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#31 of 33 Old 03-15-2010, 10:46 AM - Thread Starter
 
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But if they see Isa alleihisalaam as the Son of God, they are not muslims. That is not tawheed - Monoteism, if they do...
For me, there's a difference between seeing Isa/Jesus as the Son of God vs. seeing him as God. It would all depend on whether they see themselves as Trinitarian or not. There was a view in Christianity, and it is still held by some (although granted a very small minority), that Jesus was the Son, but not God.

I kind of got side-tracked from reading it, as I've been sick the past few weeks. Hopefully, I'm almost better and can get back to reading it.

As far as I can tell, this guy considers himself culturally Muslim, but religiously Christian--so I don't even know if he'd use the term in the "Christianity Today" article of Messianic Muslim. The term seems to be a way to distance himself (or themselves) from the negative Crusader image/as well as all the Colonization stuff which still persists among many Middle Easterners when they think about Christians and Christianity. I don't think, for example, that a Muslim who converted to Christianity in Indonesia for example, would have the same issues--because I don't think there is the baggage regarding the Crusades, etc. there. (JMHO) Just as Islam has a PR image problem among many in the West, Christianity has a PR image problem among many in the Middle East.

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For me, there's a difference between seeing Isa/Jesus as the Son of God vs. seeing him as God. It would all depend on whether they see themselves as Trinitarian or not. There was a view in Christianity, and it is still held by some (although granted a very small minority), that Jesus was the Son, but not God.
Well, I am no takfiri and I believe each person is entitled to his or her spiritual path, but again and again in the Quran, we read Allah has no son and Allah has no partners. Islamically, Jesus is not Allah's son nor part of some sort of partnership (even a partnership like the mainline Christian view of the Trinity as three in one), so I don't see how someone could be a Messianic Muslim.

That said, I think I understand how it is to feel ethnically one religion but practice and believe another. I feel ethnically Catholic (although of course RC is not an ethnicity per se) but I am Muslim. I wouldn't presume to call myself a Catholic Who Really Understands Monotheism or something like that, though.
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