Any bad experiences or good ones?
I just discovered the Vibram Five Fingers shoes and am tempted to get a pair. Does anyone own a pair?
The snow FINALLY melted up here and I'm thinking about getting into this but could definitely use some tips and would love to hear about your opinions and experiences!
You might want to check out the book "Born To Run" by Christopher McDougall - my DH is not a fast reader, but he stayed on the couch for an entire weekend and read it through. I skimmed through it and the story and information are pretty interesting.
Trying to learn/prep as much as I can in hopes of someday becoming a WAHM!
I do really like just walking around in my VFF. My feet feel good in them. I have the Sprint version, but I'd really like to get a pair of the Treks when they release the women's in May. I also really like the new "running" VFF that they just released. Those look cool. My dh has the Treks and likes them a lot. I do a lot of trail running so I think the Treks would suit me better. But the Sprints are so much cuter.
Dh has Sprints and KSO's. He much prefers the Sprints.
I took them for a little test drive around the block, and they will definitely take a little getting used to. I am hoping that as long as I can be patient, that I can eventually put some mileage on them.
Psssst! Come on over to the dingo thread here; it's a group of running mamas, and a handful of the ladies there are barefooters and owners of VFFs. If I were one of those barefooters, I could answer your questions myself, but my toes are too wimpy to go shoe-free. Maybe this summer.
I'm up to 6.5 miles in my VFF. I might attempt a 10K race in them next month.
I settled on a pair of Nike Frees and I love them. I feel like my knees and ankles finally stopped hurting! I don't do marathons or anything, but have raced a few 5K's in them and my long runs are up to 6 or so miles tops. I shaved 1 minute and a half off my 5K time recently too and I feel that the shoes were one piece to that.
I also sadly agree that keeping up with the dingo thread is far too difficult.
I've tried to join the Dingo thread twice, but you guys move way too fast for me to keep up.
I'm up to 6.5 miles in my VFF. I might attempt a 10K race in them next month.
I ran a bit in my VFF's today, only about a mile, and then I did my lifting workout in them. No problems, I love them. The only reason I took them off today was because I had to get a pedicure for my brother's wedding. If I had known that my VFF's would come before the wedding I wouldn't have bothered!
I haven't been here for a while but someone told me today that Kimya Dawson's hubby is a barefoot runner. I got curious if anyone here is into barefoot running as well.
I just finished my first barefoot marathon on Oct. 17th. Here is my blog addy.
/ I come and go as time allows to the site here and usually just lurk.
Anyways, hello barefooters!
since folks on here are recommending mcdougall's born to run, i've gotta jump in. i highly recommend you don't read that book, it's full of bad information. i was shocked again and again at the outrageous statistics he made about runners and running shoes. if you're interested in barefoot running, please look elsewhere.
running shoes are not the problem (as mcdougall would have us believe), bad mechanics are. consider that the barefoot/minimal running shoe movement is based on correcting running mechanics. specifically, running barefoot prevents heel striking, for the lack of cushioning on the heel (when barefoot) makes it necessary to hit the more padded forefoot. make no mistake about it, heel striking while running (as opposed to walking) is bad. heel striking places an enormous amount of stress on the shins, knees, hips and back and doing so will greatly increase your risk of injury. in addition, heel striking is a tremendous waste of energy, for it causes the runner to bounce up and down excessively and keep the foot on the ground too long. of course, the object of the game while running is to travel forward with the least amount of energy and with the least amount of stress on the body as possible, so any movement other than forward and back should be eliminated. lastly, heel striking slows you down because it causes a breaking in forward momentum. heel striking is bad, but do you need to get rid of your well cushioned, structurally sound shoes to learn to run correctly?
throwing out your well-cushioned, structurally sound shoes because your mechanics are poor (heel striking) is like throwing out the baby with the bath water. in other words, if your mechanics are the problem, you should throw out your mechanics, and keep the good running shoe. a well-cushioned and structurally sound shoe does not cause you to run poorly. a misunderstanding in running mechanics can. a combination of shock absorption and mid-foot protection from a good running shoe along with proper running mechanics is the best strategy for injury prevention.
all runners will benefit from learning to run with proper running mechanics. most of us have seen elite runners with their graceful long strides covering ground at mind boggling speeds. however, most of us probably don’t know that their stride frequency (and that of most experienced runners whether they know it or not!) is the same whether they are running 9:00 min per mile or 5:00 min per mile. 180 steps per minute (90 on each foot) is what has been proven to be the most efficient (energy saving), and the least stress producing (injury preventing) turnover for runners going both fast and slow. the differences in speed are a result of stride length. a more powerful stride results in a longer stride, but the legs turn over at the same rate. it is impossible to achieve a stride frequency of 180 steps while heel striking. the foot stays on the ground much too long and takes too long to get through the rest of the gait cycle (foot strike, mid-stance, toe-off, follow through). it should be noted, at this point, that it is also impossible to achieve a stride frequency of 180 steps while forefoot striking if the foot is plantar-flexed (toes pointing towards the ground). instead, you should forefoot strike while maintaining the dorsa-flexed position (ankle cocked back and toes pointing up). there are other factors that can prevent a runner from achieving a turnover of 180 steps per minute, but the foot strike is by far the most significant.
along with learning to run with the proper foot strike and turnover, all runners will benefit from selecting a good shoe based on a biomechanical analysis of his or her running gait. this does not mean that you must wear a heavy, non flexible, brick of a shoe. in fact, a runner should never wear more shoe than is needed. it is unnecessary to purchase a barefoot running shoe, although you may still reap some benefits in foot and ankle strength by removing your shoes at the end of a run for some (4-10) quick 100m strides. for decades, coaches have been having athletes remove their shoes at the end of a run for some barefoot strides. for the rest of your mileage, keep those old faithful running shoes on your feet and work on your running mechanics.
you may not be "born to run", but you can "learn to run".
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I missed this the first time around. I bought a pair of Vibrams this summer and for the first time ever I can actually run! It actually feels natural and I am twice as fast as I was before. I love my Vibrams!!!
Just wanted to add that I have a pair of VFF KSOs and I am really loving them. I have a severe bone spur on the heel of my left foot and I thought the VFF would be torture on it. I was totally wrong! They are the only shoes I can wear all day without wanting to take off. I can't say enough good things about them!
Reviving a bit of an old thread....
I've just recently started researching this adn I think it's a great concept! We were born barefoot, who ever said we needed shoes? Lost of kids have a harder time walking once they get into hardsoled shoes. I believe the foot is meant to sit flat on the ground. That's not to say a little cushioning is a horrible idea. But maybe run completely bare foot at first so you really listen to the road. If you're doing something wrong you'll notice a lot quicker and be able to correct it. Then if you want some vibrams or something, go get some.
I walk around all day without shoes so I don't think it'll be too tough a transition. Soon as my cough/bronchitis clears I'm getting out there! Even though it's like minus 20 C... lol
I posted when I first got my first pair of VFF's in June. I have a second pair now, the bikila's. I run in them exclusivley, I had a few days when it snowed and I wore shoes and I really don't love to run nearly as much with shoes on. I disagree with one of the pp's about McDougall's book. I got from the book that he did talk quite a bit about stride. In his first ultra he wore running shoes and exclusively worked on changing his stride. He talked about not heel striking, about running "light, easy, fast," etc. He talked a great deal about posture, and stated that in the end when they had this big race that regardless of what the runners were wearing on their feet, they all had one thing in common...their stride. Anyway, I really enjoyed the book, and felt like there was very little focus on vibram's, or barefooting and that most of the focus was on stride. I
I find that I pay more attention to maintaining a healthy stride when I run in vibram's. I can feel instantly when something isn't right. I am training to run my first marathon in them in May 2011.
I started with a pair of KSO's over a year ago and just got a pair of Trek Sports. I not a big runner, but I do run occasionally in them and find that my gait is totally different - which is the point!
Seconding the recommendation to ease into them. I've heard a lot of people quit because they ran too much too fast.
The Trek Sports are a lot grippier than the KSO's, without sacrificing the barefoot feel. I love to hike more than run, which is why I got them. I've also used them for martial arts outdoors.
This is a great article: http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/
I also have a pair of nike frees 3.0 for the cold weather and when I want to look more "normal." But most of the time I don't care, and if I'm wearing them out and about they're a great conversation piece.
I love to tell my minimalist running story!!!
I am a new runner, just started this past July (I'm 35). I always wanted to, my family are all runners, but I would get the worst shin splints. and i hated that jarring feeling in my brain every time my heel would hit. So painful and disconcerting. I like to read just about anything and had read about minimalist running in the past. I decided to jump on the treadmill one day in my socks and ran a mile, no problem, and no pain (although my feet an ankle muscles were noticeably tired). I kept running w/ my socks for a week and decided I really liked it. But needed real shoes so I could go outside and run. I did some research, threw on my sauconys (used for walking) and tried to run. Yikes! It is hard to run minimalist style in typical running shoes. that high padded heel is very hard to avoid when you are putting your foot down.
So i bought the Nike frees. Bad move. I hated them for running (walking is very nice). they were hard to run in and uncomfy. i felt off balance in them. i put a total of maybe 8 miles on them and went shopping for the five fingers. got the bikilas and love them. you must run correctly though. the woman in the running store would not let me give her money until she was sure i wasn't heel striking.
the pain i have had in my right knee since i was a teenager (i always thought it was a little arthritis) completely disappeared after about 2 weeks of minimalist running. what a blessing! it was hard to sleep sometimes it ached so much.
i do suggest trying out a padded sock on a treadmill to perfect your stride. I still use socks on the treadmill (and get stares at the Y). my knee pain had transferred from right to left and i figured out it was my stride because of my socks. interestingly, if you use socks with some type of shading difference running from toe to heel and run on a treadmill and you see your sock rotating around your foot (i noticed it on my left foot) your stride may be imperfect. i concentrated on making that left sock not rotate and poof, left knee pain gone.
try them! take your time, learn to run again and you won't regret it. (never read the book Born to Run, curious about it but haven't had time).
ps - my sister has been a long distance runner since she was 6 and she thinks i am crazy but is very curious and wants to try my shoes. i told her she couldn't until she got on the treadmill w/ socks and practiced.
That's so interesting about the sock turning...
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