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#1 of 8 Old 01-23-2005, 01:50 AM - Thread Starter
 
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So I'm staying at my grama and grampas house right now, visiting, and they respect my food choices for my DD, but I don't think they really understand why I choose to give my babies rice milk over cow's milk, and try ot to give her any refined white sugar. I want to have some things I can print off the net to show them the truth about a lot of the every day things that people all eat that can actually be harmful for their health (milk, meat, white flour and sugar, etc).

I'm not trying to convert them or anything, just need some solid info for them to read. My grandparents are both doing quite well for their age, and they are still quite open-minded. My grampa likes to debate, so I need info.
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Mamajaza, well, I can't help you much with meat and milk (since I eat those things) but I applaud you for trying to eliminate white flour and white sugar from your family's diet. Here is a link (not vegan) that might explain in simple terms what the alternatives are and state plainly what kinds of things are unhealthy.

http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/kitchen.html

Somewhere on that website I read that if you can take a loaf of bread and smash it between your hands to one-tenth its size, that's a good indicator that there is very little nutritional value to it (ala Wonder Bread, so light and fluffy...and deficient in nutrients).

I never heard of giving babies rice milk. Do you have to supplement it with vitamins or formula? Surely rice milk doesn't have enough fat or nutrients in it for an infant's development?

It can be hard to debate with older generations that may have gone through much harder times than we. There is quite a difference in "what can I eat that won't kill me right now so I can survive another day" versus "what can I eat that will bring me optimum health." If we have the luxury of time and money to do the latter, then by all means we should! A lot of times though when we make radical changes in our diets that our families don't understand they see it as criticism of how they eat or how they raised us.

That balance between trying not to "convert" them and keeping them from stuffing unhealthy foods in your child's mouth is hard.

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Well, my DD still breastfeeds (2 YO) and sometimes she likes to have something else. Rice milk has added calcium and b12, amung other things. I choose not to give her cows milk, because it's for baby cows, and it causes a lot of mucus buildup in the body, not to mention it's quite allergenic and pasturized. She does eat yogurt and loves cheese (which I'm trying to cut back on), which both contain probiotics, so it's easier to digest.

But I did not post to defend my food choices, just to find some back up info that others might refer to that I don't know about.

Maybe some Vegan websites?
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There's a lot of good nutritional on veg*nism at:

http://www.veganhealth.org/
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/index.htm

The info on these pages is from RDs.
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www.vegansociety.com - its a UK site but full of good nutrition stuff
and here is my fave vegan discussion site...some good info.. http://www.veganrepresent.com/
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I have a book called "Raising Vegetarian Children" by Joanne Stepaniak and Vesanto Melina, and it addresses the issue of socalization and how to help other understand your decisions respectfully. It also has health info. I think it is a good resource for my family because talks about family dynamics and eating through out a child's life. Joanne Stepaniak has two vegan books; they are "Being Vegan" and "The Vegan Source Book".
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The evils of sugar:
http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/9/ki...ar_dangers.htm
http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar..._of_sugar.htm#
http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm
(Not written by Dr. Mercola, just compiled from other nutritional writers with medical study references)

Why you should eat whole foods, from the George Mateljan Foundation (Founder of Health Valley Foods):
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq&dbid=3
The whole site is great, take a look at the other articles too. It's not a vegetarian site, but has a very positive article about vegetarianism's benefits without glossing over possible pitfalls if not well planned (in the "About Popular Diets" section, which has great in-depth pro and con looks at some common diets). Stuff from this site may go over better with the older generation than articles from veg*n sites which are out to convert.
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We are not dairy free, but we don't drink cow's milk. A little cheese here and there, but no cow's milk.

Here are some websites I've found on the subject:

http://www.newstarget.com/000956.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...21/ai_63583786

http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/cow's_milk.html

These are just articles that I had bookmarked. HTH!

Please make sure, though, that your child is getting some sort of vitamin D supplementation to avoid nutritional rickets. A lot of ricemilks are fortified with it, but some aren't. However, if you live in a warmer climate where you can go outside, it's not as big of a concern. And most kids don't get rickets, but you want to be conscientious about it. I give my dd cod liver oil which has Vitamin D. We live in northern Michigan, and sometimes she doesn't go outside for a few days. So I have to be aware of that.
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