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Most of the details of the Satan v God story we all hear, actually come from Paradise Lost by John Milton. The image of him as horned etc, comes from several of the old European nature gods. "Hell" isn't even in the Bible. It comes from an old Germanic version of the after life and was blended with the "lake of fire" in Revelation.
A lot of what we're taught isn't actually IN the Bible!
|I have been reading the ASV version, though I also have access to the King James, and am open to checking out other texts (if any) that are easily available.|
|So far, it's looking like the main places I should focus on are in the Book of Job and Revelations, is there anywhere else someone can recommend? Also, are there any spots where the text doesn't explicitly reference Satan, but it is sort of generally assumed to be him?|
|Where does it say that the snake in the garden of Eden was possessed by/working for the devil? Or is it one of those "he's was doing something bad, of course the devil was involved" sort of things? Or am I totally wrong in thinking that that is commonly accepted as fact?|
|The story I am most familiar with is that Satan was an angel who fought with/angered God and then was banished or cursed or something. Where is that part? Is it in Revelation (haven't gotten there yet, still trying to work out what's going on in Job)?|
|On that note, can anyone help me figure out what is happening in that conversation between Job and his friends? At one point I though Job was arguing for God and his friends against, but then it seemed like Job was arguing against God... I am not accustomed to the language, and it is really confusing. If anyone could point me towards a translation, I would appreciate it.|
It is my understanding that the snake in the bible was neither possessed nor working for Satan, but was the devil himself in the form of a serpent (if you believe any of this of course). However, I don't believe Genesis actually says that anywhere. This is an interpretation of the Genesis story. The most explicit references to Satan are in Revelations, where he is referred to more than once as a serpent, so it is easy to see how a talking serpent who causes humans to be driven out of the Garden of Eden would natually be assumed to be the devil, but it never really says this in Genesis. It was just a snake.
As far as the snake in Eden, I think there are 2 things to think about conerning this. First, the Catholic Church compiled and interpreted the bible, as that was the only official christian church for the first 1500+ years after Christ. So, most of the beliefs associated with the various bible verses come from the Catholic interpretation. The other thing is that there is a very clear correlation between the serpent in Genesis and the serpent in Revelation. In Revelation 12:9 it says: "And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world...." So, it pretty much says here that the serpent in the beginning of the bible is the same serpent as at the end of the bible, and the serpent was satan.
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