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|Britannica reports that the first historical record of Crucifixion was about 519 BC when "Darius I, king of Persia, crucified 3,000 political opponents in Babylon" (Encyclopaedia Britannica, crucifixion)
Some further detail is given in "The Eerdman's Bible Dictionary", Rev. Ed., 1975: CROSS ... Crucifixion is first attested among the Persians (cf. Herodotus, Hist. i.128.2; iii.132.2, 159.1), perhaps derived from the Assyrian impalement. It was later employed by the Greeks, especially Alexander the Great, and by the Carthaginians, from whom the Romans adapted the practice as a punishment for slaves and non-citizens, and occasionaly for citizens guilty of treason. Although in the Old Testament the corpses of blasphemers or idolaters punished by stoning might be hanged "on a tree" as further humiliation (Deut. 21:23), actual crucifixion was not introduced in Palestine until Hellenistic times. The Seleucid Antiochus IV Epiphanes crucified those Jews who would not accept hellenization (Josephus Ant. xii.240-41; cf 1 Macc. 1:44-50).
|Alexander the Great had 2,000 survivors from the siege of Tyre crucified on the shores of the Mediterranean.--source: Curtius Rufus, Hist. Alex. 4.4.17
There was one notable exception to this passage in which the victims were first killed via crucifixion rather that being hung on a tree after death. This was the case with the high priest, Alexander Janneus in which 800 Pharisees were crucified in Jerusalem in 267 BC before their wives and children. While on the cross, according to Josephus, the women and children were then slaughtered--Josephus, Antiquities 12.256.
|Originally posted by DaryLLL
Ahhh....!!! (runs screaming)
My sources would be listed on the link.
|Originally posted by SpiralWoman
I was just reading the thread about violence during the Easter service & was having thoughts about the nature of the crucifixion & sacrifice & Easter, but since I'm not practicing Cristianity I thought I'd better bring my thoughts over here to Studies. ( I hope that is the correct use of these forums, haven't been posting here in Spirit. lately)
|If I stop to read the links (or listen...) I will lose my train of thought or DS will wake or, etc. So I hope you don't mind if I get these thoughts down, & then try to go back to the links as time allows.|
|So, as a child I went to church & learned the Easter story & of course John 3:16 (I won an airplane ride as part of VBS by memorizing so many verses! WOW!) But it *never* made sense to me at all. Why would God love the world so much that he would let his only son die? Just no logic for me there. Why wouldn't he love the world so much that we were all happy & lived? Further evidence to me as a child that fathers made no sense.|
|But anyway, now that I have learned other stories of Easter & some about the concept of seasonal sacrifice, I come to think of the Christian story of the crucifixion as such a typically Christian (violent) distortion. So sad.|
|Hey, there is also a very interesting interpretation of the crucifixion by Carolyn Myss. Anybody familiar with her? She looks at the archetypal symbolism of it. That Jesus' suffering & death on the cross represents a pschological surrendering. Giving in to what is & then finding the freedom to move on. That spoke to me bcz it reminds me of the 1st step in recovery & it also harkened my mind to the "Hanged One" Major Arcana card in Tarot ( I use Motherpeace, so if you are familiar, that is the image in my head when I say that).|
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