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#31 of 45 Old 02-12-2004, 08:10 PM
 
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I like when schools include all rather than banishing all.
I also think that the schools forbidding a child from praying quietly over his/her own lunch are wildly misreading the laws, and in every case I've heard of that's what has been decided. As far as Bibles being taken, if any other book being read in class was taken too. But if a student is having free time to read what they wish, then they ought to be able to read their Bible.
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please go here:http://www.mothering.com/discussions...0&pagenumber=1
wow. no offense, but there is an awful lot of very very bad science in some of the "supportive" posts. but this isn't the place to talk about that, if you want a genuine discussion on the subject i'd be happy to take it to PM.
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dado - the reason I mentioned that link is because that is where I have already discussed my personal views on that subject and I didn't feel that it should be discussed further here as that is not necessarily what this thread is about. I did not mention it to say whether you are wrong or right or to begin another debate...if you misunderstood, I apologize, I shoudl have clarified.
If you see it all as bad science that is your right.
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Regarding BC and AD usage:
BC = Before Christ,
AD= Anno Domini = the year of our Lord.

BCE = Before Current Era, so the dates are the same but the abbreviation isn't based on one religion

CE (the usage I learned in college) = Current Era, again no reference to any one religion, even though for convenience's sake the numbers of the years are the same.

Actually the Gregorian calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII and was/is a Christian calendar that is still tied to the assumed time of Christs birth. Hence we are in the year 2004 CE/AD. Other non Christian communities have/had their own calendars such as the Jewish calendar which is dated from their belief when the world began currently called 3761 BCE/CE. The Islamic calendar is tied to the 622 BCE/CE and the emigration of Muhammad from Mecca to Medina.

The Gregorian calendar is not a universal calendar the world over and is specifically tied to nations with a predominantly Christian population and is a secondary calendar for other nations that deal heavily with such countries.

Using BCE/CE does not change the delination of time, it is still tied to Christ.
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When would you like to count it from, A? I vote for Old Kingdom Egypt... (<<<Isis)
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he he he Dar, well there is my personal dream and then there is reality.

I'm doing 2780 years of Olympiads.
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I know there are other calendars Arduinna.

I couldn't even begin to choose a starting date for a "new" calendar.:LOL Stonehenge being built maybe? but what part?

"What will you do once you know?"
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I couldn't even begin to choose a starting date for a "new" calendar.:LOL Stonehenge being built maybe? but what part?
i vote the otherway: lets pick a collective favorite number and declare this year to be that number. i'm think 7165 sounds good to me. for the 0 demarcation we can use BA and AA, Before and After Arbitrary.

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7165 works for me, but so does an even 10,000

Meiri I know you know there are other calendars. I just think that Americans have gotten so used to the Gregorian calendar we mistakingly assume that it's a secular calendar.
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i vote the otherway: lets pick a collective favorite number and declare this year to be that number. i'm think 7165 sounds good to me. for the 0 demarcation we can use BA and AA, Before and After Arbitrary.

8796.481!!!!

Now divide that by 27.3 for the correct number of days (lunar) and you have..something mathematical...
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... the Jewish calendar which is dated from their belief when the world began currently called 3761 BCE/CE ...


Close, but no cigar.





The year on the current Jewish calendar is 5764.

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_3761 BCE
+2003 (You have a seperate New Year
----------- which hasn't passed yet, correct?)
_5764
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_3761 BCE
+2003 (You have a seperate New Year
----------- which hasn't passed yet, correct?)
_5764

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Math was never my strong point ...



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Thanks Kama for explaining,

I wasn't saying the current year was 3761, I was saying that 3761 (in the gregorian calendar) is the year the Jewish calendar starts from.

sorry I wasn't more clear in my original post.
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No worries Amy... as long as you're so darn cute you don't need to have athing in that purty little head of yours!

You are welcome Arduinna. Glad to be of service.

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