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|Originally posted by DaryLLL
... and get all het up about what they mean.
|Originally posted by Sean
Would you believe, I have never before heard of anyone being "all het up" about anything? I thought maybe it was a typo, but I looked it up, and found that 'het' really is a dialectical variant of 'heated.' But it didn't say what dialect. Is it Southern? I want to start working it into my own conversations.
|Yes,Catholics are Christian BUT Not all Christians are Catholic!|
Originally Posted by hilary122
The Catholic and Orthodox churches are the original Christian churches, all others split off from them.
|Some of the best examples I've seen of Christians are Catholic.|
Originally Posted by DaryLLL
This is incorrect. The original churches (followers of The Christ or his Way, of the type Paul wrote to) were loosely organized groups of people, who each had differing gospels (many of which were eventually left out of the final Xtian canon), met in private homes and had widely diverging beliefs.
The attempt to catholocize (universalize) the religion, or to claim orthodoxy ("straight thinking," thereby rendering others crooked) started very late in the first centruy CE but didn't really get going until the 2nd-4th centuries. And this struggle continues til this day. It was led by bishops and Roman Emperors and involved land and power grabbing.
Originally Posted by Paxetbonum
There are differing historical takes on this.
The early Christians met in houses largley to avoid persecution. There are actually secret chapels built into early Christian homes complete with alters for the celebration of the sacrifice of the mass.
|Also let's keep in mind that second century Christian are still living within the parameters of the living memory of the followers of Christ.|
|The organization of Christ's teachings is within a highly tracable short line of oral tradition, in my opinion much more reliable than historians who are out there pulling stuff out of a hat from a handful of archeological mishaps.|
|The great English literary figure, G.K. Chesterton once made the interesting point that people immedieatly assume from Cave drawings that "primitive" man was making some pitiful attempt at evolving into artistic and spiritual dimensions. Nobody ever looks at the ancient cave paintings and thinks that perhaps the painter was simply entertaining his child, or sitting around waiting for a deer to pass by and got bored. We forget that human nature is universal and much as modern historians love to complexify things, the reality of much history is simply the drama of human nature.|
|Nobody ever looks at the ancient cave paintings and thinks that perhaps the painter was simply entertaining his child, or sitting around waiting for a deer to pass by and got bored. We forget that human nature is universal and much as modern historians love to complexify things, the reality of much history is simply the drama of human nature.|