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#151 of 157 Old 06-17-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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I don't think it's the same as natural disasters, etc..All people, religious or not, understand that we are only here for a finite period. So, our lives have to end somehow, from accident, violence or disease. For the Christian, though, our life here is just basically a test which will determine where we spend eternity. So, a person who dies in a storm isn't really any worse off than a person who dies from an illness...you could argue that a person who dies as a young adult may have less time to, say, repent and come to Jesus, than a person who dies of an age related illness, but on the other hand a younger person may have less sin and less doubt.
A person who is born with a mental illness that causes them to commit crimes doesn't have a chance in the typical Christian heaven/hell afterlife scenario, however, as in the case of a sociopathic killer. I can see why this is a difficult thing to understand.

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I don't think it's the same as natural disasters, etc..All people, religious or not, understand that we are only here for a finite period. So, our lives have to end somehow, from accident, violence or disease. For the Christian, though, our life here is just basically a test which will determine where we spend eternity. So, a person who dies in a storm isn't really any worse off than a person who dies from an illness...you could argue that a person who dies as a young adult may have less time to, say, repent and come to Jesus, than a person who dies of an age related illness, but on the other hand a younger person may have less sin and less doubt.
A person who is born with a mental illness that causes them to commit crimes doesn't have a chance in the typical Christian heaven/hell afterlife scenario, however, as in the case of a sociopathic killer. I can see why this is a difficult thing to understand.
But all are part of the problem of suffering, and in a natural disaster scenario, it creates immediate and long term suffering that comes through no fault of any person.

I'm not convinced that those who are mentally ill or damaged somehow, and therefore commit immoral acts, do miss out on Heaven, so that's really not an issue for me.

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I'm Jewish. Not all Jews believe in hell. There is the concept of sheol, which is more similar to the Greek underworld than the Christian hell.

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I'm Jewish. Not all Jews believe in hell. There is the concept of sheol, which is more similar to the Greek underworld than the Christian hell.
this is what we learned in my 9th grade theology class in Catholic school. i have always wondered whether it was true or not.
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this is what we learned in my 9th grade theology class in Catholic school. i have always wondered whether it was true or not.
Yes, but it isn't something that is necessarily taught. A lot of things that Christians adhere to about God (Heaven, Hell, etc) are up for interpretation in the Jewish community.

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Yes, but it isn't something that is necessarily taught. A lot of things that Christians adhere to about God (Heaven, Hell, etc) are up for interpretation in the Jewish community.
this is probably the biggest thing i have learned by reading this bored. well.. this and and how (rightfully) offended many people are by common misconceptions and judgements about their religion.
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this is probably the biggest thing i have learned by reading this bored. well.. this and and how (rightfully) offended many people are by common misconceptions and judgements about their religion.
That mostly everything is up for interpretation?

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