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Catholics don't have extra books, Protestants took books out (starting with Martin Luther). (Sorry Shami, never saw your post!) I guess it depends on what you mean by "accept." I don't think the KJV is an accurate translation, neither do most Catholics. And of course, in our view, it's missing books. The language is pretty, so we use it for Scripture memorization, but I would never use it for Bible study or prayer.
I'm not familiar with the NIB. I use the NSV-Catholic Edition.
the fact that Mormons do not believe that Jesus is God and that Christ is the center. If you don't hold these two things to be true, then, according to the Bible, you are missing MAJOR items of the Christian faith. .
Mother to R- 2/09, & C- 5/11
There are several smaller Protestant denominations (besides LDS) that do not believe Jesus is God. They do believe that he is the only begotten son of God, and our savior.
What do you call someone who believes this, if not a Christian?
|And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.|
|And under this head ye are made free, and there is no other head whereby ye can be made free. There is no other name given whereby salvation cometh; therefore, I would that ye should take upon you the name of Christ, all you that have entered into the covenant with God that ye should be obedient unto the end of your lives.|
However, the Nicene creed are the items of the faith that I will fight for. Paul says to contend for the faith. So, if someone says Jesus is not God then they are veering away from the apostles' teaching. What should I do? Paul charges us to contend for the faith.
The Son of God, even God Himself, was incarnated to be a man by the name of Jesus Christ (Jn. 1:1, Jn. 1:14).
Christ died on the cross for our sins, shedding His blood for our redemption
(1 Pet. 2:24, Eph. 1:7a).
Christ resurrected from among the dead on the third day (1 Cor. 15:4).
Christ ascended to the right hand of God to be Lord of all (Acts 1:9, Acts 2:33, Acts 2:36).
But, if a green, one inch cube wants to be called a red cube then I have to contend for the red cubes. One cannot come to me and say that Jesus is not God. I will not say, okay, no problem. No way. Paul charges us to contend for the faith.
|In the beginning was the Word,|
|and the Word was with God,|
|and the Word was God.|
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
|The three are essentially the same. I mean their essence is divine. They are all divinity. In life, nature, and essence, divinity is divinity is divinity and that never changes from eternity past to eternity future.
However, the three Persons are distinct in their function. Although, their purpose is all the same because they are oneness itself. They always were one and always will be one.
This is really seems to be the whole hang up is this one matter of defining the Trinity. This is the first time I have seen person of the Mormon faith say that Jesus is God. I have seen some say that He is a God, or that He is only the Son of God.
Even in the Mosiah book that you linked, it says that Christ and the Father are one God.
The matter of the Trinity and His One-Three nature is a core matter. If it was just a variation, why have there been decades and decades of debate over this.
I am in no way challenging you, Ancoda, and whether or not YOU personally are "christian". However, I have done a little research just since this thread and the links which were provided up thread by persons of the Mormon faith did not sound like your statements/Mosiah link. I do challenge the Mormon doctrine, not the individual people of that faith.
BTW, I am confused how to refer to the people of the Mormon faith. I can't remember where I read that Mormons are different than the Church of Latter Day Saints. I'm asking so that I will say it in a respectful way.
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