to face the world.
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I'm still pregnant...and so jealous of all of you who have had your babies. Starting to hate my midwife and think I'll call her just before the baby comes. I'm a week late today, I was 10 days late with dd. and she wants to make a plan because I'm over due. I thought that having a homebirth would mean less pressure to have the kid "on time." I'm feeling tired and moody and pressured and not comforatble at all.

I know this baby will come and everything will be fine. I know my body works and I just tend to hold on to my babies a little longer...I make 'em small so they need a little extra time to bake. Dh has actually been really great and I think he's disappointed that our mw is making me feel stressed.

I'm going to go clean a bit and my sis said she would give dh and I a date night.

Send me labor vibes please...and I'm sending good vibes out to all of you.

PS just talked to my mom...she's worried the baby's going to be "too big." I hate worry vibes...they seem so negative and unhelpful. And that's why we didn't tell her about the homebirth.
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Karen, what is your goal for the pad? Are you keeping Luka w/o a dipe cover at night? Want to catch leaky boobs? Just sweat?

When Lauren had bum rash, we went diaper free for a night (she slept on a diaper) and we both slept on this (bottom to top) bed with regular bed stuff (mattress pad and sheet) then the "ultimate crib sheet" (waterproof but soft on top) and then a beach towel, us and our top blankets - it was SO sweaty because of the plastic layer in the crib sheet. That lasted 2 nights before I ripped it off the bed. Now we have 2 layers of beach towel (the big ones - they go from just under my pillow to my bum, edge of bed to dh) and I put her on a lap pad that's about 10x12" because we aren't using diaper covers in the house. It's still too hot for my perfect sleeping conditions, but I'm pretty sure that's because the towels aren't 100% cotton, I might switch to bath towels and see if that's more comfy.

My leaky breasts don't leak through the layers, her diaper hasn't either, as long as she's on the lap pad, and we're doing ok. I change out the towels every other day. If you have an old wool blanket, you can wash and dry it on hot to felt it up, and it should give you some waterproofing, same with fleece, it will wick the moisture away, although fleece makes me sweat. So either of those on top of a towel might work. Good luck!

Dh just went to school, he's taking a math class. I think he has seriously begun to regret not going to school like the rest of us did when we were 18. He's 30 and a frosh in college now. And hating every moment of life with all the 18 yr olds. But at least he left us well fed and dry, and babe is sleeping. She's actually slept a decent amount today, I hope it's more because of an impending growth spurt than a wakeful night to come. I think we're going to bed at 7:30 tonight, that gives me an hour or so to finish up things around here and then start the bedtime routine. Aaah if only we had a routine!

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The asian baby carrier(ABC)/mei tei carriers are pretty easy to make. As are the pouches. I don't have the original site I used for the pattern. Usually I save them If you do a search, you should be able to find some instructions for them. If you need better assistance, let me know.

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Lisa, I know what you mean. DH went to school from the time he was 18 on and off. He had many different institutions under his belt when we met. One thing we wanted was for him to get his degree. He graduated in 2001 at the age of 30. He definitely had a different perspective on things as the older student. His age also helped him with his degree choice and GPA. I cannot say that I used my degree the way he has, and I definitely didn't have his awards upon graduation A few years makes a difference...

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On bedding and co-sleeping...

(Geez, you'd think I was Kahil Gibran with opening lines like that!)

I have some worries about my co-sleeping- I like a cool house, and sleep on a feather bed, with a thick feather pillow flung over my head burying it completely, with a big queen sized feather comforter crowded around me (no pregnancy pillows necessary, enough blanket to get everything in the right position). Dh has his own twin feather comforter he sleep with ( which we got when he realized I am bad at sharing!) Anyway, I sleep in quite a nest....I will lack sleep when babe comes, and half will probably be from missing my blankies...

So, with the co-sleeping instruction that I can not have extra bedding, we are planning on removing the feather bed. I got a regular mattress pad just for comfort to replace the down. But I have seen some co-sleeoing instructions that say NO bedding at all- sleep in clothes and put clothes on baby. How far do people go. I am just thinking I'll get the hang of it and trust I will work it out with my baby, but how sparsely do I have to go? And when will the kid be old enough to tolerate a more cushy situation?

For waterproofing at birth and beyond (we plan a homebirth, then to CD and EC) I needed something to protect the bed for birth that would also work after baby comes. I was not into vinyl for reasons of heat/off gasing, so I found a cloth/Teflon covered mattress pad at Target. I was a bit skeptical, and when I got it home poured blueberry juice on it. It beaded up didn't stain...but beaded up and needed to be wiped off. So I wonder what it will be like with leaky stuff- it will make surethe mattress isn't ruined, and will keep it al lto the sheets i guess. Anyway, I will see if this is any good. At least it won't be hot I hope.....If not i have these big waterproof pads someone gave me- like 3 feet square. I was thinking of tucking those under baby's spot in case of leaky boobs and butts.

Sorry your feeling pressure from the midwife momjess! If you can clear up the air with her before birth- not good to have weird vibes with anyone on the birth team, esp the midwife! I hope you two can get on the same page. Hang in there- birth vibes to you!

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thanks Heather.... I did some searches and found a few meitai patterns- WAY easy. Wish i made one BEFORE Luka was born- could busy that out in no time at all....now will be an endeavor.

Heidi- we use blankets and stuff and co-sleep. main thing for safety(IMO) is to have a good firm surface- not a mushy bed. But blankets are ok- just don't suffocate them on the kid. Half the time it seems you sleep with the baby in the crook of your arm, so they're "protected" in your embrace. AND, all the worrisome stuff is for when they're real little.... you;ll find something that works- though the "nest" you use now might be challenging!!!

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Hi,

Had a bunch of stuff to write, but now its late and I'm way too tired...Karen, Andy - mei tais are great, we use one a lot, because my chubby buddhas are too fat for those baby bjorn thingys. I got my KKACP today. Its great, but its sort of skin colored and I feel weird wearing something that color, so I think I'll exchange it. There are no good colors left. I think I'll have to go with the red retro print. Bummer...

Lisa- glad everything seems to be working out. Hang in there. You too Karen .

I think V is going the EC route too. We always go coverless, but she hates having a diaperon. I usually just lay her on a prefold for about 15 minutes, she goes, and we're done. Um...EC I believe is a Pacific Rim tradition,(New Zealand, Japan, East Asia...) although there are other areas that do it too.

Heidi - I wouldn't worry too much about the bedding. You might have to do away with the featherbed, but I always used adown comforter when ds1 was a bambino. He slept on my chest anyways, so suffocating wasn't a big problem. Like Karen said, mushy is more of a problem than entanglement(?)

On bed coverings- I got a wool matress pad from somewhere, about 5 years ago, and it rocks. Totally absorbs, and never smells. I usually lay a fleece blanket over the sheet to protect it from rotten milk smell, but nothing is better than the wool matress pad. I wish I could remember where I got it. I bet they would know where to get one in the diapering forum (gasp!)

Hang in there pregnant mamas! Please don't go away. Our little group is getting so close, we would miss you so. I'm not a January mama either, but I stayed :

And I'm an old college person too : I went when I was younger, but mostly partied and goofed off. I really had no idea what I wanted to do until after I had kids. It's ok though, there are lots of old people in the nursing program
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Hey good morning mamas! Wow - lots of topics...

Jess - hang in there and clear the air is my opinion too. You sound really upbeat (and pissed off) but keep that upbeat I know what I'm doing feel and you'll come through with shining colors. I don't htink your expectation of the hb/less pressure was off target. Maybe your mw has other mamas due after you and SHE is feeling some pressure? Communicate w/her and let her know your situation...maybe she just needs reminding?

Matresses: we have a wool pad under the big bed and a matress topper under the smaller bed (where we usually sleep, me and Ori). The matress topper is from the bed store. It's completely waterproofed on the bottom, padded (quite nicely) and then matress material (nasty but not hot) on top. We use a flannel fitted sheet, usually, and a down duvet. It hasn't leaked through at all, even when Ori decided to pee right at me and hit the bed when I turned him on his side. What aim! Poor guy is sick today. He got dh's sickness. Coughing, snuffling, not nursing well at all. Poor little Ori...We're staying close to the big bed/tv/lots of pillows today. So far no fever. Back to topic, I don't know what to say except that layering towels is probably a good plan, especially good cotton ones (but who wants to layer them on the bed instead of using them???) that won't make you sweat, or a wool topper pad, which isn't supposed to be too hot in warm weather (although I didn't use it during the summer, so I don't know about that), or just diving into the bed store and seeing what they have. Usually they have stuff for the twin beds they sell to kids who might still have accidents at night. Heidi - I agree on the firm matress thing (futon is really great, matress is great too, feather bed is for like maybe over a year old, maybe older). The blanket situation is a lot more flexible. My kids tend to snuggle me because dh is hotter. As Karen said, they are little furnaces, and mine don't love the ultra hot, just the snuggly warm.

I'm sending out baby vibes to those who need them...(8:16am est) I hope that those who want them do have success at their right time! And those not ready, just close your eyes and think happy pregnancy thoughts for a few minutes ...

What else, oh, Karen - chill mama - a walk is nice, but going so far that it gives you the willies is TOO FAR! I'm sorry it's so hot. Try keeping a t-shirt layer between you and Luka's head, or a flannel...I'm trying to remember to when dd was born and it was like 95degrees out - quite miserable, really. We spent a lot of time in the book store and the library, where it was air conditioned. Not much help, sorry...

Lisa - I'm glad Lauren is getting better! What a strong girl! I give you a lot of credit for doing the EC thing - I don't think I could be 'bothered'. Just as easy for me to change the poopey stuff - Ori hasn't had a terrible upthebackanddownbothlegs blow out yet. He seems to make lots of little ones all day long (what dh calls wet farts - SORRY...tmi!). Lots of wet diapers, so far. I think that's my concern, because he is having trouble breathing through his nose he's not nursing very well and I'm afraid he's going to dehydrate. I moved the air mister in with him, maybe that'll help his nose...

Well, I'm going to go snuggle up with the little dude. I am really glad we're sticking together until all our babies are born. I can't IMAGINE losing some of our mamas at THIS stage! Have a great day mamas! Andy

PS - thanks for the sling/pouch info. I'm not convinced the pouch would be that much more comfortable for him, if he isn't liking the sling. It seems like a similar positioning for baby, which I think is his complaint. Once he's bigger and can sit up in it I think Ori'll be happier. And he does like the front carrier, so I'm not complaining.

PPS - someone else emailed me to let me know that Orin means Pine Tree in hebrew. Huh?

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