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Everyone I know is so tremendously thin.  Their Facebook pages are plastered with the most amazing pictures of themselves in teeny tiny bikinis.  They look fabulous!  They seem happy...I see lots of nice marriages, good parents, friendly, happy kids.  And flat bellies and beautiful legs.

 

 

How do other women control their appetite?  I can read the diet plans, but really...who can follow them?!?  3 oz of salmon, 1/2 C of brown rice and a nice salad.  You have got to be kidding me!  I can eat that and then sit down to a meal.  My appetite is huge!  

 

 

I am not jealous.  I am not angry at myself.  I do not have a negative self image.  I am strong and happy.  I run and exercise and eat decently.  I just want to know how so many women are able to stay so very, very slim. 

 

 

And yes, I know what a lot of you might say -- that I don't know what women are going through to keep weight off -- they may be bingeing and purging, they may be battling eating disorders.  I just don't see it.   I see healthy women, living active lives who all seems to be sporting size 2 jeans.  I have seen eating disorders before and I don't see the signs in any of my friends.  

 

 

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Why don't you ask them?  How would anyone here know?

 

My skeleton is a size 2, there's no way i could be that thin, or would WANT to be that thin.  So i don't really "get" the attraction.  But if you really want to know how they do it then you need to ask.  Last time i was thin (a 6, BMI 19) i was 16, i was eating about 800 calories a day and exercising 2-3 hours a day, except on weekends when i did a heavy manual job for 4 hours then exercised (horses, so mucking out, grooming, riding, etc.) for 6-8 hours in the afternoons/evenings.  I didn't have an eating disorder, i just didn't find time to eat, so i was basically having one slice of toast for breakfast and a light evening meal which i picked at, because i was fussy.

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Most of the thin women that I know (a lot of women) have always lived in the same state they grew up in. They maintain friends from high school and college. They live close to their families. They have been married to their college sweetheart for over a decade, and are financially stable. That being said, they are happy campers. My metabolism has so much to do w/ my happiness. I notice that I eat more when I'm angry, lonely etc, but I also notice that if I eat healthy small portions, I gain weight (or don't lose weight) if I'm not happy. For the past year, I've worked on my happy quotient and have kept my life routine. I've lost 30 pounds w/out really trying (not working out etc). For me, it's all about being happy. I spent time on me now. I make sure that I get regular hair cuts, paint my toenails, meditate, light scented candles, drink fun teas and coffees, watch comedy movies, say no to people when I don't want to do things, stay away from negative people, put make up on daily (this isn't a suggestion if you hate makeup), spend at least an hour alone daily (I sometimes get up at 3:30 AM to do this), make sure my house is clean (this is something I need to be happy), and anything else to keep my happy quotient high. Just my 2 cents. : )

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Well, I think it's just genetic. I have always been thin. I don't know why, I never ate brown rice and salmon and all that. I will say, though, I have to work at it now after I had my 2nd baby.

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I think people who are "naturally" thin use food the way it was intended ~ to provide energy.  Not to drown sadness, not to celebrate, not to fill bored spaces in life or for any other reason other than to nourish the body.  I tend to use food for other reasons, but there have been times in my life when I have concentrated on eating ONLY when I'm hungry and stopping, even mid plate, when I'm satisfied.  When I do this, I get normal-thin.  Not skinny.  I'm not dieting during these times, nor am I bingeing or purging or exercising 3 hours a day.  Just listening to my body's energy needs and feeding myself appropriately.  It works well, until I get really stressed, or angry, or bored and my brain tells me that a dozen donuts would be the ticket out of those uncomfortable emotions!  Gee, just writing this makes me realize how much I need to get back to honoring my body's true hunger needs!

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Well, I think it's just genetic. I have always been thin. I don't know why, I never ate brown rice and salmon and all that. I will say, though, I have to work at it now after I had my 2nd baby.


Same here.  I weigh more now that I ever have not pregnant but I'm still pretty thin.  So is my mom.  So is the majority of my family.  We're also pretty active people too.

 

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I think it's 90% genetics.

 

I have never been thin, and (short of catastrophic illness or famine) I never will be. Whether I'm active or sedentary, whether I'm happy or miserable, whether I have healthy habits or not, I'm just not thin. I do have a muscular build. I'm muscular when I'm getting regular exercise & I'm muscular when I'm not. I think we are programmed to have a certain body type and that basic type doesn't change.


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Only time I was ever that thin, I was not eating, period.

 

Some people are made thin. Genetics is 90% of it. My great grandmother, during the depression, barely ate due to no food. Yet, she was over 300 pounds.

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Well... I don't see a lot of thin women, or men, or even children, where I live!  Most people around here are overweight.  I know that varies over different places in the country but overall the US is getting heavier and heavier!

 

I have always been thin (135 lb 5'9") and have had 6 children and been pregnant more times than that.  I don't exercise though I am fairly active.  I don't think it is genetic because my parents and sister are all overweight.  I have often wondered how I have managed to stay thin despite all these pregnancies and not really exercising, plus my family being overweight.  When the weather is nice I try to get out for a walk a few times a week and i work in the garden, but during winter I stay inside and my only regular exercise is cleaning and walking up and down the stairs.

 

The one difference between my parents and me is that I have always been a very picky eater-- as a child there were only a handful of things I would eat, even as an adult, especially during times of stress, there are very few things I am happy to eat.  While I don't eat sugar or processed foods, I do eat a high carb diet with "bad" foods like fruit juice and bread from white flour.  I eat a lot of nuts, fruits and veggies, and a small amount of poultry.  Occasionally I drink skim milk.  That's about all I eat!  I don't count but I would guess I eat about 1700-2200 calories on any given day.  Not a huge amount but definitely not a small amount either.

 

Here and there I have dabbled with a restricted calorie diet for health reasons-- when I do restrict to, say, 1200 cal a day, I will get down to around 130 but I don't like being that thin.

 

When I look at old movies and black and white footage from ~80+ years ago I'm always amazed by how scrawny everyone looks.  I don't know why people used to be so thin and now we struggle with obesity.  People ate plenty of junk way back when.  Could it be the advent of transportation made people stop walking?  I don't know.

 

A person's perception of how much they are eating is not always accurate.  I saw a documentary once where they measured the caloric intake of two friends, one heavy and one thin.  The heavy one swore she hardly ate and the thin one swore she ate like a horse.  Well it turns out the opposite was true-- the heavy one was eating far more calories than the thin one.  I think different people have different "fullness triggers."  It is probably a chemical reaction between the brain and stomach.  Some people feel stuffed on a piece of bread and a cup of milk, some people feel stuffed after half a chicken and four sides.  So in that respect there is probably an organic/ genetic issue at play though I don't think that answers the puzzle entirely, since worldwide, people are getting heavier and heavier.  Even places like china are starting to have a rise in obesity.

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I think genetics play a role, but it is definitely not the whole story.  I read recently (can't remember where) but people who are adopted tend to have similiar body types to their adoptive families rather than their genetic ones.  So definitely more environmental causes happening there. 

 

I mainly agree with JayGee - I think people who are naturally thin eat only the amount of food that their bodies require.  Whether intentional or just because that is how they have always done it. 

 

I know that I am fat because I eat too much and am too sedentary.  It only stands to reason that healthy, thin people only eat what they need and don't spend night after night binging on the couch. 

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You really can't know unless you ask them. Take me, for example-- I gained about 40 pounds when I was pregnant with my twins, and then in the first three months after they were born I lost 90 pounds. You do the math. People were constantly stopping me and asking me how I managed to lose so much so soon after the birth, and how lucky I was, and I even got some resentful "Oh, I hate you thin people so much" comments that I never know how to answer.

The truth was that four days after the twins were born I got sick with a serious, chronic, and incurable autoimmune disease that meant that I wasn't able to eat more than a few crumbs at a time without excruciating pain. I nearly died, that first year. When I look at pictures of myself from then, I look positively skeletal. (I was about 90 at my lowest weight-- my normal weight is/was about 140, on a small frame. And yet to the casual stranger, or to acquaintances, I obviously didn't look "sick" since they were making all these comments.

I do think that the genetic factor is the strongest in this. So are basic lifestyle patterns, like how much time is spent sedentary. So are food choices, and the reasons why one eats, and all the issues surrounding food. It's extremely complex, and there are so many factors in weight gain and loss that we still don't understand.


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Before my endocrine system crashed after my first pregnancy I was able to eat whatever I wanted without gaining weight, and able to lose weight easily. 

 

I think many women who are overweight have an underlying health problem or are eating something they are reacting to, even if its not a full on allergy.  I think cutting out wheat/gluten for awhile can help tremedously in healing the body.  Since I did so I am able to eat 1400-1500 calories a day and still lose, when previously I would have to eat under 1000 to do so! 

 

My mom is still thin.  I see what she eats, its more like big salads, lean meats, a little dairy and an occasional bread or junk food.  By no means does she eat a lot of refined flour, sugar, etc and if I had to guess I'd say she eats 1100-1200 calories a day.

 

ETA:  I am somewhat of an emotional eater.  The way to overcome this is to emotionally eat fruits or veggies instead of bad foods.  Your body will thank you for the extra nutrition!  My favorite comfort food now is baked sweet potato w/butter and salt =)

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I have a friend that is quite thin.  I'm 5'9 165 so not overweight but could stand to loose 10 to 15 pounds.  The main difference between the two of us is that I like to eat until I feel full and she eats until she doesn't feel hungry.

 

I also think people have a "resting" weight.  If I don't watch what I eat and don't exercise my body will eventually find its way to 165.  I don't know if the number is determined by genetics, habits, body memory or what but I think most people have a weight their body likes to hang out at.  Maybe some people have a lower resting weight than the rest of us.

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I think it's Facebook. Are these people you still see on a regular basis? Everyone posts their best pictures there. What you're seeing might be 5-10 years ago when they lost a bunch of weight for a trip. Also, at least with my group of friends on Facebook, very few of them post the rough spots in their marriage. They only post when they are going through a phase of feeling like newlyweds. In fact I think a couple of my friends used the "I love my husband" posts to try and save their marriage.

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When I do a moderate amount of exercise (running 15-20 miles per week)  I am able to eat pretty much whatever I want and stay around a size 6.  I attribute it to having been active for most of my life  and that foundation makes it easier for me to maintain a smaller size.  I also think genetics and how I ate growing up has a lot to do with it (very healthy, mostly homemade meals).  I eat fairly healthy now, but I certainly don't calorie count or do much food restriction. 


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Apologies for not replying  Mothering has been eating my posts...trying again.  

 

Thank you for all of the wonderful replies.  I have read everything and been doing a lot of thinking.  

 

I know a lot of it is genetics and I do come from a long line of obese family members.   Obesity is taking my family from me -- diabetes, heart disease and cancer are killing us.  I have done better than most of my immediate family - I have kept my weight under 200 pounds and I am now 175.  Yes, I am obese, but the painful truth is that I am quite slim by my family's standards.  My 7 year old son is now overweight and I am at pains to improve his health before the excess weight takes a toll on his health and well being.  

 

We are living in Sweden right now and I am keenly aware that we are the heaviest people around.  The Swedes are slim people.  I am 1/2 Swedish by heritage, so I just cannot continue to believe that I am genetically preprogrammed to be overweight.  Lifestyle is central to the Swedish method of staying slim.  While we have been here I have been eating better and exercising more and it has showed with a 7 pound weightloss.  

 

But my "healthy" eating is simply not good enough -- like many on Mothering, I work hard to insure that my family eats well -- we have food sensitivities -- no wheat and no milk.   These limitations have meant that we eat nothing processed  -- no fast food, no pizza, nothing packaged, nothing prepared.  All of our food is home cooked, all of it comes from simple ingredients - oatmeal and brown rice are our basic starches, we eat chicken and fish, no beef.  We grow a large garden, we eat fruit and vegetables with every meal.  We eat nuts and seeds and lentils and beans and avacados and olive oil and coconut oil.  

 

And yes, I am pained by the Facebook pictures.  I admit to being very frustrated.  I feel that I am doing well, but I am simply not doing good enough.  I see friends who are outrageously slim.  And not "I squeezed myself into Spanx" slim, but "I look rocking naked" slim.  I go to the gym here in Sweden and I am clearly the fattest woman in the locker room.  

 

I know that I am simply the fat woman who is eating too much.  And feeding my family too much.  

 

I hurt today.  I am sad to be struggling with this.  I am sad to be doing so much and to still be so far from my goal.  

 

Forgive my self-indulgence.  I thought about not posting at all, but I now that I am not the only one who feels this way and it helps to get it out.  My dh has the kiddos out to ice skate and I am off for a run.  I do love to run and have worked my way up to a nice 3 mile loop at an easy pace.  It feels great and I love to be outdoors -- soothing for my achey soul right now.  

 


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I was thinking about your question and I notice when I am happy and busy I am slimmer...so that makes me wonder if I am eating from boredom/sadness when I am bigger.  I was also thinking of women old and young in my family that stay slim and they seem to eat full meals slowly, without snacking, and no off-limits food.  The bigger people in my family seem to do the opposite.


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OP, please don't be too hard on yourself. You're taking great steps for a healthier lifestyle, and the weight loss will come. It just takes time, unfortunately. 7 lbs is a great start!

 

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And that is one reason why I am no longer on FB.   It drove me crazy and made me feel bad about myself.    Getting off there was the healthiest thing I have done for myself in a while.  

 

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Things I have noticed about my seriously skinny friends- All of them:

~Drink TONS of water

~snack on raw veggies a lot

~Nuts are their source of fat

~indulge in the occasional "bad food" but in a small portion followed or preceded by raw veggies

~walk or do some sort of light exercises regularly

~rarely eat out

 

As easy as all that looks, I too still struggle with the last 20lbs I carry. 

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I think a lot of it is due to genetics. Some of it is also due to your eating habits though, if you're constantly eating you're going to gain weight. I make sure to keep busy so I'm not just sitting around and eating out of peer boredom. Also make sure you're drinking enough water, try and drink a cup of it before you eat and it will fill up you a bit so you don't over eat. Also make sure to keep working out, I believe this is one of the best ways to stay healthy!

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For me....I lost 100 lbs back in '99.  I maintained my super fit physique until just before I became pregnant (so 7 years).  I was able to do this by spending 2-4h a day at our home away from home....the gym.  Hubby and I loved it and truly we spent up to 4h a day at the gym and ate dinner there about 5 d a week.  Rest day was still time doing cardio in the gym and going to the park and dancing the night away.   Wellll when pregnant with ds I gained about 100lbs.........yeah here I am 4 years later and still have to lose the weight....can I spend 3-4h a day in the gym now? No.  I am still active and go to the gym about 3x a week but for me it isn't enough.  I also am not as strict with food (I never starved in past though-1500-2000cals). 

 

So I think for some people it requires tons of dedication.  Also the more fit you are (more muscle) the more efficient your metabolism is.


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I'm 'thin' because I work hard to stay this way.   I don't really think of myself as 'thin', but I hear it a lot.

 

So anyway - I work out constantly to an intense level and I watch what I eat.  I haven't eaten ketchup in probably 10 years.

 

Sure genetics plays a part in how well my body responds to exercise and weightlifting....but I don't want to diminish the work I put in.


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I'm glad you posted. I'm struggling with a different issue myself and considering whether to reach out or if I'll sound whiny!

 

There's a thread over in TAO about food. A LOT of people have serious issues around food. I mean it's shocking. I've heard estimates that 30-50% of women on college campuses have some kind of eating disorder. Your thin friends may seem happy and well-adjusted and all, but well..... I dunno how many of them really have a healthy relationship with food. 

 

Having said all that, I'm naturally thin like everyone in my family and I think I do have a healthy relationship with food. My mom was classic pear-shaped and after 4 c-sections she had a huge venus de wallendorf belly and dangly breasts. But she never, never, never denigrated her body. That's just what it looked like in her 40s after all of the children. She was 5 feet 2 inches and a size 6 until her 40s and then settled into a 10 or 12. It's just what she looked like. THe point I'm getting at here is that she knew she was so much more than her body and she really taught that through example to her 3 girls.

 

After all of that, though, I think genetics plays an awful big role. I don't watch what I eat, I'm not careful, I have a huge appetite and I'm just thin. For both pregnancies, I gained about 50 lbs (from 100 lbs to 150 lbs) and a lot of the weight stayed with me through that first year with all of the breastfeeding. Now that my second is closing in on 1 year, I'm within 5 lbs of my pre-pregnancy weight - but it really took this long. I swear I'm not eating any different. Baby is just breasfeeding less so my body has decided it doesn't need to hold onto the weight. I think some people are just inclined to hold onto more weight.

 

But I'll tell you what - when/if I get my mom's pear shape - I'm going to celebrate it just like she did!


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Well, I'm probably not someone who you'd hate because I'm so thin.  I'm on the high end of the healthy range of my BMI, but I'm very petite and fine boned.  I too struggle with appetite.  I can eat a LOT.

 

One tool I have used to lose weight in the past is tracking/calorie counting.  I have done a restricted calorie program and it was extremely educational.  For instance I learned that I personally can never, ever drink juice - every time I did, I ended up using up a ton of my calorie budget without feeling satisfied and wanted to 'cheat.'  On the other hand, a few squares of dark chocolate didn't seem to throw off the whole program.  I learned to eyeball proper serving sizes, and realized that when I was hungry, I needed to pick a food that met the health guidelines of the program - for instance, if I hadn't had my dairy requirement for the day I tried to tick that off, or if I hadn't eaten a lot of fruits and veggies, I had some.  That helped with hunger a lot, even though I never ever really craved the 'right' foods...I craved a giant muffin every single time.  Even if you don't want to restrict your calories, tracking calories and nutritional information might be very revealing.

 

Right now I am trying calorie restriction again (trying to lose 10lbs) and the little things really do add up.  For me to change my normal eating habits into weight-loss promoting habits it's a matter of no sugar in my coffee, no butter on my rice, and cutting my dinner portion of rice in half.  Not a huge deal but not something I would ever think to do if I wasn't counting.

 

Other things that have not been mentioned yet are adequate hyrdation and sleep, which can really affect your appetite as well.  On my mat leaves when I have had more control over my lifestyle, I have always maintained or lost weight with absolutely no effort.  When I am working and need to get up at the crack of dawn, I need to be more careful.

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I certainly don't have the answer (if I did, I'd be rich!), but I heard an interesting radio segment a while back with a doctor who specializes in obesity, and has done some research of his own. He has hypothesized that there's another mechanism in play when it comes to the severe weight gain you see these days. It's not just calories in/calories out & it's not just genetics. He said that those things do cause weight gain, but not the 600 pound type. I'm personally carrying about 10 extra pounds now and that's because I eat too much, I eat when I'm bored. Try as I may, I'm not getting much fatter or much thinner. There's a setpoint, and somehow we are disordering our metabolisms so that they don't listen to our natural setpoint. He has been trying to scientifically determine a factual basis for metabolic disorder and trying to figure out what triggers it. 

 

My own personal feeling is that refined sugars have something to do with it. That's because of how I feel when I eat them. With me, they are very addictive AND once I eat something with refined sugar, the rest of my eating for the day is out of whack. Not only do I overeat the sugary treat, I overeat everything else and do not feel satisfied although I can feel my stomach is full. It's not enough. 

 

It sounds like you eat a healthy diet and are active. I mean, what else can you do? Does your body feel strong, healthy and capable? If so, maybe focus on that, and if not, work towards that goal rather than weight loss? 

 

I also had a thought last night that's kind of relevant to what you're saying. I have a physical trait that I hate that I can't do anything about, it's just there. I can obsess about it at times. Last night, while obsessing, I suddenly realized that it doesn't affect my life at all. Not at all, except in my mind. I have an awesome husband, a wonderful baby, a beautiful home, a community I like to live in, I'm healthy, etc...and this "flaw" doesn't have any bearing on any of that. So WHY am I wasting my energy on it?

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I'm 'thin' because I work hard to stay this way.   I don't really think of myself as 'thin', but I hear it a lot.

 

So anyway - I work out constantly to an intense level and I watch what I eat.  I haven't eaten ketchup in probably 10 years.

 

Sure genetics plays a part in how well my body responds to exercise and weightlifting....but I don't want to diminish the work I put in.


Bolding mine.

 

I wanted to come back to this thread because I've been thinking about it a lot lately.  I think it is so important to acknowledge that a good number of people who are thin are that way because they are diligent in eating right and exercising.  It's not some random occurrance.  They put a priority on taking care of their physical health.  If I am honest I need to loose 15 maybe 20 pounds and start building more muscle mass.  I've been trying to figure out what it is in my head that puts health so low on the priority list.  It would be easy to blame it on how busy I am with the kids but the reality is that I have never taken an active interest in my physical health.  Until I had kids I was one of those women who was naturally thin.  Age, metabolism, whatever, I just was.  Having kids has changed the landscape of my body.  Things are softer, lower and jigglier.  I envy other moms (no use comparing myself to teenage girls) who have flat stomachs and beautiful lean legs but that is on ME not them.  I know I could be toned and thin if I made it a priority.  Choosing for fruits and veggies, smaller portions, better snacks would help but I think the main thing is making it a priority just like I do with my spiritual, emotional and mental health.


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I think people who are "naturally" thin use food the way it was intended ~ to provide energy.  Not to drown sadness, not to celebrate, not to fill bored spaces in life or for any other reason other than to nourish the body.
This.

I don't believe for a second that 90% of it is genetics. My mother, my father, my sister, various extended family members are all overweight or obese. I'm not.
Before kids I was so active I could eat whatever I wanted whenever I wanted and I stayed fit. After my first baby, I had weight to lose just like every other woman on the planet. I plateaued at 12 lbs pre-baby weight. I had to start watching what I ate and how much of it. I had to sugar detox. I had to portion control. I had to use (this is crazy) self-discipline. I was the only one in control of what was going into my mouth so whether I succeeded or failed was all up to me.
Now years later after putting in the effort and building healthy habits, I can sit back and relax. I "naturally" no longer have a sweet tooth. Soda is one of the most disgusting things you could put in front of me. I crave veggies over fatty foods. My stomach is used to healthy portions. But I had to reprogram myself to be this way. I'm not starving myself. I'm not wishing I could have that cake. I'm happy and healthy. I'm eating what I want to be eating and the amount I want. I used to think I had IBS. Now I know it was just garbage in, garbage out.

I really HATE hearing "You're so *lucky* you're skinny!" BULL. I had to work for this. I earned it. I could have given up and decided it was too hard and blame it on genetics or kids. But I didn't. And if a tired, dumb, busy single homeschooling mom like me can do it anyone can. (Baring freak health disorders that would be legit reasons for some people but NOT for the 75% of America that is overweight now.)

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I know that I am simply the fat woman who is eating too much.  And feeding my family too much.

I hurt today.  I am sad to be struggling with this.  I am sad to be doing so much and to still be so far from my goal.  

But think of how happy you'll be when you're done. Think of how proud you'll be knowing you guided your family towards being more healthy and breaking the cycle.
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Do one thing at a time. If you need to sugar detox, do that first. Worry about amounts later. Don't try to do everything at once so you get overwhelmed and freak out.
Start thinking about a food's purpose in your diet before buying it/putting it in your mouth. Try alternatives. You're craving something sweet and want a cookie, try an apple first and see if it satisfies that craving. HFCS has GOT to go.
If you're still hungry after eating healthy portions, drink a glass of water and wait 20 minutes.
I'm a big fan of the green smoothies. They're really filling and a great way to increase green leafy veggies in your diet. Getting the nutrition you need out of your diet will help with cravings.
I really dropped weight fast when I hit the point where I quit mixing meat and dairy. Having one or the other at a time cuts out so much unnecessary fat. (I don't do a separation diet completely but the weight seriously comes off when you start doing things like no cheese on your turkey sammich, no meat on your pizza.)
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I wanted to come back to this thread because I've been thinking about it a lot lately.  I think it is so important to acknowledge that a good number of people who are thin are that way because they are diligent in eating right and exercising.  It's not some random occurrance.  They put a priority on taking care of their physical health.  If I am honest I need to loose 15 maybe 20 pounds and start building more muscle mass.  I've been trying to figure out what it is in my head that puts health so low on the priority list.  It would be easy to blame it on how busy I am with the kids but the reality is that I have never taken an active interest in my physical health.  Until I had kids I was one of those women who was naturally thin.  Age, metabolism, whatever, I just was.  Having kids has changed the landscape of my body.  Things are softer, lower and jigglier.  I envy other moms (no use comparing myself to teenage girls) who have flat stomachs and beautiful lean legs but that is on ME not them.  I know I could be toned and thin if I made it a priority.  Choosing for fruits and veggies, smaller portions, better snacks would help but I think the main thing is making it a priority just like I do with my spiritual, emotional and mental health.


I don't work at my weight, period.  I am a "lucky" person who does not tend to gain weight, I am not overweight (nor am I especially thin.)  5'8" and 145 lbs with larger frame/base weight and consistent size 8 FWIW.  I have had ups and downs with my diet and have eaten more and less healthy at different times in my life.  I have dabbled in comfort/boredom eating but it isn't how I relate to food as a norm.  I have in fact never made an effort in all my life to lose weight and I have remained at nearly the same healthy weight before and after pregnancies for twenty years.  Now, that weight does not mean I am fit and healthy and I make more of an effort now with that than I used to.  I have never "needed" to be active for weight reasons but I definitely need it to feel healthy.  In fact an easy weight means I tend to feel satisfied with my appearance, so it's actually easier to allow myself to be sedentary and make little effort.  My muscles become weak and lack tone so I have to fight that. 

 

My mother and sisters have serious weight problems, but I have a different father than my sisters, who was very tall and very thin. Therefore I do believe it is hugely genetic, but I also believe a lot can be related to carbs as well.  Not just refined carbs and sugars, but also the overall consumption of wheat and hidden sensitivities to that.  Whole grain or not, a lot of folks eat wheat for breakfast lunch and dinner plus snacks or nearly that often.  It has a high incidence of sensitivities and the more we eat of one kind of food the more likely we are to trigger those sensitivities.   

 

We always ate lots of whole foods and a fairly healthy standard diet before, however, my very active and muscular dh's beer-belly type gut disappeared in two weeks when he cut out wheat and did low carb, and it has not come back after six months of a relaxed whole foods diet with nearly no wheat, low grains and carbs, and high fats.  I think for some people weight issues can be the only symptom of a wheat or gluten sensitivity that is undermining health efforts.  I am sure for plenty of people that is not the issue, but for some it's worth exploring.

 

I haven't even touched the subject of emotional eating and all, nor food or sugar addiction.  One of my sisters has this kind of problem as well and is 250+ lbs., has multiple allergies and a disabling autoimmune disorder but would not dream of giving up her cakes and chocolate and other sweets.  I try not to judge as I obviously do not have to face her disadvantages, but it is sad and I do not understand and I can't say anything that helps. 

 

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I'm 'thin' because I work hard to stay this way.   I don't really think of myself as 'thin', but I hear it a lot.

 

So anyway - I work out constantly to an intense level and I watch what I eat. 



I have a couple of good friends who are a size six but you know what? The exercise and the food consume their thoughts. It is almost an obsession with them. They haven't read the latest good book or sat playing in the sandbox with their kids because they perceive that time as time they could be working out.

 

I don't choose to live my life that way. I am 25 pounds overweight currently. I do make some effort to move around daily but  that's all. My hubby has gained the same amount in our marriage and we love each other just the way we are. Spring, we work in the garden. In the summer, we hike. In the fall, we bike. Winter, we put on movies and eat more cheese.

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